Kraft Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Quote Right now, on all Internet resources, you can see news about “Ukrainian DRGs” who killed children, took hostages, but, at the same time, hurriedly left, and so on. All this is a lie of the Kremlin propagandists. The Russian Volunteer Corps came to the Bryansk region to show their compatriots that there is hope, that free Russian people with weapons in their hands can fight the regime. P.S. A little later we will share with you a refutation film about our adventures. This is the statement from the actual Russian Volunteer corps. t.me/ russvolcorps 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Short summary- it seems there is a rift between various groups of Russian volunteers there, and these responsible are smaller hardcore goup. Also, I previously missed fact that RVC and Russian Legion are two separate entities fighting under different banners and with different ideologies; the fact they are supervised is true, however; ethnic Russians cannot bear arms in service of Ukraine just like that) Edited March 2, 2023 by Beleg85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Beleg85 said: Short summary- it seems there is a rift between various groups of Russian volunteers there, and these responsible are smaller hardcore goup. Also, I previously missed fact that RVC and Russian Legion are two separate entities fighting under different banners and with different ideologies; the fact they are supervised is true, however; ethnic Russians cannot bear arms in service of Ukraine just like that) So an allegiately drug dealing lunatic is trying to do his own thing here? Begs the question how he managed to travel the at least 100 km from the ukrainian border to Bryansk without getting any prior support from Ukraine? I guess there is more to this which might be revealed the next days. Edited March 2, 2023 by DesertFox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, DesertFox said: So an allegiately drug dealing lunatic is trying to do his own thing here? Begs the question how he managed to travel the at least 100 km from the ukrainian border to Bryansk without getting any prior support from Ukraine? I guess there is more to this which might be revealed the next days. The group is under direct auspices of Ukrainian intelligence (their TG channel has photos from for example Snake Island). While consisting of various fishy far-right folks, it's very hard to believe they acted on their own. All in all, it does look like it may end as relatively minor incident. Probably even Putin would need something on the scale of Budionnovsk or Bieslan to escalate into full-fledged war. Not that it would matter much, as he already run out of conventional options anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Official reaction of GUR (Intelligence Directorate): https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2023/03/2/7391687/ Translation: So called Russian Federation is absolutely unstable creation with colossal number of inner conflicts - between nationals, social, politic. And really such developments take place - this syas about confrontation inside Russian Federation itself between it citizens. Statements of RVC testifies that probably peoples of Russia begin to wake up against bloody Putin's dictatorship. As it's knowingle from RVK statement they fight not against civil population, but against Putin's regime And recall RVC statement on the video: "We are calling you to take the arms in your hand to fight with Putin's Kremlin bloody regime" We have seen first probe in realization of strategy of creation of "uncertainty" (C) The_CAPT inside Russia, which should lead to inner turmoils and in best case to collapse of Russia and creation on its remains several national states. Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beleg85 said: The group is under direct auspices of Ukrainian intelligence (their TG channel has photos from for example Snake Island). While consisting of various fishy far-right folks, it's very hard to believe they acted on their own. All in all, it does look like it may end as relatively minor incident. Probably even Putin would need something on the scale of Budionnovsk or Bieslan to escalate into full-fledged war. Not that it would matter much, as he already run out of conventional options anyway. Yep. Just for starters, look at the immaculate state of their uniforms, gear and boots. I know how you look like after 72 hours out in the wild under combat conditions. No way those pics are for real. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DesertFox said: So an allegiately drug dealing lunatic is trying to do his own thing here? Begs the question how he managed to travel the at least 100 km from the ukrainian border to Bryansk without getting any prior support from Ukraine? I guess there is more to this which might be revealed the next days. The group entered not to Briansk city, but to the border village Liubechane (also was information about Sushany village some SW) of Briansk oblast Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 @HaidukA more out there idea could be FSB penetration of the group and suggestion of this little jaunt. SBU isnt exactly clean as a whistle, even now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 AP picked up the topic: Russia claims Ukraine crossborder sabotage raid; Kyiv denies | AP News 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Kinophile said: @HaidukA more out there idea could be FSB penetration of the group and suggestion of this little jaunt. SBU isnt exactly clean as a whistle, even now. They subordinated to GUR. And what profit of FSB "false flag" with a raid on small village? Russia lost Kherson, which they claimed as "new Russian land" with all concequences if this land is attacked. And what? Where nukes? %) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 One guys opinion on the state of Putin's economy: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-deripaska-warns-russia-may-093939089.html Deripaska: Even with many of the world’s biggest economies arrayed against Russia, it still retains access to markets with a population of 4.5 billion and accounting for $30 trillion of global gross domestic product, he said. “We thought we were a European country,” Deripaska said. “Now, for the next 25 years, we will think more about our Asian past.” Well if Russia is looking east, good "riddins". And don't forget to take your conscripts with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) One of the guys in the Brjansk pics is this "marvel" of mankind. Article in german but google gets the job done for you: Rechtsextremer Kampfsportler: Der Neonazi-Krieger aus Moskau - DER SPIEGEL and retweet by Bellingcat: Edited March 2, 2023 by DesertFox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Important remark. Despite we have full-scale war, Ukriane officially claimed only "martial law", but not "state of war". As if because of western governments pressure - this state gives to Ukraine legal opportunity to invade on territory of agressor. But... "you shouldn't escalate". So, you can and further see new strikes at Russian objects, new public raids and diversions, made by "Belarusian partisans" of "Russian Volunteers", but our officials will officially deny all this. You can recall official Kyiv didn't recognize no one strike. Official position - "they just smoked in not appropriate place" Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 11 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: Hey, when you live in an country that acts like a supernatural evil force, why not brand a line of clothing to match? I bring to you... Mordor Tactical combat clothing: https://mordor-tac.com/ Steve Nylon/cotton blends, the cheap stuff. It's crap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Haiduk said: They subordinated to GUR. And what profit of FSB "false flag" with a raid on small village? Russia lost Kherson, which they claimed as "new Russian land" with all concequences if this land is attacked. And what? Where nukes? %) Putin loves himself an utterly ridiculous false flag op... It's the addiction he can't give up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Attack (?) on A-50 on Machulishchi airfield. Maybe it will be more footage, but for now - the drone just approaches to A-50, lands on antenna, waits something and... flies back. Strange "attack" with "two explosions". Though at least it is possible to sneak inside guarded airfield perimeter %) Today's A-50 take off from Machulishchi. Unknown for mission or to repair Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Heavy discussion: is this "death ray" was PARM or ATGM ? ))) Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Have not heard this one before: The third reason is a matter of practicality. The sheer distance between China’s industrial base and the Ukrainian battlefield is substantial. Russia would likely need China’s high-tech communication, battlefield management equipment and relatively lightweight weapons. These kinds of weapons require trained technicians and integration into Russian systems. Transporting large amounts of equipment and personnel would require air transport or rail. Any amount of equipment that would make a difference would require supply lines that would have to be protected. It’s a daunting task that demands much more involvement than many think. Understand the distances, but how would supply lines be threatened? https://geopoliticalfutures.com/china-and-russia/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Heavy discussion: is this "death ray" was PARM or ATGM ? ))) Hit by HEAT shell coming in from the right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Recce flight to the A-50 at Minsk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bulletpoint said: Hit by HEAT shell coming in from the right? Too fast as for me for ATGM. DM-22 also shoots own charge. There usual practice since late ATO times - to set Claimor-type and now also PARM mines with drones at the night. Edited March 2, 2023 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Heavy discussion: is this "death ray" was PARM or ATGM ? ))) Uncontained shaped charge explosion (projectile came from right side and detonated on one of the soldiers). Impossible to tell if ATGM or gun-launched HEAT because of low quality. Edited March 2, 2023 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Haiduk said: Too fas as for me for ATGM. DM-22 also shot own charge. There usual practice since late ATO times - to set Claimor-type and now also PARM mines with drones at the night. I was thinking it might have been a tank fired shell? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bulletpoint said: I was thinking it might have been a tank fired shell? Then the object in right low corner flies too slow. SPG-9 shoot as variant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigb Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just some background1. The whole idea of these kind of Russians migrating to Ukraine smells like an FSB plot. Ukrainians are khokkhols, subhumans similar to Jews. Ukraine is also filled with Jews. Previous Prime Minister is Jewish, as is the present President. You fight for Ukraine - you fight under the direction of a Jew. Ukraine is hardly the first place they would look to flee to. Unless they get an offer from the FSB. But in Ukraine they received another offer they couldn't refuse. This time from UKR security services. Both sides are pleased, the FSB since they sent some RU Nuts to Ukraine. UKR services because they turned these Nuts into double agents. 2. The original word circulating around RU was that 80 guys shot up a school bus (probably full of children), then stormed the village and captured 100 hostages. They are surrounded by RU security forces. It is almost like Beslan. Strange coincidence: the time of the incident coincided with the time the RU school bus takes up children. And someone in RU media knew right away that something had happened with the school bus and that this information did not need to be buried. The FSB's fingerprints are all over it. That's why I believe originally it was FSB False Flag operation. But then it was modified a bit by SBU/GUR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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