Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Im looking for "World War II Ballistics: Armor and Gunnery" by Lorrin Rexford Bird and Robert D. Livingston, published by Overmatch Press. I'd really like to get my hands on a copy, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it. I know this isn't the section of the forums to post this, but it seems like this is the place that most of the old forum go'ers and admins gravitate. Could any of yall help me on this subject? (I've done searches on this subject, but I believe one of the authors died). [ February 05, 2008, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Sgt.Rock of Easy Company ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Have you checked Barnes and Noble and Amazon? They often have out of print or obscure books availible through their partner dealers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Try Abe Books - it's where I go for rare, out of print books. http://www.abebooks.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 No go on all of it. This book is like a needle in a haystack 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 hehe, it cant be harder than getting a copy of "Der Chemische Krieg". and i got one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Originally posted by Sgt.Rock of Easy Company: Could any of yall help me on this subject? (I've done searches on this subject, but I believe one of the authors died). One of the authors used to post on this forum as rexford, but he hasn't posted since 2004. Hopefully he is not the dead one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xellos Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/1645767/Bird-Lorrin-World-War-Two-Ballistics-Armor-And-Gunnery-Livre.html maybe this link will help you:) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sgt.Rock of Easy Company: Could any of yall help me on this subject? (I've done searches on this subject, but I believe one of the authors died). One of the authors used to post on this forum as rexford, but he hasn't posted since 2004. Hopefully he is not the dead one. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Originally posted by xellos: http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/1645767/Bird-Lorrin-World-War-Two-Ballistics-Armor-And-Gunnery-Livre.html maybe this link will help you:) Hah, thank you very much, though it looks to be in Euro's and I'm not sure what language it is yet Edit- I should chime in as well, 1.06 is pretty damn fun :mad: :mad: :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 ack, by the looks of it, and from what I can make out through translators, is that the book is no longer on sale at that website. ugh, the journey continues... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 this book is almost famous and there should be some old thread's about in the old old CMBO forum archives. May I suggest for more respsonse to your thread and enquiry here you might put the author and/or book title in the heading of the thread. Many folks on this forum should have a copy of that book I tried my favourite source and there were no copies available: Alibris Used Books web page the book is in a bibliography on this page 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 What was Lorrin's handle when he was active on the CMBB chat site a few years back? Might've been Rexford, now that i recall! Maybe you can locate a past post of his, and maybe an email address will be attached, and maybe... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I think it was Rexford rexford (Member # 4402) Member Registered: December 28, 2000 old CMBB thread about 88mm accuracy but no e-mail link for Rexford 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 5, 2008 Author Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well, I had been over there in the CMx1 forums already, just looking at all the old threads on the accuracy of the game and performance of the gear represented (they're pretty interesting), Rexford is indeed what he went by. But the problem is, not only are there virtually no vendor's of this book, I believe Lorrin passed away (thats what I last heard), though I shot him an email anyways. IPE- ack, I havent checked the archives, I'll see what that turns up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Sgt.Rock of Easy Company, The last info I had was that Rexford was banned some time ago. No idea why. Never saw anything on his demise. The book is very hard to come by for two reasons: A) Grogs who have a copy won't part with it, and The print run was minuscule. A bad combo for someone like you. Were I in your shoes, I'd try to track down him or his coauthor. Would suggest you try George Bradford's AFV Discussion Forum. http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=73 Believe I've seen Rexford/Lorrin post there on several occasions. Someone there can probably give you a viable lead, maybe George Bradford himself, who's a great guy. Good luck! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I doubt very much that Rexford was ever banned. His account still comes up when you search for his name in the directory, which banned accounts will not (try "Kitty"). More likely he's gone on to the great armory in the sky. I am symbolically banning xellos for posting a ridiculously long url. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I do not know Lorrin Bird's real life status, but he certainly wasn't banned from here. His style of posting wasn't to everybody's liking and I know he got into some pretty good scraps with people on various Forums. IIRC there were some here as well. However, in a more private setting (email and beta testing) he was in his true element. CMx1 was made that much better by his contributions. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I emailed with Lorrin many times about armor subjects and he was always forthcoming and willing to help share knowledge so we could improve the simulation aspect of CM1. We sure never banned him! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Would any of you two guys happen to know of a way of getting ahold of the book? The only things I can think of now (If lorrin indeed pass away) is to buy from someones personal collection or, though I don't condone it, get scans of it from an owner. ugh, it seems I'm a little late on the ball... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelmia Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 This sounds stupid, but have you tried interlibrary loan? Librarians can be pretty good at finding rare stuff like this. I can't access First Search or World Cat remotely, but it's a good thing to try. I used to work for a library, and it was amazing what you could find sitting in a collection somewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Very rare indeed! http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/71143143&tab=holdings?loc=united+states#tabs I work at a library...LOL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Steve and Charles, Hmm. Could've sworn I saw something about his being banned. I certainly don't mention such things lightly. Perhaps there was interdimensional bleed over one day when I was on, rather like that Superman comic book in which giant arrows started raining from the sky as a result of an inadvertent dimensional door connecting a world of giants archery range with our smaller scale reality. Maybe he was banned in a parallel reality, and that somehow leaked through. Interesting to speculate about, for I have no real idea where I would get such a notion. SlapHappy, That's the copyright copy! Rather doubt that one'll ever go out on Interlibrary Loan. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Originally posted by John Kettler: Steve and Charles, Hmm. Could've sworn I saw something about his being banned. I certainly don't mention such things lightly. Perhaps there was interdimensional bleed over one day when I was on, rather like that Superman comic book in which giant arrows started raining from the sky as a result of an inadvertent dimensional door connecting a world of giants archery range with our smaller scale reality. Maybe he was banned in a parallel reality, and that somehow leaked through. Interesting to speculate about, for I have no real idea where I would get such a notion. SlapHappy, That's the copyright copy! Rather doubt that one'll ever go out on Interlibrary Loan. Regards, John Kettler Oh, I wasn't suggesting it would.... I was just pointing out that Washington is the only location listed as a holding in the entire United States. No books leave the Congressional Library, I believe. It is a research library only....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Rock of Easy Company Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well, do any of yall have any suggestions? It seems like the options are running dry. Though I may be able to get to the congressional library (from Texas ) during spring break and get it photocopied (probably cost more than the book all said and done, but if its all I got, its worth it). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Livingston Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm the co-author of the book. Any luck finding a copy? I have only a single copy of the second edition. Can anyone get me a pdf file? The idea is to republish the book, with some changes and additions. The first author, Lorrin Bird, is evidently alive, but I have lost contact with him. Thanks RL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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