Taranis Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) There is rumour that the 47th Mechanized Brigade (known for its Bradleys) is pulled back. @Haiduk, could you confirm this ? Quote The kill zone Ukrainians entered south of Orichiv, which comprised ATGM crews, artillery, minefields, and aviation, also stopped Kyiv’s advances as the Bradkey- and Leopard-equipped 47th Mechanised Brigades suffered losses and was pulled back. But at the same time, there is a striking difference in the number of units committed to both axes. In the latter axis, Ukrainians employed only five brigades supported by one artillery brigade, a force 50% smaller than what was sent to battle Velyka Novosilka. Source :https://rochanconsulting.substack.com/p/ukraine-conflict-monitor-12-june Edited June 17, 2023 by Taranis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintere Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Grigb said: UKR Mashovets post 17 June These photos with the map and text boxes, where are they from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, pintere said: These photos with the map and text boxes, where are they from? From me. I am making them based on content inside of the boxes. Basically I read post, I make map, mark settlements, mark actions (directions of attacks) then put text boxes with descriptions at close to location as possible. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, dan/california said: Not great for the vehicle, but perhaps far better than the alternative. Meanwhile in Combat Mission, drive it through three wooden fences and it gets immobilised. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintere Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Grigb said: From me. I am making them based on content inside of the boxes. Basically I read post, I make map, mark settlements, mark actions (directions of attacks) then put text boxes with descriptions at close to location as possible. Well that’s some top notch work! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Grigb said: From me. I am making them based on content inside of the boxes. Basically I read post, I make map, mark settlements, mark actions (directions of attacks) then put text boxes with descriptions at close to location as possible. Highly appreciated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Taranis said: There is rumour that the 47th Mechanized Brigade (known for its Bradleys) is pulled back. @Haiduk, could you confirm this ? Source :https://rochanconsulting.substack.com/p/ukraine-conflict-monitor-12-june I can imagine that they are rotating units. 47th MechBrig was in 1st line since 5th of June. I guess they are given some well deserved rest as Divisional Reserve now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Grigb said: UKR Kovalenko (colleague of Mashovets) post to get a feel of the situation at Bakhmut Reportedly Russians are increasing the density of battle orders there at the expense of different LPR troops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Taranis said: There is rumour that the 47th Mechanized Brigade (known for its Bradleys) is pulled back. @Haiduk, could you confirm this ? Source :https://rochanconsulting.substack.com/p/ukraine-conflict-monitor-12-june This again about their first attack on 7-8th of June. Now they fight very hard, but have some gains on Robotyne direction. Edited June 17, 2023 by Haiduk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesmonkey Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) French channel TF1 does a report from the Russian side of the front lines: Edited June 17, 2023 by cesmonkey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Bulletpoint said: Meanwhile in Combat Mission, drive it through three wooden fences and it gets immobilised. There is a video how Russian tank is stuck, trying to cross railway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, Haiduk said: Reportedly Russians are increasing the density of battle orders there at the expense of different LPR troops. They have to. If they don't stop AFU at Berkhievka, Soledar will be next. And AFAIR, Kleshiivka is the last vital stronghold guarding RU communication routes south of Bakhmut. The brilliance of UKR offensive plans is RU must respond by thickening the line and counter-attacking brining reserves to UKR arty party. I do not care whether AFU encircles Bakhmut or not. What is important though the more RU bring troops to stabilize Bakhmut the more will die and the less will be elsewhere to defend against main UKR strike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, DesertFox said: I can imagine that they are rotating units. 47th MechBrig was in 1st line since 5th of June. I guess they are given some well deserved rest as Divisional Reserve now. There arent any divisions in Ukraine! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) On the one of front sections 47th brigade fights against 1430th motor-rifle regiment of Territorial troops. After one of clashes UKR soldiers hve taken a prisoner - wounded mobik from Moscow. He told he from third company, the company had 120 men, but after the fight at least half were killed or wounded. One man, who watch in thermal camera was teared apart by direct hit from Bradley gun. When they no more could stand and run he was hit in the leg. He told they spent many time in tree-plants, the command continuosly regroup them. They hadn't normal houshold conditions during months, couldn's wash themselves and their uniform properly. Their commanders don't go into the fight with them. Edited June 17, 2023 by Haiduk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Russians set minefields, reacting on threatens of AFU advance - but this GMZ minelayer already out of the action 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Artkin said: There arent any divisions in Ukraine! Ah, sorry. You can't get that 90s NATO structure out of me. What´s the next level command unit above the Brigades then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) UKR troops, repelling desperate Russian counter-attacks on Makarivka could expand zone of control to the east from the village toward Novodonetske Also UKR troops after two days of fierce fighting, according to reports of Russian milbloggers could enter to Pyatykhatky village on western Zaporozhian front. There are rumors that UKR forces seized the village and attacking on neighbour Zherebyache, but it's not confirmed yet. Reportedly Russians transferred to this area units of 34th motor-rifle brigade of 49th CAA, withdrew them from Kherson oblast. Edited June 17, 2023 by Haiduk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, DesertFox said: Ah, sorry. You can't get that 90s NATO structure out of me. What´s the next level command unit above the Brigades then? Should be the high command, I don't know of anything higher level than brigades. Then again finding out Ukrainian TOE is like pulling teeth, not much if anything is public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DesertFox said: Ah, sorry. You can't get that 90s NATO structure out of me. What´s the next level command unit above the Brigades then? In peace time its were Operative Commands (OC). But now Operative-Strategical Groupings are appeared between brigade and OC levels. Edited June 17, 2023 by Haiduk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 hours ago, JonS said: I'll also note that even the US has training facilities for it's own use spread right across CONUS and across the world All good points. Do you think the immediate needs of Ukraine still fit a peace time training model? The effort is probably more concentrated compared the the number of bases and countries cited in the news conference. But maybe not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Interesting situation in Pyatykhatky... Several hours ago Russian milblogger claimed small number of UKR troops still hold several houses in western part of village (yesterday they told about one tank and one BMP with assault group), but Russian command is doing nothing to push them off there! Only artilelry works on UKR positions. He says if nothing change and UKR brimg more reinforcements, they will be forced to abandon this village Russians havn't any free reserves to deal with less platoon-size unit %) Edited June 17, 2023 by Haiduk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Video of trench firefight, followed by UKR troops gathering booty & such. One thing I've been noticing in videos is how nice it is for UKR forces to be constantly resupplied as they advance. One video showed a bounty of mortar shells. This one a grenade launcher, lots of very nice looking rifles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 As if they don't have other things on their mind: https://dnyuz.com/2023/06/17/as-floodwaters-recede-ukrainian-authorities-brace-for-possible-disease-outbreaks/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Volunteer recon battalion "Sonechko" ("Sunny") assaults the house. Some dead Russians inside at the end of video. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Rabb Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, danfrodo said: Video of trench firefight, followed by UKR troops gathering booty & such. One thing I've been noticing in videos is how nice it is for UKR forces to be constantly resupplied as they advance. One video showed a bounty of mortar shells. This one a grenade launcher, lots of very nice looking rifles. Was just going to post this. Those guys serving in the 3rd separate assault brigade are definitely not camera-shy. Lots of videos coming from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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