Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 So what are the scenarios you would want to see in CMAK? Aside from the more obvious ones I would like to see the following make it. The fighting for Hunt's Gap in Tunesia, it's scale and balance are just right for CM. The fighting for Fort Capuzzo, not just because I would like to see the Beau Geste type fort. And one unlikely to make it with the release and I'm amazed no-one has mentioned it yet: Dieppe. How great would that be? It's so overlooked because it doesn't fit in with other campaigns/battles but I would so dig hitting the beaches with the Canadians. {edited because I checked the text, not the header} [ April 18, 2003, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Tweety ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 I want an SAS 'Rat Patrol' scenario! Not the American jeeps with mgs in the old TV show, the real deal - Brits in 4x4 trucks attacking far behind enemy lines. This would involve small unit actions far from armor and artillery. No doubt Crack Brits vs isolated conscript/green second eshilon troops. The scenario designer gives them an objective and you've got to see if you can pull it off. One tricky part, how to gets the Brits to behave professionally when being controlled by the AI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Balaban Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by MikeyD: I want an SAS 'Rat Patrol' scenario! Not the American jeeps with mgs in the old TV show, the real deal - Brits in 4x4 trucks attacking far behind enemy lines. This would involve small unit actions far from armor and artillery. No doubt Crack Brits vs isolated conscript/green second eshilon troops. The scenario designer gives them an objective and you've got to see if you can pull it off. One tricky part, how to gets the Brits to behave professionally when being controlled by the AI. I like that movie. The Brits and Australian used captured Italian Trucks to get behind enemy lines. Hold until releaved. Hold until releaved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombinedArms Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by Boris Balaban: [ Hold until releaved. Hold until releaved. [/QB]Isn't that what God says to deciduous trees as winter is coming on? Anyway, along with the obvious ones (Tobruk, El Alamein, Monte Casino, etc.) I'm looking forward to battles connected to the breeching of the Mareth Line, the Kasserine Pass attacks and counter-attacks, and some of Patton's manuevers in Tunis and Sicily. It will be interesting to watch the green American troops acquiring experience. Some of the battles around Anzio are quite interesting, too, including some good Ranger fights. The Italian war will give us a lot of room to practice attacks against dug in positions. Maybe we'll also see more use of airpower--the Allies should have some cool options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depawel Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Rommel, in a captured british armored car (which he used as a command post), being caught behind enemy lines, and making it home safely. The best part would be that it would be a historical scenerio. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Cook Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by MikeyD: I want an SAS 'Rat Patrol' scenario! Not the American jeeps with mgs in the old TV show, the real deal - Brits in 4x4 trucks attacking far behind enemy lines. This would involve small unit actions far from armor and artillery. No doubt Crack Brits vs isolated conscript/green second eshilon troops. The scenario designer gives them an objective and you've got to see if you can pull it off. One tricky part, how to gets the Brits to behave professionally when being controlled by the AI. Great idea. My one hope: the battle of Assoro, if it is at all possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie the Toad Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 How about some raids on supply columns, first the Italians vs the Africans, then the British vs the Italians then the Germans vs the British then the Americans vs the Germans. What a lot of traversing over the same desert! What a chance to see the improvements in tank and gun technology! Sand between my toes .... Toad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 A true Ortona campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 The British armoured counter-attack at Tobruk. Guess what happens when A13s hit PZ-IIIs in the flank . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 I could see Crete and a hypothetical airborne/seaborne invasion of Malta being very interesting. As would the various fights in the Greek islands, Leros etc. The fights in the mountains of Italy should be interesting after the slashing armoured battles in the desert. REALLY looking forward to more Italian equipment and types of troops. Have started to gather info for Italian scenarios and perhaps the planned but never executed German attack on Gibraltar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropey Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: A true Ortona campaign. Ugh - city battles aren't handled too well in my opinion. All the buildings would be flat within an hour or two... Cassino sucks as a battle for the same reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Red Line Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by ropey: All the buildings would be flat within an hour or two... Cassino sucks as a battle for the same reason. Maybe a super-heavy building type could simulate the fortress. But anyway Cassino battles are more than just the monastery assault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 And let's not forget Italy. Tiger I tanks versus 75mm gun Shermans in hilly terrain. I'm recalling the incident at Massa Lombarda just before the war ended, as told a couple years ago in the magazine AFV News. A New Zealand Sherman getting up to within 50 feet(!) of a Tiger I, emptying its entire ammo ready-rack into it and winning the duel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxx Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 rescue of the duce by otto skorzeny...how would they model the duce ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigadier Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 A short , fat bald bastard ... just like me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 For those of you interested in the African campaign I would suggest reading Panzer Battles by v.Mellenthin. Very interesting book. Covers a large part of the fighting in Africa and Russia and also gives some interesting insights in the mindset of a a German staff officer during WWII. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Matt Ridgway and friends vs. Tiger tanks in Italy, circa 1943. River crossing in Salerno. Battles during the drive for Messina. Assaulting the Gustav line. Otto's raid to save Mussolini. Kasserine Pass part I. Kasserine Pass part II. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Oh yes -- Hypothetical Vichy French & German Airborne vs. British forces in Syria (ever play Drive on Damascus? Great game.). Americans v. Vichy forces in 1942. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 O'connor's campaign in 1940-41 including Beda Fomm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by Tweety: So what are the scenarios you would want to see in CMAK? Aside from the more obvious ones I would like to see the following make it. The fighting for Hunt's Gap in Tunesia, it's scale and balance are just right for CM. The fighting for Fort Capuzzo, not just because I would like to see the Beau Geste type fort. And one unlikely to make it with the release and I'm amazed no-one has mentioned it yet: Dieppe. How great would that be? It's so overlooked because it doesn't fit in with other campaigns/battles but I would so dig hitting the beaches with the Canadians. {edited because I checked the text, not the header} There is a Dieppe Raid scenario for CMBB complete with Churchills - see the Scenario Depot and look up COMMANDO RAID RUSSIAN STYLE (IIRC) As for CMAK, would love to see an Ortona op. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by ropey: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: A true Ortona campaign. Ugh - city battles aren't handled too well in my opinion. All the buildings would be flat within an hour or two... Cassino sucks as a battle for the same reason. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by Tweety: So what are the scenarios you would want to see in CMAK? [snips] Termoli and Commachio, so we get RM Commandos with proper green hats. The Fuka Jeep Raid, so we get jeeps with Vickers Ks. George Ward Gunn's VC fight at Sidi Rezegh, so we get portees. Eric Wilson's VC fight at Observation Hill, Somalia, so we get the Somaliland Camel Corps. All the best, John. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shosties Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Lt. Col Waters/Blade Force north of Eddekhilo. IIRC it's the first American vs. German tank battle. It was given a treatment in Talonsoft's West Front (IMHO one of the best scenarios I ever played in that game... very fluid, great replay value, interesting mix of equipment on both sides). There's several paragraphs on it in Atkinson's "Army at Dawn". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Balaban Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Would an end run attack be playable. I am guessing the way Patton did in Italy. How about Anzio beach? How about haveing the Germans with Italian's attacking the British by the Pyramids of Giza? :eek: [ April 25, 2003, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: Boris Balaban ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Warrior Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 I'd like to see scenario conversions of the the old AH game, Tobruk. That was a great game but was time consuming to play in that it pushed the limits of boardgaming to the limits. Also, the battle of San Pietro. There is a CMBO scenario of this but an update with the new game features (like bigger hills) would be nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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