George MC

As is your incessant banging on about this. I mean it's great to have an opinion and espouse it, but the great lengths you are taking this to is becoming - odd. And TBH I've had enough of this rather cringeworthy show of childish behaviour. So I'm out.

As is your incessant banging on about this. I mean it's great to have an opinion and espouse it, but the great lengths you are taking this to is becoming - odd. And TBH I've had enough of this rather cringeworthy show of childish behaviour. So I'm out.

He! I've played it several times and just started another run on it. I know it's not for everyone but I love playing this type of stuff - why I make em
 
My 'trick' is not to attack with everything at once. I tend to work with an advance group and have the other stuff in back up. So at any one time I'm attacking with a company + group supported by maybe a platoon in overwatch, the others keep tucked away out of sight. Once this unit has it's objectives, they 'go firm' and you pass through the next group and so on. I also tend not split squads at this level of play so I don't get to drawn into micromanagement. Given you have lot's of stuff losing one tank or one MG team due to 'sloppy management' is less of a blow at this scale.
 
Still the map can be used and cut up as folks desire for smaller engagements. If they do so I just ask I get credit for the orginal map design
 
Anyways thanks for the positive feedback and support

As is your incessant banging on about this. I mean it's great to have an opinion and espouse it, but the great lengths you are taking this to is becoming - odd. And TBH I've had enough of this rather cringeworthy show of childish behaviour. So I'm out.

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Its also hard when every critic is met with terms like "overblown", "irrational" or "ridiculous exaggeration"...

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

This scenario covers the following action (as recorded by von Plato in his history of 5th Panzer Division) in the closing stages of Operation Bagration. Smorgon is on the main rail line from Minsk to Vilnius – hence it was strategically vital for allowing Germans to bring units into action. They were low on fuel/transport so railways were a vital component for keeping armies supplied and flow of reinforcements/moving units etc. The Soviets had just cut the rail line. 5th Panzer Division under the command of Major -General Karl Decker (His General Staff Officer or Ia was Lieutenant-Colonel Anton Detlev von Plato) or at least what was left of it, was concentrated into one group for a last gasp attack.
 
"Early on 6 July an armored group with I./ Pz. Gren. Rgt.14 and I./ Pz. Gren. Rgt. 13 and Pz.Rgt. 31 is formed under Colonel Lippert. The II./ Pz. Gren. Rgt.14 takes Sakowice and II. / Pz. 13 the section west of it on the road of advance. The armored group moves out at about 11.00 am. After short, heavy fighting the enemy is thrown north of Sakowice. The armored group thrusts above Krasne Osinowka until just before the railway, southwest of Smorgon, nearly 10 km deep. Then our power is exhausted at Osinowka - Bialkoszcyna as the enemy throws new armored units against us." 
 
The scenario covers later part of this attack i.e. the armoured kampfgruppe's thrust to Osinowka - Bialkoszcyna. By this stage in the fighting 5th Panzer had been in continuous heavy combat since 27th June, moving to and fro across a huge area. By the evening of the 5th July it had endured several cycles of full on combat. By the 6th July and was starting to show signs of strain and this final throw of the diec was to be it's last major offensive and combat cycle during Operation Bagration. Many of the panzergrenadier companies were down to 35 men. Their armoured strength had gone from 70 Panzer V Panthers and 55 Panzer IVs to a recorded strength on the evening of the 5th July of 25 Panthers and 25 PzIVs.
 
From a CM perspective such heavy casualties mean it's possible to simulate this without having hundreds of units on the map. Correspondingly the map is huge - 3km wide x 4.5km deep. The map is based on a contemporary Russian map of the area. What it highlights is this area was at least fairly suitable for a large scale armoured attack. It's one of the few areas in this part that's not bog and wood infested - being mostly rolling terrain with patches of wood but generally fairly open sight lines. The down side is several rivers/streams run across the terrain which mean the Germans had to attack across these natural barriers. The attack did make headway but the Soviets managed to very quickly push armoured units (from the 3rd Guards Cavalry Corps and 3rd Guards Mech Corps under General Oslikovski) into the area. These are the attacks that halt the tired and run down 5th Panzer.
 
Playing the Scenario This scenario was originally designed to be played first and foremost from the perspective of the German side against the Soviet AI. It is playable head to head (H2H) but has not been playtested for balance in this regard. I suspect it’ll be a tough one for the German player – so if playing H2H let the less experienced player take the Soviets.   When playing this do so with the mindset you are playing a min campaign. Due to the size of map and tactical challenges you’ll need to tackle this as a linked series of actions rather than one decisive action.  
It's now available for download at the following links:
 
Scenario Depot III
 
The Repository
 
The image below is taken looking north. It shows the first water barrier a mainly marshy/boggy stream. Behind is a low ridge and rolling terrain. The village ahead is KARAVAI
 

 
Another shot - this time looking east across the German line of attack.
 

 
This is further north. It's the small hamlet of LIAUKI about 700m south of OSINOWKA.
 

 
Another full scale view of the map. Again looking north.
 

 
From the Soviet side of the hill. T34s from 3rd Guards Mech Corps counterattack the German armoured spearhead. This view is looking south towards LIAUKI/CHADAKI
 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

Wiggum15 - are you at all capable of rationale and mature debate? From your previous posts it does appear as if you are going out your way to appear both irrational and immature. TBH your attitude and the way you interact with other posters comes across as hostile and combative. You wonder why other posters then react in the way you do? 

It's out
 
Grab it HERE
 
Please be sure to read the 'READ ME'. Oh I'd also strongly suggest downloading and using Kieme's building mods plus Aris's excellent modded CMRT armour.
 
Enjoy

Hi WOKI
Excellent work mate Thanks for doing this. I'll need to work out how to tag scenarios for mods!

A SPW full of tense looking panzergrenadiers.
 

 
SPW moving out of cover. The Soviet lines are about 1000m ahead. The plumes of smoke are from some KO'd Soviet trucks.
 

 
The same unit of panzergrenadiers now in action supported by several Panthers. This is them clearing out a small farm - which dominates a key crossing point over a water feature.
 

 
View from the left hand SPW in the above picture.
 
 

A SPW full of tense looking panzergrenadiers.
 

 
SPW moving out of cover. The Soviet lines are about 1000m ahead. The plumes of smoke are from some KO'd Soviet trucks.
 

 
The same unit of panzergrenadiers now in action supported by several Panthers. This is them clearing out a small farm - which dominates a key crossing point over a water feature.
 

 
View from the left hand SPW in the above picture.
 
 

A SPW full of tense looking panzergrenadiers.
 

 
SPW moving out of cover. The Soviet lines are about 1000m ahead. The plumes of smoke are from some KO'd Soviet trucks.
 

 
The same unit of panzergrenadiers now in action supported by several Panthers. This is them clearing out a small farm - which dominates a key crossing point over a water feature.
 

 
View from the left hand SPW in the above picture.
 
 

Another series of precision rounds impact harmlessly. Whew!
 

 

 
A BMP-3 watching the route into the village gets a stern laser warning.
 

 

 
My lucky T-90 on the hill engages another Abrams. Its reactive armour saves the day, and the T-90 scores a partial penetration on the Abrams with a few seconds remaining the turn. Not too shabby for a green Russian tank.
 

 

 
I move my two BMP-3s from my right flank position to cover the advanced on my centre. I'll be glad if they can bag a Bradley. They can easily withdraw downslope behind cover if needed.
 

 
I also relocated my lone T-90 and Khrizantema to cover my centre. I don't have much on my right flank, but I at least will have plenty of warning if anything comes that way.
 

 
Brave RPGman Pelevin inches closer to friendly lines.
 

 
I also call off a helicopter strike as I don't think it would have caught anything. I redirect all my air support onto the American advance towards my centre.

Well I understand what Umlaut was saying. and like many others stated of usually designing things for yourself.  I created "Clash of Titans Redux2" because I wanted to pit the Tiger II, vs the JSII.  The map got out of hand and just got bigger... details got bigger.. and when I got done and now correctly tested, thought others may want to see many tanks explode... in a challenging way.  "Brandenburger Surprise" was my next Scenario, after marathoning the Dirty Dozen, Kelly's Hero's and Force 10 from Navarone... I thought about a couple previous books I had read about the German Special Forces... Brandenburger's.  Also in reading the forums I saw many wanting small unit actions.
 
I really do enjoy making Scenarios, even though for the most part they are Hypothetical.. still very fun and will continue to do them.  I have two in the works as of now.. one is being play tested for Head to Head only,
 
Feedback is important for me only on how I can do a scenario better, or if it was challenging and fun for the player or players.  If I get feed back that's great, if not, oh well, I will still make them because I like doing it.

Hark! Is that an umarked black helicopter I doth heareth!

I am currently playing Bridgehead at Kahralyk as well, but as US and vs. the AI. I am 108 turns in and i dont think the Russians have much left...
 
I would like to go into detail on how the scenario played out, but i dont want to put any spoilers ITT. I liked it though, and i kinda knew you designed it . It looks and plays a lot like Forging Steel.

Here's an image of what a partial penetration may look,like!
 
It's captioned as being a 17pdr AP shell that hit a Tiger's front glacis.