panzermartin Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Special units like paras and rangers need new haircuts. New haircuts need extensive coding. Not going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yes, but only slightly. You may not realize how frustrating it can get sometimes... Michael Cheer up...there will be miles upon miles of posts of guys trying to out WWII each other, soon enough. Nothing says the BFC boards like two guys violently going toe to toe for 300 posts over a sprocket. You'll get what you seek...oh yes...ohhhhh yes. So, anyway...I really hated that one guy in Hogan's Heroes...what was his name? Klink? His leadership abilities were not up to par compared to most POW camp commanders in 44.... Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Just curious, but what is the barrier to inclusion of the Ranger Battalion beyond the reorganization* of the US Army Infantry Battalion? We have all the needed assets, do we not? (I know the Boys AT rifle is missing, but that was seldom if ever used in Normandy.) *I understand that doing the new org, even if it is just changing the structure around, is a barrier in and of itself, I'm just wondering if there is something more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I want LRDG in the game. Little known fact but they were actually largely responsible for the complete destruction of the Luftwaffe by raiding airfields deep in Germany itself. Paddy Mayne personally destroyed 249 FW190s in the Rhineland. Who knows how many he blew up in other parts of the Reich. Hell throw in the OSS and SAS. Maybe Delta Force too (you know... an "early version" with just silencers, no NVGs or thermals) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yes, but only slightly. You may not realize how frustrating it can get sometimes... Michael Now what exactly about me renaming a unit after characters in a movie means I'm getting my history from it ... I'll rename an infantry squad "The 300" if I damn well please! :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 *I understand that doing the new org, even if it is just changing the structure around, is a barrier in and of itself, I'm just wondering if there is something more. For Rangers in particular? It's pretty much not wanting anything more on our plates that needs to be supported through the testing process. There is so much TO&E in the game now that our legions of testers have not even touched some of them, which means we still have bugs in what we already have that need to be worked out. Introducing new TO&E at this point, no matter how theoretically simple, is not an option. One of the traditional problems we've had with "easy" TO&E changes is that they generally aren't. Often times there is some sort of critical piece of equipment that crops up and then we're faced with abandoning the new Formation or investing more time than we had allocated. Which then introduces all kinds of potential sources for additional "gotchas" that cause even more delays. We got hit over the head with this BIG TIME when doing the NATO TO&E. At the start the new equipment needs looked modest. But when we got into it we found that stuff we thought we could share turned out to have minor differences which required new models instead of just new textures. I'm not saying Rangers would be like this, but until we invest a pretty good chunk of time we won't know for sure. And that's time we don't have at the moment. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I want LRDG in the game. Little known fact but they were actually largely responsible for the complete destruction of the Luftwaffe by raiding airfields deep in Germany itself. Paddy Mayne personally destroyed 249 FW190s in the Rhineland. Who knows how many he blew up in other parts of the Reich. Er, I think you mean the SAS, don't you? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 So, anyway...I really hated that one guy in Hogan's Heroes...what was his name? Klink? His leadership abilities were not up to par compared to most POW camp commanders in 44.... It isn't that he lacked leadership qualities, it's that he saw that the war was lost and he was positioning himself for an easy transition to Allied occupation. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I KNOW NOTHIIING! NOTHING! Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I want LRDG in the game. Little known fact but they were actually largely responsible for the complete destruction of the Luftwaffe by raiding airfields deep in Germany itself. Paddy Mayne personally destroyed 249 FW190s in the Rhineland. Who knows how many he blew up in other parts of the Reich. Sorry, but do you have any source for that ? Sounds a bit strange...destoying 249 FW190 by raiding airfields in germany (behind enemy lines). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 We got hit over the head with this BIG TIME when doing the NATO TO&E. At the start the new equipment needs looked modest. But when we got into it we found that stuff we thought we could share turned out to have minor differences which required new models instead of just new textures. Steve And we love you guys for it. If I'm not wrong at least Ranger uniforms should be no different other than the Ranger patch, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauny1987 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 So it's come to this...people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies. I guess it had to happen. The human race is doomed. Michael Don't dispair Mikey, The WW2 nature of this game will drag back all the old combat mission crowd. I have never had complaint in the knowledge of CM Beyond Overlord players 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Well, he did say they were a prime candidate for the last module so there's hope that they make it in. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Some one was saying something about Ost battalions in Normandy. I take it these had a different organization than regular German Army Infantry? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finalcut Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 So it's come to this...people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies. I guess it had to happen. The human race is doomed. MichaelAs opposed to your first hand experience during WWII.Or was it WWI you were in you grumpy old bastard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 As opposed to your first hand experience during WWII.Or was it WWI you were in you grumpy old bastard. I'll have you know I was never a grumpy old bastard...until recently. Now it's no more Mister Nice Guy. I'm gonna be meaner than a bucket full of cobras. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 As opposed to your first hand experience during WWII.Or was it WWI you were in you grumpy old bastard. Oh, the stories he could tell you about the Peloponnesian wars. Meh on the elitism. I believe we are here for the entertainment value of the Second World War. To that end Saving Private Ryan isn't as irrelevant as the readers of the top shelf of historical reference works would like to think. For instance, without it and films like it WW2 would be that unpleasant moment in time humanity would rather forget. But instead, we think it cool and fun. Films did that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Just wanted to throw in that I think Rangers are worthwile for adding in a later module if possible. Theres so much goodness in the base game that there is no need to get them in there even though they ran around Normandy - but so did SS and FJ. Anyways, as has been mentioned before, they fought for the Omaha Beachhead, including Grandcamp, and then at Brest - among many other engagements. And most of all, their TO&E is unique and fun! Steve, any plans on doing an OST Battalion in one of the later modules? Thanks Chad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand digger Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Too many Murricans in it already, they are all the same anyway. Lets have some real variety, obviously Brit/Com. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Lets have some real variety, obviously Brit/Com. And there should be an automatic cease fire in the middle of every battle so that they can have their tea. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Sorry, but do you have any source for that ? Sounds a bit strange...destoying 249 FW190 by raiding airfields in germany (behind enemy lines). lol I was just trollin... surprised anyone believed any of that hahaha. LRDG AFAIK only operated in North Africa. And Michael LRDG and SAS cooperated on the airfield raids in North Africa... though it was LRDG that started the whole thing. SAS joined in riding with them after their first mission by parachuting in was a total disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 LRDG AFAIK only operated in North Africa. They also operated for a while in some of the Greek islands. Beyond that my recollection dries up. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Belenko Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 So it's come to this...people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies. I guess it had to happen. The human race is doomed. Michael What? WWII didn't end when the leadership of the Nazi state died in a cinema fire?? C'mon man! they wouldn't start a movie with "Once upon a time..." if it wasn't true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Too many Murricans in it already, they are all the same anyway. Lets have some real variety, obviously Brit/Com. Brit/Commonwealth are covered in the first and second modules. Plenty of room for a Ranger Bn in the third 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 they wouldn't start a movie with "Once upon a time..." if it wasn't true. "Once upon a time in the West[ern Front]..." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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