CombinedArms Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Originally posted by tabpub: []Give me a moment C.A. I'm fiendishly plotting your downfall with my setup. These things take time when one is a sneaky bastard. Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Setup file just sent to you about 10 minutes ago C.A. I hope you enjoy the map and good luck! Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 The mice have been released and are on there way... Alfie I await your return.... As for the Cpt I shall do the Gum Ball run tonight. As for Lopaka... Wake up Norcal... Wake up.... Damn this 9 hour difference... Ohhh and some good news the Eagle is shipped so the sooner I finish these the sooner I can turn my attention onto CMBB which was shipped from the states to me yesterday... H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Originally posted by Kanonier Reichmann: Setup file just sent to you about 10 minutes ago C.A. I hope you enjoy the map and good luck! Regards Jim R.BTW, same for you Spanish Bombs. You should have the file well and truly by now. Enjoy! Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 Alrighty then, it's time for me to cut up little slips of paper and randomly select the 4-player groups who will do battle. As was to be expected, I don't have an even multiple of four players. Have no fear! I will fill out the last section soon. Now I go to prepare a tourney for you lot of 30. Watch your mailbox, and keep an eye on this thread. You will once again be at war by the end of this weekend, maybe sooner. Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 God bless ya TB... I will enjoy hearing stories of how they played with their mice and rats... H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 Here be the randomly selected groups. Now who's going to clean up all these strips of paper on the floor?! The incomplete group 8 contains the last two players to sign up, EASY-V and Bertram. GROUP 1 Boris - bbalaban@rim.net John Kettler - kettler@relaypoint.net Tero - tero.leppanen@pp.inet.fi Fate - kirkcm@telus.net GROUP 2 Mikeydz - mikeydz@houston.rr.com a1steaks - gpaull@pacbell.net von Lucke - blane2@flash.net Cpt T - dktravis@stx.rr.com GROUP 3 White4 - christian.p.lerche@saic.com Sgt Gold - rspilot@nyc.rr.com mPisi - mPisi@flash.net Tom Norton - TGHCGN@aol.com GROUP 4 JonS - em@clear.net.nz Big X - ckeagle@earthlink.net Frunze - evanroberts1@charter.net Juha A - juha.ahoniemi@mail.htk.fi GROUP 5 JJelinek - jjelinek@intertek.net Hobo - hobo@mindpulse.com Heavy Drop - rtravis1@satx.rr.com Saport - jatucker@loxinfo.co.th GROUP 6 Cuzn - fvisintini@nyc.rr.com TabPub - Tabpub@aol.com Mike8g - mike8@lycos.com Wadepm - wadepm@attbi.com GROUP 7 Cpl Carrot - rjb109@slingshot.co.nz Strider - Strider@bak.rr.com Jim Liang - jim_liang@msn.com Visom - Visom@telia.com GROUP 8 EASY-V - vboyev@aol.com Bertram - BORedmeijere@home.nl Michael Reddy - mike.reddy@sbcglobal.net ?? I will begin sending files this afternoon. I will not be able to finish the job however. It may be the weekend before I get time to finish. Group 8, Hang tight. I'll get another guy soon. Treeburst155 out. [ October 09, 2002, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 A Nabla Scoring System Technology Breakthrough!! Now that we have had at least a dozen scenarios scored with the Nabla system, and have analyzed the results, we find that each scenario exhibits a different "fingerprint" with regard to the relationship of the scores to the median. IOW, the curve needs to be adjusted for each scenario so that bigger victories are properly rewarded when they are not outlier results. The same applies to big losses. We don't want the "big loss penalty" to kick in when many are losing big. In short, the scoring curve will be normalized based on the standard deviation from the median for each scenario. With each improvement we feel we are measuring player performance better. These finals will be scored with this improvement to the system. Nabla the genius is working on it now. Thanks Nabla! Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Congrats on the breakthrough! Holien, Capt, Lopaka...Turns on the way. And now when I've seen other scenarios, I know what you mean by turkey shootout Holien Now, Holien let that mouse loose, so I can feed it to my rats... Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Treeburst155, You read my mind! Just last night I was musing on the rather large database of scores from RoW II and realized a) that we had more than enough to run a statistically valid and usefulk standard deviation for each side in each scenario and that it would yield a much better player performance metric than the median, since it would better encompass the score swing you described. Regards, John Kettler P.S. Got my assignment. Do I need to add on to my sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Good News TB and that makes great sense, not sure what it would mean on the results of the last games. That would be interesting even if not actually applied? H P.s. Where do you keep your Rats Ali? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 John, The median is still the determiner of scenario balance. The standard deviation from this median will now be considered in the determination of the specific scoring curve applied to a given scenario. Holien, I doubt the ranking of the players in the first round would have changed with the new program. It may have caused a flip-flop among players who were very close however. More likely, the gaps between players would have been lessened or increased a little. In any case, when I get the new program from Nabla I will be running the round one scores through it because I'm curious too. The curve I've been using has fit most scenarios fairly well IMO. There have been a few exceptions however. These exceptions are common enough that we need to do something about them. That is happening now. To All, Except for Group 8, all the files have been sent out. Email is bouncing back to me from two of you. Am I using a valid address? JonS - em@clear.net.nz Visom - Visom@telia.com Treeburst155 out. [ October 09, 2002, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 TB, take the spaces out. jons-em[at]clear.net.nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 Ah yes, I see my error. I made a similar error with Visom. Both of you should have your files now. Group Four, Your contact list has an error in JonS' address. The correct address for him is: jons-em@clear.net.nz Group Seven, your contact list has an error in Visom's address. The correct address for him is: NL_Visom@telia.com [ October 09, 2002, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Heads up Group 7... I just got home, and I see files to process...they'll be on their way this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Just a morning update until JK can step in.... Turns sent to Ali and Lopaka... I hope the noise of my Bagpipes has the right effect on those mouse I am coming to free... As for the Capt I am having too much fun (wrong word) with Lopaka to have even worked out a way to run the gumball rally, so this will wait until I get a vision as to the way to play that one. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Ooooh! Vital information. I'm playing against the Scots. That makes all the difference to my dastardly plans. Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Dohhhhh.... I am so stupid, to give KR an advantage... The 1st battle with Lopaka is turning into quite a game and while the map is not like FotM the scenario is a great affair and really appeals to me. It is really neat idea and congrats to the designer for another top notch game... H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted October 11, 2002 Author Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jack Trap has taken the last slot in Group 8. All files are now out. Fight On!! Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Bombs Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Computer back up and running, should have my first turns out tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombinedArms Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Originally posted by Spanish Bombs: Computer back up and running, should have my first turns out tonight.Great to hear! I'll look forward to mine. And I've begun my engagement with KR as well. Should be fun, guys! [ October 10, 2002, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: CombinedArms ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Treeburst155, After I belatedly remembered to take the .cmb file out of the folder, once unzipped, I got the scenario in which I'm the attacker to be read properly by the game. When I opened it to look at the terrain, though, I was greeted by a bizarre elevated plaidish affair which is higher than a building, is angled back at 45 degrees, and extends across the full width of my end of the board. I can't tell whether or not it is preventing me from getting to anything I'm supposed to have, for it is effectively impenetrable, though behind a green line and extending to the edge of the map. Do I need another copy of the .cmb file, or should I play on with the bizarre bleachers looming large behind me? Regards, John Kettler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeydz Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 2 of 3 games started (setup turns exchanged) Looks interesting so far for the 2 maps I've seen. Should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Hey John. A suggestion. Get an IBM compatible machine rather than persisting with that fruit based thing of yours. I reckon all your problems will magically disappear once making the change. Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Hi JK are you sure you have not opened a CDIC scenario by mistake? H P.s. I think he might have snuck one in the pack the sneaky Man in China (MiC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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