SD Smack Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 ok so i have an idea here. what about having the ability to have the weather change during a battle. currently CMSF allows for battles to last for two hours. this is a long time and weather has been known to change in shorter time than that. how about give the scenario designer the ability to have the weather change during the time frame of the battle. for example: at the start of the scenario there is thick haze (or in CM:Normandy Fog) but after 30 minutes the haze decreases to light haze and then finally none at all. same thing with rain and snow, having it start or stop during the course of a battle. i could see this definitely happening during Buldge battles. just an idea, what do you guys think. steve-o 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Until CM is set in New England, I don't think we have to worry about the weather changing that quickly. I'll be happy with weather being modeled at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costard Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I'd like to see wind affected arty - gusts and lulls spreading the dispersion a little more and along the axis of the wind direction. Particularly for the WW2 title - modern US arty seems to be a "aim and forget" situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theFightingSeabee Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I'd like to see a wind direction indicator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Pv- Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Second the indicator. -Pv- 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisS Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Until CM is set in New England, I don't think we have to worry about the weather changing that quickly. I'll be happy with weather being modeled at all. I commanded the Base Weather station at Riyadh during the First Gulf War. This is a subject I know a bit about. Even with my 25+ years experience as a meteorologist, I was quite surprised at how much the weather changed, and how much precipitation there was. Storms would roll in from the southwest at speeds of 30 mph or more, unusual for that latitude. With the proper upper air pattern, you could easily see a rapid change in the weather, enough to warrant the ability to model it. Even with dry weather, a rapidly moving cool front could kick up a Shamal, a dust storm that would take visibility from unlimited to just a few feet in a couple of minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handihoc Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I can deal with no weather effects in Shock Force (just as well, really!) but weather is something that can definitely add an extra 'je ne sais quoi' to the game - as it did to tremendous effect in CMx1. So I sure hope we'll see it in battles for CM WW2, and SF Europe, and if it could change during the course of a battle, that'd be an extra plus. Here in the UK, in April, you can have all four seasons within an hour, repeating throughout the day, so rapid changes under some circumstances are far from unusual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Based on nothing at all, I'd bet once BFC introduces 'showers' into the game engine they'll move across the landscape the way cloud shadows do currently, raising and lowering LOS values as they pass. That just seems to be the way they think. 'Rain' on the other hand would be omnipresent. Of course I also predicted working wristwatches on all troops too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Until CM is set in New England, I don't think we have to worry about the weather changing that quickly. I'll be happy with weather being modeled at all. Never had a shamal (sp?) run into you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I remember having a great game in CM1 where I could use the fog to flank an attacking German force - getting good angles on the sides of Panthers etc. Having that fog descend or lift would have a huge impact on tactics - like dawn now. Love to see it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Never had a shamal (sp?) run into you? No, but I didn't think they have those in Western Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 No, but I didn't think they have those in Western Europe. I didn't assume this thread was about CM:N. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I definitely hope we can have some weather elements change within the battle. As said on the previous page, basing an action on the assumption of cover from fog should be accompanied by uncertainty that it will actually be there when needed. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I didn't assume this thread was about CM:N. I assumed it was because I didn't think BFC was planning to add weather to CMSF. I thought we were discussing features of the upcoming CM:N, which will have weather. But heck, I don't really want to fight in a sand storm. Do real troops fight in a sand storm, or do they wait until it passes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I assumed it was because I didn't think BFC was planning to add weather to CMSF. I thought we were discussing features of the upcoming CM:N, which will have weather. OP could've been taken either way. I hold out hope for more major enhancements to CMSF because (unlike 95% of the forum) I prefer the modern setting. So in that regard I'm biased. But heck, I don't really want to fight in a sand storm. Do real troops fight in a sand storm, or do they wait until it passes? We try not to, but stuff happens. Picture taken during the second Thunder Run, 3-15 IN's mortar section. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Smack Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 I didn't assume this thread was about CM:N. well it kind of was about the next possible chance to put a change into the system. in my thinking it would be CM:N, but if it could be done for CMSF that would be awesome. and apparently i fall into the 5% there that like modern setting :-D. but i still like WW2....well i guess i like all of it! steve-o 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaragdadler Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 An idea for weather: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Remember, anything developed for CMx2 is available for anything made going forward. We've already announced CM:SF 2 will be released with a temperate environment. Therefore, in a round about sort of way, talking about what might go into CM:Normandy also means what might go into CM:SF 2. Obviously we're never going to remove an applicable feature once we've coded, tested, and tweaked it It could be that CM:Normandy doesn't get variable weather within a scenario, but that CM:SF 2 (and the second WW2 Family) will. As I keep saying over and over again... the primary benefit of CMx2's code is that we can evolve it over time instead of periodically stopping everything and redoing the code from scratch. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsmith Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Remember, anything developed for CMx2 is available for anything made going forward. We've already announced CM:SF 2 will be released with a temperate environment. Therefore, in a round about sort of way, talking about what might go into CM:Normandy also means what might go into CM:SF 2. SNIP FULDA GAP 2015 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 hahah set it in Scotland CMSF:Haggis Bashers. The weather would change every 5 minutes. Start the haggis hunt in a gale force hurricane and end it in warm sunshine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 hahah set it in Scotland CMSF:Haggis Bashers. The weather would change every 5 minutes. Start the haggis hunt in a gale force hurricane and end it in warm sunshine. That could also describe Washington, DC. Well, without the haggis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Heh, I think the following statement will ring true with anybody anywhere in the world. Just fill in the blank with where you grew up or have lived the longest: Until CM is set in _____________, I don't think we have to worry about the weather changing that quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Heh, I think the following statement will ring true with anybody anywhere in the world. Just fill in the blank with where you grew up or have lived the longest: Haha, probably true. Except California. It's always sunny all day, or rainy all day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Smack Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Remember, anything developed for CMx2 is available for anything made going forward. SWEET!!!!! so we can finally have that all tigers all abrams fight that we/ve always wanted! steve-o 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Heh, I think the following statement will ring true with anybody anywhere in the world. Just fill in the blank with where you grew up or have lived the longest: Until CM is set in _____________, I don't think we have to worry about the weather changing that quickly. Except California. It's always sunny all day, or rainy all day. My experience living in northern California since 1990 is that I have seen the weather growing more erratic from year to year. It used to be that one could pretty much count on rain most of the day most every day throughout winter, such that creeks and rivers would flood almost every year. Nowadays, "winter" might be characterized by sunny, cloudless, 70+-degree weeks rather than simply days, with virtually no rain until early spring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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