Gunfreak Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I never played the old games, so I don't know if there was ever a pacific mod for it. But with this game simulating infantry combat so well, I think this game would be great for a pacific mod or expantion, sadly I have no mod skills. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroCat Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I think I remember there was a Pacific mod for CMBO way back... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WriterJWA Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I would absolutely LOVE for there to be a Pacific version of this game. There's all this argument that it would be boring, but I don't see how with all the emplacements and terrain ranging from jungle to volcanic rock, the vehicles such as the flamer tank and the amphibious tractor. Imagine trying to cross the Tenaru on Guadalcanal with a Marine raider squad and having one of your men eaten by an hidden alligator, then have to face a hidden Japanese Nambu machinegun emplacement and a sniper tied to the top of a tree. Or, imagine you're a battalion commander of the 5th Marines trying to get your men across the airfield at Peleliu, or a company commander looking up at Mount Suribachi. I think the tactical opportunities are absolutely endless! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Carwash Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 It would be great if there were eventually a Pacific game in the series, however I think the main challenge is that in the Pacific theater land operations were closely integrated with naval forces, which is really beyond the scope of the engine (as it was with CMx1). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WriterJWA Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 It would be great if there were eventually a Pacific game in the series, however I think the main challenge is that in the Pacific theater land operations were closely integrated with naval forces, which is really beyond the scope of the engine (as it was with CMx1). The ships themselves, particularly the larger ones like destroyers, cruisers, battleships, and transports don't need to be modelled at all. They were, in many cases, miles off shore (10+ miles in the case of Tarawa). Any of the bombardement aspects can be handled much like off-map artillery is handled, just with their specific wait times applied, etc... What WOULD need to be modelled would be the beaches and tides, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be much more than a play on water obstacles as they stand now. Once on land, the Marines/soldiers fought on their own without the Navy directly involved aside from fire support and supplies, the latter of which isn't graphically modeled, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfreak Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 You allready have naval artillery in the game, cruisers, destroyers and 12 and 14 inch battleship guns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I think the pacific would be cool for a module. New terrains; coral caves, volcanoe ashe. We have water now so there could be amphib assaults. Lots of FIRE, flame tanks, and NAPALM air strikes! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I never played the old games, so I don't know if there was ever a pacific mod for it. But with this game simulating infantry combat so well, I think this game would be great for a pacific mod or expantion, sadly I have no mod skills. Hey buddy!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 You'd spend a lot of time doing crazy Japanese entrenchments and tunnels. I don't know how fun it would be to play, maybe something like CMSF with red fanatics. The Japanese were always dug in and always defending. A human player could spend two days on their setup and then never move a single unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I think to make a Pacific module would require much more work than you think. This conversation has come up many times in the past and its been stated that there are no plans to do a Pacific version of the game. Official comments in the past have stated they don't have much knowledge and are not interested in the Pacific. As for the work involved, all new weapons, graphics, terrain (lots of thick jungle)caves, all new TO&E (lots of research), caves, etc, for both marines and Japanese. You also have to figure out how to model bonzai charges, etc. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it but realisticly for the scope of Combat Mission it probably would not do wonders for the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfreak Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hey buddy!! Hey Dude!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Don't forget the CBI theatre was part of the Pacific. I'd love to see both the island hopping and Phillipines/Burma actions, but to do it right would require it's own game (maybe several, like the Eatern Front) and modules, I'd think. Then again, maybe some one will mod it (like the Korea CMSF mod) or a 3rd party will make it (like CM:A). We can hope, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 There are Zero planes for a Pacific mod.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 lol characters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Dunno why but the Pacific has been generally bypassed in the simulation side of things, sad as is it a great theatre for some interesting games, especially since the focus is off armour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Probably because at least half the buyers for Battlefront are not Americans, most of them not so much interested in the Pacific theater. Polo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WriterJWA Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Probably because at least half the buyers for Battlefront are not Americans, most of them not so much interested in the Pacific theater. Polo I'd like to see statistics that prove that.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I doubt more than half of CM buyers are not American, but you never know. However, armor sells wargames to the average person off the street without the slightest notion of grogginess or playing pbem, and the Pacific ain't got much in the way of sexy armor. So, don't look for BFC to spend all the painstaking time they take for game releases on something that probably has very limited potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankster65 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I too would love to see a pacific version of this game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Schultz Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I think that BFC have said they aren't interested a few times over the years. It would be great to have an independent group do a CM:A-type of deal. As stated above, the research alone would be a large undertaking. Then combining that into the engine with all those new units and terrain is another whopper of a job. I go on record as saying I would pay full BFC price for the game and any Modules, if it were to ever come to pass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Though beeing "german", I´d rather like seeing a Pacific module, instead of any revisit of a desert TOW. As already has been pointed in the Maps&Mods section, modding CMN to italy seems to be possible and if BFC ever considers an early war module (France 1940), as desert mod would not be long to be waited for. I see some issues with high density jungle maps and game performance, as well as varity for battle types in the pacific though. Western and eastern front TOW offers way more in this regard IMO. But a +1 for pacific...at least after Bagration & Barbarossa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Nah not into the pacific. You'd end up playing with the trees turned off on a round flat map representing an island. Or a round map with a pointy bit in the middle - then spend the next two hours pinned down ona beach or combing the island for the last few holed up defenders. Nah Ost Front all the waaaaay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I cannot think of a bigger waste of effort - truly. But then perhaps because I loathe playing the AI and cannot see why any human would wish to play the Japanese. However for people who play the AI I can see they might find it fun to plough an island with shellfire and then beat up what is left. I do think the desert gets a lot of bad Press particularly when you consider that Tiger Valley was the greatest scenario to come out of CMAK. Whatever you may think now I suspect that 6 months down the road tanks will be recognised as the fun units to play with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etagimbo Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Though beeing "german", I´d rather like seeing a Pacific module, instead of any revisit of a desert TOW. I am German, too and I also want the Pacific Theater! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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