Tarquelne Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 kawas's posts are really thought provoking: What else would have been different in WWII if the way vehicles, men, weapons, etc. behave in CMBO really was the way they behaved in RL. (No "Hmm... uh, my hand slipped" Autosave function, but most everything else...) Optional assumptions: a) Commanders get to pick the forces right before a battle (QB) Forces are never more than a few battalions in size c) Map edges, flags, turn limits d) QB point values correspond to unit construction cost and/or rarity. Any Generals who wouldn't have been able to cope with last turn flag rushes? Could it explain the "great escape" at Dunkirk? (I mean, a more interesting explaination.) Blitzkrig tactics still work? Would Germany have been able to produce SMGs to meet the demand? Would the Allies have fielded SMG troops? Would Canada have ruled the world? Wither the HMG? Would the Manhatten project have been derailed by Project Newark: an attempt to make a commander-spooter capable vehicle mounted mortar. Would the fact that all tanks of a given model have the same ID# altered the outcome of the Falaise pocket? [ August 19, 2002, 11:56 PM: Message edited by: Tarqulene ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryddle Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Originally posted by Tarqulene: <snip> Would Canada have ruled the world? But of course, that's the plan after all... www.standonguard.com -R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Originally posted by ryddle: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tarqulene: <snip> Would Canada have ruled the world? But of course, that's the plan after all... www.standonguard.com -R</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Originally posted by Tarqulene: Any Generals who wouldn't have been able to cope with last turn flag rushes? Only the most foolish General would fight without Badco's Endgame Randomizer. HMG's might not exist at all...their firepower is too weak (no grazing fire) and not only can the crews NOT run, but they can't abandon their MG if they get into big trouble. The Commonwealth might have foundered with the sub-par 25 pdr performance, unless their HQ's requisitioned lots of Crack spotters. 95mm Cromwells would be tank hunters par excellence. Bunkers and Aircraft would be banned by the Geneva convention for most battles. etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarquelne Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 Bunkers and Aircraft would be banned by the Geneva convention for most battles. etc etc etc.[/QB]What do the rules concerning POWs have to do with bunkers and aircraft, pray tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 the main battle tank of the german army would be the hetzer, supported ALWAYS by at least three 20mm flak cannons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Obviously all of the most effective weapons would have been banned by the Geneva Gamey Convention and the entire war would have been fought with rocks and clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 And Hitler would spend his whole time bellowing "Ja! I am ze best player because I play TCP-IP! Churchill sucks because he has a slow modem and only plays PBEM!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durbish Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Due to VRAM requirements the war would have probably gone on into the 60's at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 (In an office in the Kremlin Stalin sits in large leather chair glaring at Marshal Zhukov, who stands at attention) Stalin: You idiot! You've managed to lose the Great Patriotic War! Give me one good reason why I shouldn't hand you over to Beria and his boys right now! Zhukov: But, Comrade Stalin, we've captured Berlin, the hammer and sickle is flying over the Reichstag and the entirity of Eastern Europe from the Baltic to the Adriatic is in the hands of the glorious Red Army. How can I have lost? Stalin: Because, you fool, you lost too many men. I have the report here. it says Axis Tactical Victory. Guards! Take Private Zhukov to the Lubianka instantly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1steaks Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Do you think around April 1945 Hitler would have stopped sending his PBEM turns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Originally posted by a1steaks: Do you think around April 1945 Hitler would have stopped sending his PBEM turns?ROFL! I needed that laugh It has been mentioned before that a typical soldier would MAYBE see combat as intense as CMBO combat once during his war time experience. Battles that intense in that short of time just didnt happen that often. Battles would go on for days with the same effect. Chad Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningWar Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 ROTFLMAO! I am sure Hitler would have stopped sending the PBEMs Or worse yet unplugged the modem\lan connection hehe. If WWII would have ended up like CMBO many of us may not even be here because of the ridiculous amount of casualties that would have occured. -LW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Nah - the game would never have started because no-one in the Peng thread would have taken notice of all the SSN's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I figure the Japanese would have sent a game setup for night with heavy fog, choosing two dozen flame throwers Wasps, registered it with a ladder, and all it never even having been discussed with Roosevelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mensch Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Don't forget that Fionn would have upset Hitler in a big way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 None of the German flags would have Swastikas and the Waffen SS would have been called Hamstertruppen. When shot, the worst thing one would have heard was "Ow, my leg!" instead of tortured cries of pain and suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 The King Tiger and Tiger would of been much more prevelent, and the MKIV would have been one of the least produced tanks of the german side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike8g Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 1. Flak trucks would never have seen action as they never went beyond the stage of quality control. 2. The most used question by photo intelligence officers (when analysing pics of enemy troops) would have been: "What grass are they using ?" 3. Tank crews would not put paint on their tanks for additional camo, they would just load a mod. Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 There would be no war crimes because they're too damned difficult to perform. Rangers, commandoes and armored infantry would not be allowed on the battlefield, and all infantry would be forced to surrender any non-standard gear... "Jackson, where the hell'd you get that tommy gun?" "From one of the airborne boys." "Well throw it away and use your damned rifle, that's not part of our TO&E!" [ August 20, 2002, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Elijah Meeks ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 When you opponent (who you friendly set up a battle with, picking all the right conditions for you to win on the battlefield) runs his troops along the battlefield boundries, you can stop the battle, and demand that he sends those troops to the middle and to stop being so gamey! If he then opens up with his AT guns on your meeting engagement, you can cry gamey and stop the battle immedialty, never having to battle him agian and your troops are all sent on permanent leave. And, ontop of that, dont you even dare buyi . . . I mean bringing those German SMG troops, else you be found guilty of gamey playing and be executed by the peng after the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 The 37mm gunned Stuart would be considered 'Queen of the Battlefield" and spotters would know exactly where to drop their 25-30 artillery shells despite hiding alone in a church on the far side of a hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Originally posted by mike8g: 2. The most used question by photo intelligence officers (when analysing pics of enemy troops) would have been: "What grass are they using ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 What would happen if WWII were exactly like CMBO: The exact same results, but everyone would post on the forums about how the results were skewed because the Tiger's mantle wasn't modelled properly, German optics weren't taken into account and American tactics were gamey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Every battle would have been fought with a 10:1 ratio of men to tanks. Not bad when you stop to think about it. There would have been no amphibious landings or parachute drops, just conventional combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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