dan/california Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 ~50 kilometers from Nova Kakhovka. One more push and the 155 starts raining down on the dam in quantity. I still predict that the entire Russian position on the right bank will roll up like a rug when that happens. Assuming the Russians aren't already evacuating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Artkin said: I would like to restress the corruption of our politicians. We spend 900 Billion Dollars on our military every single year. Russia is 1 of 2 challengers of peace, and is currently close to defeat. It was paid for with a pitiful fraction of this enormous amount of money. Hear hear! F YES! Way to cut thru the nonsense Artkin! What they heck is the dang military budget for if not for what is happening right now. And we are blessed that we can do this w/o US citizens dying. Worth every cent. Putin chose to threaten the world in the stupidest way possible and thus we are able to fight back in a very direct way. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, Artkin said: I would like to restress the corruption of our politicians. We spend 900 Billion Dollars on our military every single year. Russia is 1 of 2 challengers of peace, and is currently close to defeat. It was paid for with a pitiful fraction of this enormous amount of money. The stuff going "bang" at the pointy end is rounding error. Making it so that stuff can be there to go "bang" at the right place at the right time for an enormous range of possibilities isn't cheap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, sburke said: yeah but do you still have the Billy and the Boingers vinyl? I think I do, but maybe we should just end this off topic line of discussion? Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Anti-War Russians Sabotage Railways, Could Face Execution (msn.com) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, dan/california said: BANG! Watching this makes me wonder why we haven't seen more attacks on munitions dumps? You'd think the way Russians leave things out in the open that drone bombers would easily find them, have fun attacking them, and have even more fun posting the videos. Yet I've seen way, way, way, way more bombing of 1-2 guys in a foxhole or trench than taking out piles of munitions. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, sburke said: Anti-War Russians Sabotage Railways, Could Face Execution (msn.com) Heartbreaking. Courage and doing the right thing and paying the ultimate price for it. Sophie Scholl, 2022-Russian version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, dan/california said: ~50 kilometers from Nova Kakhovka. One more push and the 155 starts raining down on the dam in quantity. I still predict that the entire Russian position on the right bank will roll up like a rug when that happens. Assuming the Russians aren't already evacuating. Ukrainian positions along the Dnepr are already about 35km from the dam, which means they are already on the edge of being able to hit departure areas with artillery fire. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Watching this makes me wonder why we haven't seen more attacks on munitions dumps? You'd think the way Russians leave things out in the open that drone bombers would easily find them, have fun attacking them, and have even more fun posting the videos. Yet I've seen way, way, way, way more bombing of 1-2 guys in a foxhole or trench than taking out piles of munitions. Steve My first guess is that it is a range thing mostly. The quad copters that do most of the dropping just can't get far enough behind the FEBA. Maybe this one happened as the Russians were getting pushed back somewhere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, chrisl said: The stuff going "bang" at the pointy end is rounding error. Making it so that stuff can be there to go "bang" at the right place at the right time for an enormous range of possibilities isn't cheap. I think he was being critical of the overall size of the defense budget per se, but the politicians trying to gain partisan favor by screaming and yelling about a rounding error in that budget. When the Tea Party movement started here in the US we had some numbnuts stand up in a local town meeting and drone on and on about a 300% increase in some line item of the municipal budget. Shame on the town government for doing this to the people at time when people's finances were stretched thing!!! He repeatedly mentioned the 300% and alluded to it being just one example of poor management of the taxpayer's money. Three things he deliberately left out: 1. The amount of increase was about $500, which was about 0.000142% of the overall budget. Probably 25 cents or so from each taxpayer. Wooooooo... big stuff! 2. The entire amount of the increase happened due to an accounting consolidation of two accounts into one. Which meant there was an offset to that 300% rise elsewhere in the budget that he didn't want to mention for obvious reasons. 3. Even more pathetic, if you added up the two line items from the previous year and compared it to the year he was complaining about, the net was a decrease from the previous year. This guy was a well known agitator. He knew damned well that he was lying. When it was pointed out that he had completely misstated reality he didn't respond with an apology, but instead a letter to the editor of the local paper repeating his lies. That's exactly the sort of person that is convincing people to be opposed to sending money to Ukraine. The right seems to be getting more traction, but of course there's a fringe on the left that has similar problems. Though, to be fair to the left, they would like to see the whole defense budget zeroed out so at least they are being consistent with larger goals Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said: Interesting that the Ukrainians appear to see or hear the drone in time to run away (EDIT: in the FH70 video) A 12 kg drone with a push prop coming at you with 300 km/h is not exactly silent. I guess it will be a bit louder than an average RC plane. So there is a good chance that you can hear the thing and have a few seconds to react (if there is not too much noise around you). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 How Ukrainian soldiers cook on positions, when situation allows to do this ) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Switzerland bars Germany from delivering 12k pieces of ammo for the Gepard to Ukraine because of her neutrality. https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-schweiz-untersagt-deutschland-lieferung-von-gepard-munition-a-0c124c66-4b6a-4a97-9351-42886f172ae2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Haiduk said: How Ukrainian soldiers cook on positions, when situation allows to do this ) Drop small samples in the mobik trenches by drone. There might mass surrenders. 1 minute ago, poesel said: Switzerland bars Germany from delivering 12k pieces of ammo for the Gepard to Ukraine because of her neutrality. https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-schweiz-untersagt-deutschland-lieferung-von-gepard-munition-a-0c124c66-4b6a-4a97-9351-42886f172ae2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, poesel said: Switzerland bars Germany from delivering 12k pieces of ammo for the Gepard to Ukraine because of her neutrality. https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-schweiz-untersagt-deutschland-lieferung-von-gepard-munition-a-0c124c66-4b6a-4a97-9351-42886f172ae2 time to start dealing with Swiss banking laws then. How neutral are they really? hhmmm 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, poesel said: Switzerland bars Germany from delivering 12k pieces of ammo for the Gepard to Ukraine because of her neutrality. https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/krieg-in-der-ukraine-schweiz-untersagt-deutschland-lieferung-von-gepard-munition-a-0c124c66-4b6a-4a97-9351-42886f172ae2 Switzerlands neutrality is a load of crap. In WW2 they were bombed by the US after shooting down aircraft flying over their territory. They always seem to play cards in their favor, for their benefit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Ukrainian positions along the Dnepr are already about 35km from the dam, which means they are already on the edge of being able to hit departure areas with artillery fire. Steve Due West from Nova Kakhovka would expose the guns to far less counter battery fire though. Virtually nothing the Russians have on the left side of the river would be able to shoot back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Artkin said: . They always seem to play cards in their favor, for their benefit. Well, yes? Is there a country that doesn't? It takes a special kind of bias to find a problem with shooting down unknown warplanes flying over your own country during a war that has consumed all your neighbours (and the bombings were due to some top notch navigation among the air crews, not a matter of policy) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Haiduk said: How Ukrainian soldiers cook on positions, when situation allows to do this ) Looks like they're also creating salmonella grenade biological weapon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Because mobilization is going so well?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Beleg85 said: They are probably mocking local Chech border guards with this funny device. Very interesting news from Kherson. It looks like UA military is very cautious and sceptical, this may be rotation of troops or a trap for attackers. It is doubtful Russians created a lot of defensive areas just to leave them there. For now working thesis is that Moskals rotate troops, abandon some checkpoints and regoup defences for something less logistically demanding. From LosArmour forum - as if elements of Russian 56th air-assault brigade, defending Pravdyne village (SW from Kherson), have received an order for "regrouping" (means "withdrawing") Next RUMINT - as if a representative of building company, which hired by Russia for works in future "buffer zone" on left bank of Dnieper told, that full withdrawal of Russian troops will happen up to 15th November 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, JonS said: Well, yes? Is there a country that doesn't? It takes a special kind of bias to find a problem with shooting down unknown warplanes flying over your own country during a war that has consumed all your neighbours (and the bombings were due to some top notch navigation among the air crews, not a matter of policy) Bias? The only "bias" I know of is Switzerland allowing Nazi troop + equipment trains through their territory. Selling arms to Germany + Italy. They stopped targeting German planes after sanctions/war was threatened. But they never stopped targeting USAF or RAF planes. Switzerland was biased. There is plenty of information available online. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Artkin said: There is plenty of information available online. Lol - are you telling me to "do my own research"? Yeah, right-oh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamEndedAllen Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, danfrodo said: Hear hear! F YES! Way to cut thru the nonsense Artkin! What they heck is the dang military budget for if not for what is happening right now. And we are blessed that we can do this w/o US citizens dying. Worth every cent. Putin chose to threaten the world in the stupidest way possible and thus we are able to fight back in a very direct way. Well he has a point. All those superior weapon systems that are regularly developed - and consume all those Billions and Billions of dollars - could easily have been developed for free by hobbyists in their garages. Technology is extremely simple, testing is obviously unnecessary, and of course private enterprise production lines and wages are old fashioned. Who needs them really, because Russia isn’t really a threat. Right? And China? China? Um, yes. They make things we buy. Can’t be a threat either. Budget problem now solved! Edited November 3, 2022 by NamEndedAllen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Artkin said: Bias? The only "bias" I know of is Switzerland allowing Nazi troop + equipment trains through their territory. Selling arms to Germany + Italy. They stopped targeting German planes after sanctions/war was threatened. But they never stopped targeting USAF or RAF planes. Switzerland was biased. There is plenty of information available online. That would be a very un-German thing to do, but this ammo should just disappear from the store and never be found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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