Omenowl Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I favor a highly accurate pistol with enough weight that I don't hurt my hand with the recoil (give me a larger pistol vs. a snub nose anyday). A .45 or .357. I am not a big fan of 9mm rounds. It needs enough kinetic energy to put down a horse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Fighting Seabee Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Why? Do horses attack you often? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiB Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Seabee obviously has never been to Texas. I get attacked on my way to work by ravenous packs of horses out for blood every other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbott Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Ya, street horses can be a bitch. Here in South Central <small<small>Oregon</small</small> they are starting to rear their ugly heads! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 A lot of people swear by the Type II Phaser, but I really don't like it. It's bulky, doesn't fit my hand right, and I really don't like how the power pack attaches to the base. I'm always afraid that if I hit the phaser on the side of a door as I come through it, I'll end up facing the bad guys with just a power pack in my fist! Plus, for the weight of one Type II Phaser, you can carry 3-4 Type I's. It's easy to hold one in each hand and have two on your belt for back up. I even know people (well, really just one guy) who use Type I's as key fobs. (I don't though; I've always been afraid of accidentally vaporizing my car while trying to unlock it in a dark parking garage.) The Type II does have more power, but the Type I can disintegrate a man with no problem at all common ranges - and really, who needs more power than that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalem Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 You could carry a satchel of Type Is - just twist the little knob on top for the overload setting and lob them like grenades. -dale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Originally posted by dalem: You could carry a satchel of Type Is - just twist the little knob on top for the overload setting and lob them like grenades. -dale Yes, Type I's are very flexible, especially if you buy the mail-order aftermarket kit that eliminates the loud overload warning. Still, though, I'd hate to blow up my living room. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Andrew H - "They sacrificed hundreds just to get us out into the open. And then they came – and they came. We drained four phasers and still they came. We killed thousands, and still they came..." lol. CMBB tactics... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Combat Mission: Star Trek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Originally posted by the Fighting Seabee: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Adam1: "Worst handgun ever? Desert Eagle. " Why? Plus, the one I fired ejected the casings straight back and hit me right between the eyes every time. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I prefer something that shoots a nice continuous stream of water with a minimal amount of pumping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 HK USP in .40 S&W is my personal favorite. I also love shooting Desert Eagle in .50 AE. I have unusually large hands which makes it easier to not get hit in the head with spent brass. My sister likes shooting Desert Eagle as well. However, I think the best sidearm is a BlasTech DL-44, you know, the blaster pistol Han Solo uses. That thing is sweet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalem Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I got to shoot a broomhandle Mauser last year - not as awkward as I'd thought. -dale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Originally posted by dalem: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nidan1: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dalem: Sidearm if I needed to carry a full-size handgun? My Steyr M9 - looks like a ray gun and fits like a dream. I shoot it well. For me. Sidearm I shoot best? My buddy's CZ-75 in 9mm. I don't think I can miss with this gun, and I'm not that good a shot - the bullets just go where you want them to. -dale You mean like the Gun Gene Simmons used in "Runaway" </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunwinglow Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Tim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Small, compact, perfect for covert operations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Originally posted by sgtgoody (esq): Small, compact, perfect for covert operations. Looks like a VW engine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenowl Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Why? Do horses attack you often? If you have to put down an injured horse or cattle then you definitely want a round that can do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Why wouldnt you call a veterinary? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Then the poor animal suffers for the hours it may take for the vet to get to you and tell you what you knew in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman552 Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 A Glock 19 works best for me - reliable, compact, 15 rounds, and I'm reasonably accurate with it. No bloodthirsty packs of horses around here, so that's one less thing to worry about. I also like my Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiB Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 My philosophy is, I prefer a little overkill. 9mm is a bullet, and it'll do the things that bullets do. .45ACP starts up 1/10" or so wider, and also expands a bit more iirc. So it gives you that much more of a chance to hit something vital enough to produce a stop. If someone prefers 9mm, I can't really tell them they're picking something inferior per se (other than, of course, noting the larger diameter.) I still prefer having all the % I can on my side, though. Before someone says "Well shoot them 5 more times with your extra ammo!", sometimes you don't have the time to pull the trigger 5 extra times. Also, just remember: Cop or Joe shmoe defending your home or life, you are MORALLY and LEGALLY responsible for where any misses go. I think I could hit someone in rapid fire at anything under 10 yards without a miss, but I've practiced a hell of a lot. You need to, too, if that's going to be your plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenowl Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Why wouldnt you call a veterinary?Cost is a major reason. This isn't putting your dog to sleep. You can't get rid of an old horse by selling it to a slaughter house since congress passed the stupid bill shutting them down. So you have an animal you purchased for 500-1000 dollars 15-20 years ago (or it was given to you). It is dieing and a vet will charge for the house call and then will charge for the medicine which is probably more than the horse was worth. This also does not include death sentences such as a broken leg, cancer or a few other conditions where a vet is useless. I do admit I have a bias for the .45 vs. 9mm. The fact the .45 came out to combat muslim extremists in the Phillipines because the .38 lacked enough power is good reason. I have heard 40% of gunfights are within 8ft, 80% are within 21 feet (FBI statistics supposedly, but can't verify a definitive source). A former policeman told me the average of gunfight had only 2 rounds fired. So I don't need the rounds unless I am shooting wildly in most cases. So I want a pistol that has enough rounds (5-7 is plenty though I have seen 14 rounds for certain pistols), an extra clip, enough stopping power for man or beast and a weapon I like to shoot. Also the .45 round tends to go subsonic so silencers can be used if needed without losing its effect. So that is why I favor a .45. I like the .357 revolver because of a revolver's reliability (a round won't fire then just go the next chamber). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 The Colt Combat Commander would fit that bill Omenwl. I have one myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Originally posted by MiB: My philosophy is, I prefer a little overkill. 9mm is a bullet, and it'll do the things that bullets do. .45ACP starts up 1/10" or so wider, and also expands a bit more iirc. So it gives you that much more of a chance to hit something vital enough to produce a stop. If someone prefers 9mm, I can't really tell them they're picking something inferior per se (other than, of course, noting the larger diameter.) I still prefer having all the % I can on my side, though. Before someone says "Well shoot them 5 more times with your extra ammo!", sometimes you don't have the time to pull the trigger 5 extra times. Also, just remember: Cop or Joe shmoe defending your home or life, you are MORALLY and LEGALLY responsible for where any misses go. I think I could hit someone in rapid fire at anything under 10 yards without a miss, but I've practiced a hell of a lot. You need to, too, if that's going to be your plan. I would note that basing lethality predictions on calibre is shaky ground, as far as small-arms go. There are plenty of accounts of people still geting up after being hit by rifle or machine gun fire, and those pack vastly more energy and effect compared to a pistol. Of course, the plural of anecdote is not data, but the data suggests that, if you want your target to go down and stay down, that the shotgun is the preferred option. If you don't have time to pull a trigger on a semi-automatic weapon five times, then you have no time to do anything. The only sure stops are hits to the central nervous system, with any pistol. Equally, that doesn't make the 9mm any better than the .45. Go with what you like and can use. And be aware of what it means to use it before you have to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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