Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'm not stirring anybody's pot.....The Ukraine appears to have ambitions to recover these territories and to join the EU. They can't do the latter while they're still squabbling over the former, it's against the rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 looking to get the thread closed or you want to see more vids? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikalugin Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Staying on topic would be nice, but political discussion already bloomed in the other thread. Edited July 10, 2019 by ikalugin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Let's not go there again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 26th of June during counter-battery fire ajustment, Ukrainian UAV spotted Russian EW stations Torn-MDM and R-330Zh Zhytel, covered under mask net in Mayorove village (old name Krasnyi Oktiabr) approx in 10 km form frontline and Ukrainain position in Hranitne. From the range of 14 km, the single 2S1 has opened fire, having targeting via UAV and crowdfund-developed fire control system "Kropyva". The second shell hit deirectly. SP-howitzer fired 11 shells, most of them hit target area. Torn-MDM was destroyed, R-330 probably damaged. These stations usually work as pair. Torn makes express-analysys of frequencies and signal emmition sourses direction finding on the range 30-70 km and R-330Zh after it makes final type of sygnal determaination and supress it on the range 20-25 km Torn can be identified by small square superstructure on the van - it is clear seen even under camo net. Edited July 13, 2019 by Haiduk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:53 AM, Sgt.Squarehead said: Let's not go there again. Then quit bringing up crap that has nothing to do with the topic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 hours ago, LukeFF said: Then quit bringing up crap that has nothing to do with the topic. For once I can agree with you there.....Sometimes I'm my own worst enemy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: For once I can agree with you there.....Sometimes I'm my own worst enemy. Rotflmao. Yeah that is pretty much true of all of us. Gawd the number of times I’ll wished I’d listened to my wife to shut my trap. At the time I always excuse it as her Japanese wish to avoid conflict and afterwards realized, no she was just right. Sigh with old age is SUPPOSED to come wisdom. Maybe I am the exception to the rule. Edited July 22, 2019 by sburke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikalugin Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I wish I was married 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Summer of 2019. Possybly Svitlodarsk bulge area. Intensive fire for suppressing of enemy position - several days ago Ukrainian position was shelled from there and one soldier was killed. This is retaliation from 54th brigade and it's UAV reckon group K-2. 273 meters to the enemy. Interestling detail - 120 mm mortar deployed directly on "zero line", no in the rear as usual. The minimal range of firing is 482 m, but the gunner put the shell in the barrel without any additional charges, which attach to the tail. Thus, only inner igniter charge uses, in order to reduce minimal firing range. Such firing mode isn't provided by mortar's field manual - the smallest 1st charge provides igniter charge+one additional charge. Leftward from operator, HMG shots. Edited October 16, 2019 by Haiduk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxel Torrente Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) I wonder whether the Russians and the Ukrainians were, or will be, playing football on no-man's land during the Christmas and New Years Eve, like was being done during the world wars? Maybe they even sing songs to each other, send each other alcohol and cigarettes on a stream of water or shout things like "Hey Ivan, how's your mother nowadays? Does she still suck your dick on Fridays?" or similar things. Any videos showing things like that or is it only videos of shooting and bombing in this thread? Edited October 19, 2019 by Anxel Torrente 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Anxel Torrente said: I wonder whether the Russians and the Ukrainians were, or will be, playing football on no-man's land There were two such episodes. Both led to Ukraininan troopers too much relaxed and were massacred in next weeks after this unappropriate fraternization. Edited October 19, 2019 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Dont know if already posted, but here some decently clear video from operator of BTR-4 shooting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 T-80bv in training (comes in middle of video) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Oleg said: Dont know if already posted, but here some decently clear video from operator of BTR-4 shooting Yes, shooting at civilian buildings from which no fire has been received.....Very classy, very classy indeed. Waffen SS ROE again was it? Edited November 26, 2019 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Well... that is the sort of SOP that CM2 teaches/trains us to do regardless of what nationality we are playing. We ignore any thoughts that CM2 buildings have civilians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Russian forces shooting AGS from the window of civ apartment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 @Oleg, you're new to the forum. Stop making the forum another venue of Ukrainian propaganda. Or at least post a funny side of it Like an OFFICIAL (sic!) statement of Ukrainian command that one of the recent shelling of civilian zone by Ukrainian forces duly noted by OSCE mission didn't happen IRL. Ukrainian command claims a group of saboteurs from the other side infiltrated separation zone hauling with them heavy artillery ordinance (!), buried them underground (!) and then simulated shelling by exploding them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Oleg said: Russian forces shooting AGS from the window of civ apartment. @Oleg, you're kind of using to your advantage the fact that most of the people here don't speak Russian. The video is an interview with locals saying that UKR forces are shelling apartment houses. And here are UKR forces positions inside residential disticts. Edited November 26, 2019 by IMHO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Yes, shooting at civilian buildings from which no fire has been received.....Very classy, very classy indeed. Waffen SS ROE again was it? Hmmm how do you know "no fire" was received from there? Were you there? Your next statement seems to be trolling... I think Oleg's follow up video was aimed at this inflammatory response... FYI I was upset watching that video of people's homes being shot up but then if Russia had not invaded Ukraine that would not be happening. War destroys people's lives and the people who wage it are mere pawns of those that decide what is best in their national interest... The good thing about this thread (if there is anything good about watching people throw lead at one another) is that it reminds people the consequences of war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Holien said: I think Oleg's follow up video was aimed at this inflammatory response... Yeah, let's wrap it up. @Oleg's post seems to be designed to flare up the argument that turned somewhat stale by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Erwin said: Well... that is the sort of SOP that CM2 teaches/trains us to do regardless of what nationality we are playing. We ignore any thoughts that CM2 buildings have civilians. CM is very flexible in this regard. Any building (or group of buildings) can be made a preserve objective. This is probably most often done with Mosques in CMSF2 but can be done with any building in any CM title. So all a scenario designer has to do is say in the briefing that the ROE does not allow for the destruction of the apartment buildings on the north edge of town and assign them as preserve objectives. The player can ignore the ROE and shoot them up but will suffer the loss of VP points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 That's is a good feature of CM2 and I often wish that designers wold give larger penalties for damaging buildings, (and also for friendly losses as well as ammo depletion) - especially for western forces which seem to suffer more political fall-out for wanton destruction than the Russians (or so we are told). Nonetheless, we as gamers will happily destroy a "preserve" objective and take the win thru the resulting easier destruction of the enemy especially if that helps save friendly lives. Often, the destruction of preserve objectives has negligible if any negative effect on players' scores is what I am pointing out. And that means that if this were a RL training tool it could teach the "wrong" lessons - unless you had a trainer standing over you hitting you with a stick (or some other penalty) every time you damaged a preserve objective (simulating hurting civilians). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Yes, shooting at civilian buildings from which no fire has been received.....Very classy, very classy indeed. Waffen SS ROE again was it? Vuhlehirsk 2015. Debaltsevo operation "Use HE... If something, raze fu...k to ground this building". Separatists tankers shot out residual building, from which no fire have been received. Very classy. The same episode, but from other point. Russian journalist claims "fighters of Right Sector and Azov batatlion are occupied floors of this building". Well, I also have heard about Polish snipers in that building %) Vuhlehirsk defended only one army company, with suport of three tanks, MT-12 platoon and 9P149 platoon. Their last stand was in building of old scholl with tough walls. So, what RS/Azov fighters shot out rushist's tank I don't know. Looks like Russian propaganda needed episod of "action", when the battle already was over, so separ's tank worked for staged video and shot out the building. Edited November 26, 2019 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 3:09 PM, Oleg said: T-80bv in training (comes in middle of video) Only combat video here, please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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