Haiduk Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, chrisl said: so it’s probably aliens. AIr Forces report Destroyed: - UFO over Kyiv ) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Definitely a meteor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Haiduk said: AIr Forces report Destroyed: - UFO over Kyiv ) oh great, we've all been wondering about an escalation with Russia and meanwhile Ukraine goes and starts a fight with our galactic overlords! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Haiduk said: AIr Forces report Destroyed: - UFO over Kyiv ) More seriously, it looks like there are at least a few satellites using 532 nm (green) for LIDAR, and if the clouds and angles are right it can be visible from the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, sburke said: oh great, we've all been wondering about an escalation with Russia and meanwhile Ukraine goes and starts a fight with our galactic overlords! Wait till Russian propaganda will get their hands on it. Ukrainian nazis awakening Nephilim will be one of more sensible explanations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraft Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Special Extraterrestial Operation has already failed! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Lethaface said: No I'm not making that assumption. At the same time I'm not making any conclusions to the contrary. Both the general and military intelligence services over here are of the opinion that China is the 'main threat'. They are playing our game with their own rules. Perhaps it's just that we aren't as gun savvy / gung ho overhere, but we aren't looking to solve the issue in a 'saving private ryan' moment. China is steadily building up it's navy, but without power fantasies one can conclude that their prowess hasn't been put to the test yet. They don't have a dozen Carrier strike groups power projection. They have hypersonic anti ship missiles but their accuracy isn't assertable. Can they reliably sink/neuter an aircraft carrier (strike group) without nuclear warheads? For their own carriers, show me thousands of sorties and precision. Paper capability versus proven capability and experience (US has got plenty). That isn't to say that they (CN) are crap; nobody knows for sure really, including whether we'd be crap against them ;-). It is true that a LOT of the real information about missiles, radars, sonars, long range drones, and, and.... is classified. But unless the U.S. Navy is in vastly better shape than the U.S. Army, the planners have underestimated the quantity of munitions required for a real war by a lot. Interestingly very little of that kind of information has shown up in the Air National Guard leak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Rabb Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Haiduk said: Like in English - ork (sing.) / orky (plur.) @masc Among soldiers this name "orcs" is not popular, it's used mostly among civilians and bloggers. Soldiers really name them "pidory" (Russian also often name in this way UKR soldiers). In whole, translation of dialogues and commands during this fight is VERY approximate because of many obscent lexic and jargones. I figured that LOTR references would be something more popular with somewhat nerdy guys on the internet following this war like me, than they would be with actual Ukrainian servicemen fighting. Closest that I have been to serving in the military is playing DCS and Arma on my computer. But if more realistic television shows like Generation Kill are anything to go by, military personnel at war have much more direct names for the enemy. These nicknames they use don't require being a fan of J.R.R Tolkien's books or the Warhammer 40K games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Howler said: Tibet 1950 Sino-Indian 1962 Sino-Vietnamese War 1979 The others such as clashes with Soviet, India, Vietnamese post-WWII you'll no doubt ignore also. Won't even bother mentioning Korea ('50) or Vietnam ('60's) as you will no doubt believe they were/are freedom fighters. You really need to allow yourself growth and accept nuance in your world view. It's not always US bad - other side good. You really need to allow yourself growth and accept nuance in your world view. It's not always US bad - other side good. You're right, US is much better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Ukraine 2014. Very serious list. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 minute ago, akd said: Ukraine 2014. Very serious list. Yugoslavia 1999-2000. Very serious list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) For all his flaws and he has many, he's dead right that Russia, if beaten, will come back within a decade. Never trust a Scumbag. Edited April 19, 2023 by Kinophile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Ales Dvorak said: You really need to allow yourself growth and accept nuance in your world view. It's not always US bad - other side good. You're right, US is much better. Dude, c’Mon. There are a lot of factual errors here. Afghanistan in the 80s? You mean support to the mujahideen? Ok, technically I guess. A lot of these were proxy actions during the Cold War against Soviet influence (would like to see that list with the same very liberal metrics). Some of these like Iraq ‘91 were UN coalition operations. I mean I like US-bashing day as much as the next guy but this is not credible research. It is starting with a premise and then working back to try and shape facts to prove it. Yugoslavia in 99-00? It wasn’t even a country by then, it was a bunch of fracture states. Serbia, maybe, because the world was a so much better place with Milosevic in power? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 I will take one from column A, two from column B, and why not three from volume C. BTW, why no 5th column? That's only for special guests? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Ales Dvorak said: You're right, US is much better. Chart from Chicago Young Socialists club, or similar institution with deep knowledge of the region I presume? Oh wait, William Blum, pal of Chomsky himself. Now that is rock solid, unbiased source. Remember folks- it is proper revolution only when some matusalem from western "pacifist" academic left officially certify it. Otherwise it is just another CIA coup attempt made by some clueless peasants on local government, which only tried to defend itself (well, perhaps slightly too harsh, but there can be no omlet without breaking some eggs, right? wink wink). Btw. poor Fiji. Edited April 19, 2023 by Beleg85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1760071/Russia-Scandinavia-ghost-ships-war-sabotage First I have heard of this in the context of the current war. Probably just feasibility operations. But it's an interesting read. Modern day Vikings going at it in small ships. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, akd said: Ukraine 2014. Very serious list. Don't forget France and Australia made the list too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 7:24 AM, Haiduk said: Russian tank, driving across Maryinka was struck by FPV drone, armed with PG-7 HEAT projectile, but likely the hit was in ERA block - tank has survived and continued own mission. We now have the point of view from the FPV drone. Crazy war. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, Beleg85 said: Chart from Chicago Young Socialists club, or similar institution with deep knowledge of the region I presume? Oh wait, William Blum, pal of Chomsky himself. Now that is rock solid, unbiased source. Remember folks- it is proper revolution only when some matusalem from western "pacifist" academic left officially certify it. Otherwise it is just another CIA coup attempt made by some clueless peasants on local government, which only tried to defend itself (well, perhaps slightly too harsh, but there can be no omlet without breaking some eggs, right? wink wink). Btw. poor Fiji. If people are going to ask me to stay on topic, everyone else should as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said: We now have the point of view from the FPV drone. Crazy war. Curiously, cope cages seem to be not entirely out of place- it is quite possible if drone operator made small mistake he could get stuck on it. Both sides seem to be puting similar devices now even on self-propelled guns and static bunkers. They can at least provide some comfort against FPV or loitering munitions. Perhaps we shouldn't laugh from famous Belarussian tank heat trap in the end either. 6 minutes ago, Jiggathebauce said: If people are going to ask me to stay on topic, everyone else should as well. This is on the Ukrainian topic and everybody seem to be ok to discuss this freely, but you are right ofc. Let's get back to more military matters, these generalistic checks which state has more dirt on the boots are rarely productive in the end. Edited April 19, 2023 by Beleg85 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Oooohhhhhhhhh...... Let's say two weeks to get integrate and position, then another two weeks of making Russian pilots shot themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jiggathebauce said: If people are going to ask me to stay on topic, everyone else should as well. You ask too much of us, sir! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshoot Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said: We now have the point of view from the FPV drone. Crazy war. It's interesting to see the video feed from the FPV drone in this case and how it breaks up before contact because we know the FPV successfully hit the target and exploded. Earlier in this thread comments were made that maybe this video effect was added to the video to hide a miss by the FPV. It seems, however, like it is an integral aspect of at least some FPVs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbindc Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, Peregrine said: Don't forget France and Australia made the list too. Amazing. Can't believe they didn't include the British Crown Colonies...1776 to 1784. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbindc Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jiggathebauce said: If people are going to ask me to stay on topic, everyone else should as well. This is a completely fair comment. While I enjoy the more outré takes on global history we're seeing lately it's getting rather too...well, outré. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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