John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Haiduk, Here's one Ka-52 which won't be bothering anyone again. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Zveroboy1 said: TL;DR :Yes that's what I meant. They can't realistically take Kyiv and I don't believe in the Grozny urban assault scenario at all but could perhaps force the Ukrainian government to the negotiation table by just shelling it. Russia is going to do what Russia has always done; Fire and Rubble. And, the majority of Russian people are going to do what the Russian people have always done, nothing! In 1917, the Intelligencia overthrew the Tsar. They were immediately deposed by the Bolsheviks, and mostly executed. That revolution did nothing more than exchange the Party Chairman for the Tsar. The rural farmers were still, and basically still are by mind set, Serfs. For them, for thousands of years, there has been no differences in rulers until Nicholas II removed the serfs from being “bonded to the land,” about 150 years ago. One doesn’t change a 1,000 year-old mind set in 100 years, especially when nothing has really changed for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Those are simply stills from video linked immediately above John. Please keep-up and stop spamming redundant information. Edited March 12, 2022 by akd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZ NZ Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Interesting Victoria Nuland under secretary of state at senate hearing confirmed bio weapons labs are real in Ukraine US undersecretary of state acknowledges there are biological warfare labs in Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/10/nula-m10.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html This is after repeated denials by the Biden administration that there are no bio weapons labs Spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Zhao Lijian, said, “In particular, the US, as the party that knows these laboratories the best, should publish relevant specific details as soon as possible, including the types of pathogens stored and the research conducted,” in order to ensure the “health and safety of people in Ukraine, the surrounding areas and even around the world.” Details about the biological weapons facilities in Ukraine were reported by the Russian Defense Ministry on March 6 when Major General Igor Konashenkov alleged that pathogens for deadly diseases for biological warfare were being created in Ukrainian labs that were funded by the Pentagon. Konashenkov told the Russian news agency TASS, “Obviously, with the start of a special military operation, the Pentagon had serious concerns about disclosing the conduct of secret biological experiments on the territory of Ukraine.” A damage-control Twitter thread posted by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki late Wednesday afternoon did not reference Nuland’s congressional testimony but called the Russian and Chinese reports “preposterous” and a “disinformation operation.” Psaki went on to state that the US “is in full compliance with its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and the Biological Weapons Convention and does not develop or possess such weapons anywhere.” You were right John Kettler Edited March 12, 2022 by GAZ NZ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 akd, Really wish you'd be more temperate with your words and not accuse me of spamming. I simply missed seeing that the item you referenced was a video and only retained the shootdown side of it. Spamming is accusing me of doing something maliciously and knowingly with a specific intent to disrupt. Not guilty! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GAZ NZ said: Interesting Victoria Nuland under secretary of state at senate hearing confirmed bio weapons labs are real in Ukraine are real and have very deadly pathogens No she didn’t, and spreading Russian and Chinese disinformation here is not welcome. Edited March 12, 2022 by akd 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, John Kettler said: akd, Really wish you'd be more temperate with your words and not accuse me of spamming. I simply missed seeing that the item you referenced was a video and only retained the shootdown side of it. Spamming is accusing me of doing something maliciously and knowingly with a specific intent to disrupt. Not guilty! Regards, John Kettler Your carelessness and inattentiveness to other’s posts, along with an apparent desire to post as much as possible as quickly as possible, is leading to spamming the forum with comments and observations that have already been covered in previous posts by others. We are not desperate for your insights, so slow down a bit. Edited March 12, 2022 by akd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZ NZ Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, akd said: No she didn’t, and spreading Russian disinformation here is not welcome. I'm quoting from NY times It's your own news paper if you are US based 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Private Pavel is in a great deal of trouble, a body cast, or the the ever popular both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 GAZ NZ, Hope you succeed where I tried mightily and not only failed utterly but almost got a vacation out of it, too. Perhaps they'll pay attention to you! Fully expect this topic is going to wind up a huge deal before too long. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, GAZ NZ said: I'm quoting from NY times It's your own news paper if you are US based You clearly didn’t even look at NYT article. Please stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 So conspiracy mongering folks, LOTS of places have bio labs that study deadly pathogens. Where the F do you think vaccines come from? Do you think all the world's disease fighters just sit around and wait to be attacked by the next mutation of something. WTF does this have to do w anything? Please just stop. No one gives a F about this. It's not any excuse for this invasion and you are just feeding propaganda. Did any of you see the post from a couple days ago about idiots chasing shiny objects? Look in mirror. I guess I have a vacation coming but someone has to say STFU. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE W YOUR IRRELEVANT BS. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keas66 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, GAZ NZ said: Interesting Victoria Nuland under secretary of state at senate hearing confirmed bio weapons labs are real in Ukraine are real and have very deadly pathogens US undersecretary of state acknowledges there are biological warfare labs in Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/10/nula-m10.html This is after repeated denials by the Biden administration that there are no bio weapons labs Spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Zhao Lijian, said, “In particular, the US, as the party that knows these laboratories the best, should publish relevant specific details as soon as possible, including the types of pathogens stored and the research conducted,” in order to ensure the “health and safety of people in Ukraine, the surrounding areas and even around the world.” Details about the biological weapons facilities in Ukraine were reported by the Russian Defense Ministry on March 6 when Major General Igor Konashenkov alleged that pathogens for deadly diseases for biological warfare were being created in Ukrainian labs that were funded by the Pentagon. Konashenkov told the Russian news agency TASS, “Obviously, with the start of a special military operation, the Pentagon had serious concerns about disclosing the conduct of secret biological experiments on the territory of Ukraine.” A damage-control Twitter thread posted by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki late Wednesday afternoon did not reference Nuland’s congressional testimony but called the Russian and Chinese reports “preposterous” and a “disinformation operation.” Psaki went on to state that the US “is in full compliance with its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and the Biological Weapons Convention and does not develop or possess such weapons anywhere.” You were right John Kettler Seriously .... think maybe a little bit before you post . There is clear evidence out there freely available that these "Bioweapon" labs are actually remnants form the Soviet era which the Americans are helping the Ukrainians to clean up . https://theparadise.ng/fact-check-the-russian-army-is-destroying-u-s-controlled-biolabs/ "While biolabs exist in Ukraine, it is misleading at best to call them “U.S. biolabs.” Laboratories that store and study dangerous pathogens are present throughout the former Soviet bloc, with many dating back to the Cold War. The U.S. did not build any of these facilities. That said, in 2005, the U.S. Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine entered into a mutual agreement to work together to safeguard the labs as part of a broader effort to prevent bioterrorism. The installations are run by the Ukrainian government, with some funding for upgrades and repairs provided by the U.S." As a fellow New Zealander - although one out of the country for a very long while now - please try to show our education system in a little more of a positive light . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, GAZ NZ said: I'm quoting from NY times It's your own news paper if you are US based You mean this? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html?searchResultPosition=1 I suggest you read it very carefully to see who actually said what. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraze Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GAZ NZ said: I'm quoting from NY times It's your own news paper if you are US based Are we going on about this **** again? Do you even know how medical research works? Does your country have medicine or just pours snake oil over open wounds? That's before you actually read an article you posted yourself. Edited March 12, 2022 by kraze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, akd said: Your carelessness and inattentiveness to other’s posts, along with an apparent desire to post as much as possible as quickly as possible, is leading to spamming the forum with comments and observations that have already been covered in previous posts by others. We are not desperate for your insights, so slow down a bit. akd, Until a few minutes ago, I was in catchup mode since 4 AM local, where it's now 12:18 PM. During that catchup drill, have replied to quite a few posts, including yours in which I've expressed appreciation for the info you supplied. I do find it fascinating that you have no compunction about complaining how I'm behind and duplicative on the one hand and posting in haste on the other! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Haiduk Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Group of infantry with AT-4C Fagot and sniper rifles (one with thermal sight) shelled at the target. Probably Kyiv or Chernihiv oblast Edited March 12, 2022 by Haiduk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraze Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, BeondTheGrave said: Random City People's Republic™ Original work do not steal or we smash food with our tractors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraze Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Group of infantry with AT-4C Fagot and sniper rifles (one with thermal sight) shelled at the target. Probably Kyiv or Chernihiv oblast Probably ambushing another convoy and then sniper-picking dismounts - nice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbindc Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, John Kettler said: GAZ NZ, Hope you succeed where I tried mightily and not only failed utterly but almost got a vacation out of it, too. Perhaps they'll pay attention to you! Fully expect this topic is going to wind up a huge deal before too long. Regards, John Kettler This is sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keas66 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, billbindc said: This is sad. The blind leading the blind in fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZ NZ Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Nato expansion Bit of truth on both sides Watch "Is Putin Right About Nato's Eastward Expansion? - TLDR News" on YouTube https://youtu.be/ydM9bt42bpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 What we have here is a useful cross check of the purported FSB insider's claims ref the hazards of sending Putin intel that he didn't want to see. Also, The Times used "defenestration" incorrectly, for it's clear that what was being talked about were arrests of FSB officers on trumped up charges when the real issue was an alleged intelligence failure. I say alleged because FSB did try to warn him, if we take the purported insider at his word. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Group of infantry with AT-4C Fagot and sniper rifles (one with thermal sight) shelled at the target. Probably Kyiv or Chernihiv oblast A TWS is a great way to find shooters and muzzle flashes in a cold environment. Ideal operating conditions with excellent thermal contrast. Wonder what rated the AT-4C? Regards, John Kettler Edited March 12, 2022 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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