weapon2010 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Just wondering if any WW2 Veterans have played or seen this game?did they or do they find it offensive that we would enjoy a game about their real war experiences and their sacrifices? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I showed my Dad the CMBO demo when we had it back then just as part of highlighting the state of PC development - not war gaming. He was not too impressed. A veteran of the 86th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, he was much more interested in MS Flight Simulator and became very good. Put the New York sectional on his drafting board and spent more time planning than "flying". Never crashed. Not once. Kevin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift8 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 4 hours ago, weapon2010 said: Just wondering if any WW2 Veterans have played or seen this game?did they or do they find it offensive that we would enjoy a game about their real war experiences and their sacrifices? I dont really think that it would matter if it would, and it is unlikely they would all have the same opinion anyhow. My experience however, has been favorable. There is a ww2 pilot Ive had the pleasuring of flying with in aces high who flew wildcats in ww2 and actually engaged japanese fighters. He flys alot of F4F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbasid111 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 You do realize that the average age of WW2 vets in the US is about 92 or 93. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yeah to be honest here how would you know any vets online actually flew against the Japanese for example? I find the odds of a ww2 combat veteran playing online flight sims pvp highly unlikely and talking about his experiences in combat against zeroes on chat even less likely. Hey you never know though. If they were younger I could see it. Theres several Nam vets floating around here for example. But WW2? Eh... i know a German guy who flew with Goering after Manfred got shot down and he loves Rise of Flight. He flies the DVII a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony P. Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Wait, a German WW1 pilot? Last time I checked it's been a few years since the last WW1 veteran of any nation died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift8 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sublime said: Yeah to be honest here how would you know any vets online actually flew against the Japanese for example? I find the odds of a ww2 combat veteran playing online flight sims pvp highly unlikely and talking about his experiences in combat against zeroes on chat even less likely. Hey you never know though. If they were younger I could see it. Theres several Nam vets floating around here for example. But WW2? Eh... i know a German guy who flew with Goering after Manfred got shot down and he loves Rise of Flight. He flies the DVII a lot. It is unlikely, and he is the only one I ever knew. He is a well known member of the community. You may find it hard to believe, but it is the case. He has been around for years. He plays less often now but Aces High has been around for 16 years. He flew more back in the day, but still gets on sometimes. Edited May 22, 2016 by shift8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 WWII vets are gettin' kind'a like WWI vets these days. Their numbers are thinning rapidly. I recall one poignant pict on the BBC website of a Veterans Day parade in Britain, only one WWII vet was left to march down the street. My own WWII vet dad got to see CMSF. He was too mesmerized by the fancy 3-D computer stuff to have an opinion on actual gameplay. I believe even your average Vietnam vet would be around 68-70 by now, yes? The Tet offensive recently saw its 48th anniversary. Time marches on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis50 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I turned 66 this month and I served in nam 70-71 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbasid111 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The last WW2 vet in my family passed away this past Jan. at the age of 97. My uncle went ashore on D-Day as an infantryman and stayed in the ETO until the end of the war. It is estimated that there are only one million vets left out of the sixteen million who served. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 There was once maybe 10-12 years ago a guy on the forum who said he was a WWII vet but some one questioned his authenticity because he got a fact wrong and he said that's why he never goes on forums because there's always some one who doesn't believe him and he was never heard from again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Sequoia said: There was once maybe 10-12 years ago a guy on the forum who said he was a WWII vet but some one questioned his authenticity because he got a fact wrong and he said that's why he never goes on forums because there's always some one who doesn't believe him and he was never heard from again. I don't believe you. This is emphatically not a veiled attempt to convince Sequoia to vanish from the forum. It just seemed like a necessary recursion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I recall back in the day when CMBO 1.0 came out- 2001?- there was a former WW2 Sherman tanker who participated in the forum. I wish I could find his posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift8 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Childress said: I recall back in the day when CMBO 1.0 came out- 2001?- there was a former WW2 Sherman tanker who participated in the forum. I wish I could find his posts. Good lord I want to see those! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 It's sad there are not many at all left 2016.... early or late 90's for most... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 3 hours ago, user1000 said: It's sad there are not many at all left 2016.... Yeah. Up until about 15 years ago, I used to run into WW II vets on an almost regular basis. Some of them bequeathed me some stories. I regret that I never did any formal interviews of them. That would have been a minor treasure trove now. I had three cousins in the air force who flew combat and I deeply regret not getting their stories. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I showed my Dad CMBN when he was still with us. He liked the idea, but never showed any real interest in the game. He fought with the South Africans in Italy, but passed away before CMFI came out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I can't remember showing my Dad CMBO, which is odd. He used to play PanzerBlitz with me when I was a child. I remember showing him the old Campaign Series Rising Sun title. I know he played around at least a little with close combat on an old computer of mine I gave him shortly before he died. Now that I typed this out, my memory has been jogged and I'm pretty sure I showed it to him along with a bunch of other games on the computer I gave him. I think he sort of just picked up close combat from there rather than CM. Never asked him why. If I had to guess, simpler game. He didn't take offense to portrayal of his generation in war games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The last WW2 veteran I knew was my wife's uncle who passed away last year. He served with the Canadian Army, landed in Normandy on "D+9" as he said and served until VE day. As far as I know, he never owned a computer or played a computer game. I tried to get him to discuss his experiences, but like a lot of veterans, he did not talk about the war. My grandfather's brother served in the RAF. He was a navigator in a bomber that got shot down over Burma. He spent weeks walking through the jungle back to Allied lines. Even though I knew him well, I only found out the story from his daughter after he died and even she only knew the basic story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On 27. Mai 2016 at 3:09 PM, Sgt Joch said: The last WW2 veteran I knew was my wife's uncle who passed away last year. He served with the Canadian Army, landed in Normandy on "D+9" as he said and served until VE day. As far as I know, he never owned a computer or played a computer game. I tried to get him to discuss his experiences, but like a lot of veterans, he did not talk about the war. My grandfather's brother served in the RAF. He was a navigator in a bomber that got shot down over Burma. He spent weeks walking through the jungle back to Allied lines. Even though I knew him well, I only found out the story from his daughter after he died and even she only knew the basic story. About the same here: whenever I asked my Dad (passed away 5 years ago) how he lost his right arm, the answer was: Somewhere on the Rollbahn in Russia, during a mortar strike.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) My late father in WW2: 1- He served in N Africa and Sicily in the field artillery. As He was part of the Kasserine debacle. 2- His most vivid recollection was when his mate, standing next to him, had his head blown clean off by an- allegedly- 88 shell. 3- The army was farcically organized, a theme of amusing dinner party conversations when I was a boy. For example, he was compelled to stand in line several times for the same inoculation. 4- He didn't care much for WW2 movies. He insisted that the Germans were NOT stupid as often depicted in post-war flics. They were a formidable foe. 5- He and I watched the film Patton together in the 70s. He had witnessed several of that general's speeches and complained that George C. Scott sounded nothing like him. Patton had a high squeaky voice and cursed a blue streak, with a liberal sprinkling of 'F-words' thrown in, shocking my small town, southern-raised Dad. RIP Edited May 30, 2016 by Childress 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbasid111 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 To most GIs everything piece of artillery was an '88' and every tank was a Tiger. I know my uncle who was at St. Lo said his outfit was hit hard by 88s when it was obvious he was talking about indirect fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You are probably right but to be certain check out the Clay Pigeon's of St. Lo if you have not already. They writer talks about a SP 88 in the later part of the book - Chapter 18. They knocked it out with with a single well adjusted 105 mm. Kevin https://books.google.com/books?id=3uRTLZ-kOiwC&pg=PA242&lpg=PA242&dq=the+clay+pigeons+of+st+lo+and+88s&source=bl&ots=KyHews7wqJ&sig=fIIpPKwZJFourmuaKvKScyHJvDo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0lZq25oLNAhXLQiYKHdVAALQQ6AEIMTAD#v=onepage&q=the%20clay%20pigeons%20of%20st%20lo%20and%2088s&f=false 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) On 5/23/2016 at 7:10 PM, Childress said: I recall back in the day when CMBO 1.0 came out- 2001?- there was a former WW2 Sherman tanker who participated in the forum. I wish I could find his posts. BO was released late May early June 00. There is a poster whose been in Shermans in service but post Ww2 in the Canadian military. I dont remember the poster you.re referring to childress and i was around here then. Doesnt mean youre wrong i just dont remember any ww2 vets. Edited May 31, 2016 by Sublime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 You may be right, Sublime. He contributed some trenchant comments vis-vis realism but some don't recall his nick. But how old were you back in 2000? 17? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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