Capt. Toleran Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Supposedly a Russian 12.7mm MG in action, vs. target car. Widescreen: http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autostart=true&token=0e7bff4a1f&p=46392&s=1 Orig window: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e7bff4a1f 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hell, a 7.62mm will cut through a car almost as well. Cars are not cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Just noticed that A-10 friendly fire incident video from OIF...Orange rockets?? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e06da463d7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Originally posted by fytinghellfish: Hell, a 7.62mm will cut through a car almost as well. Cars are not cover. In other news: - Abrams gun capable of taking out light truck at 500 metres. - Soviet Strela missile danger to planes if fired at them - Sun rises in the east All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I believe the customary response is "Hey, cool!" Are we so jaded that video of a Russian mg cutting up a car isn't interesting anymore? Perhaps BFC might consider sampling that particular sound for that particular mg in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Oddly enough I remember looking at the penetration figures for soviet weapons and it turned out that at under 500m the 14.7mm was actually better than a 23mm. Obviously over range and particularly at 2,000m or so the 23mm was far better, and therefore the obvious choice for AA. but it does mean that if you operate helicopters even armoured ones in urban areas, you can get a nasty surprise. Peter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hey, cool!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Yes, "hey cool" already. Cmon guys, we're about to all buy a game that simulates it, wouldn't you like to see it in action? We aren't all vets here, some of us never saw this in person. Thanks for the backup, MikeyD. Rollstoy, you get an assist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I thought Soviet tracers were green, are we sure its a 12.7 Russian made or just an M-2? Yes I'm happy the sun rises in the east, it has for every day I have been alive, kinda makes you feel good about nature being in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Cool video but could they have stood any CLOSER to that truck?!? Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Bombs Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Just curious, but how different is the MG in that video than the 12.7mm MG in CMBB? Or is it practically the same? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Cool video of the MG fire. Reminds me of the private shooting events we hold here where we open fire on cars with various full auto weapons, much like what you see in the video. Except we do it in the day. On the A-10 video, a couple of comments. First, I note the comment at the beginning of that article on how the A-10 pilot was described as "gloating sickeningly" as he made his attack run. What an idiotic statement, our soldiers (including England's) are *supposed* to be enthusiastic about obliterating the enemies of our countries. They're warriors, not girl scouts. Of course they are going to be enthused when making an attack run on Saddam's army. There's nothing negative or "sickening" about that. I'm certainly saddened to see that friendly brit forces were hit (as were the pilots very obviously), the same thing has happened to U.S. forces before, it's nothing new. Friendly fire accidents occur in war. I would point out that the the pilots asked several times if there were any friendlies in the target area and were told repeatedly that none were. If there was some further checklist protocol that was supposed to have been followed to ensure no friendlies in the area before any firing was done, and that wasn't followed, then disciplinary action is warranted. But it's not like these guys just went in there wildly firing, they checked with the FAC and asked him several times if there were any friendlies in the area, and the FAC kept saying no. They obviously were very concerned for the safety of friendly ground forces that might be in the area, and that has to be factored in to any hearing on the matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Toleran Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 I agree -- the only thing that went against them was the 2nd pilot's impulsiveness, as some article I read said they should have waited for one more confirmation (they had another arty strike in to mark the target). Regardless, it is a shame that the family of the UK soldier killed was jerked around a bit by the powers that be. Still, they had checked so throughly, and were cleared, so it is sad that something like this should happen to what seems like a fairly responsible decision maker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsobill Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 so the MAIN QUESTION - will penetration be implemented in CMSF and will we see holes in the tanks, walls? ... i think there was screnshots with holes in the walls right yay! ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Originally posted by Capt. Toleran: I agree -- the only thing that went against them was the 2nd pilot's impulsiveness, as some article I read said they should have waited for one more confirmation (they had another arty strike in to mark the target). Regardless, it is a shame that the family of the UK soldier killed was jerked around a bit by the powers that be. Still, they had checked so throughly, and were cleared, so it is sad that something like this should happen to what seems like a fairly responsible decision maker. One of the things that really used to piss me off in the army was when command would come down with "Anyone past this line after X hundred hours is enemy" and then call you every five minutes to tell you about the approaching engineers, or cooks, or florists. Too many times guys see what they were expecting to see because they have been told that nothing else should be there. It makes you doubt your eyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Oh, almost forgot. Hey cool! If you notice though, all the fire is going through the empty part of the truck. If they were shooting through the engine block I would be more impressed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Pollock Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 So cool it's hot! Pick-up truck, not a car...although in Alberta they seem more prevalent than cars Two things I wasn't ready for in this video: 1. He shoots low a lot, even at short range on a closed field (or are the occasional dirt puffs along the LOF something else?); 2. Some of the tracers not only bounce off (which I expected) but seem to disintegrate and kick off their incendiary as more of a starshell flare; Originally posted by Capt. Toleran: Supposedly a Russian 12.7mm MG in action, vs. target car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tools4fools Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 - Sun rises in the east Sure about that? There was a place - little bar - in Manila where I would swear it was not. But then maybe it had something to do with the consumption of intoxinating drinks... And yes, the guy seems to miss the car quite a few times... That maybe explains why he went so close... ***** 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 More closer and they could use a bayonet and spare the ammo. If the target was harder they risked get their heads blown up with a ricochet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Brent, The phosphorous on a tracer is just in a little cup in the back. It is stuck there but does come off fairly regularly. I set several targets on fire when the cherry fell off and stuck to the them as the round went through. Usually if I hit a support beam or something fairly solid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jippo Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Originally posted by Nidan1: I thought Soviet tracers were green, are we sure its a 12.7 Russian made or just an M-2?They're red. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsobill Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by Jippo: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nidan1: I thought Soviet tracers were green, are we sure its a 12.7 Russian made or just an M-2?They're red. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I like when the tracer cartridges get flung up into the air and float down. Also the bright sparks that appear when the truck is hit, are those impact sparks or disintegrating tracers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offtaskagain Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by Flanker15: I like when the tracer cartridges get flung up into the air and float down. Also the bright sparks that appear when the truck is hit, are those impact sparks or disintegrating tracers? A mix of both. It's really spectacular seeing an M2 firing Armor Piercing Incindiary rounds at a solid target, like a tank hulk. It's like a roman candle from hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jippo Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Originally posted by unsobill: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jippo: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nidan1: I thought Soviet tracers were green, are we sure its a 12.7 Russian made or just an M-2?They're red. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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