Bulletpoint Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) I've noticed lately that bazookas and panzerschrecks don't seem to get fired against infantry any more.There was some discussion about this, a while ago, with some people being annoyed that their AT-weapons were being wasted against infantry.Well, it seems they don't fire them against infantry any more, at least not in my latest two games. I think they still fire them when given a direct target order, but the time of having to remember to give each AT-team a short covered arc just to prevent them from wasting rockets sems to be over...?If so, thumbs up BattleFront Edited February 14, 2016 by Bulletpoint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Yeah i noticed this too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Well, I had the impression, even with a direct target order my Panzerschreck did not fire on infantry.Which I would find strange. Firing on infantry may not be the first choice, but can be very handy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I find it depends on how much ammo the teams are carrying. If they have lots, they'll pop a few rounds off at some infantry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Might it also depend on the cover of the infantry? I tried to ambush infantry in hedgerows with a schreck team, and they used their rifle and pistol instead. Later, my opponent fired some bazooka rounds into a house that I had vacated, so seems like area fire in some circumstances fires rockets - maybe because it was against a building? Which would make great sense.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 In the tourney I had a shreck guy fire his last round against infantry to good effect, so I think the AI is still using rounds when it feels the need. It was last turn of game so I was not too bothered and it did contribute to an exciting last fews seconds.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Maybe they just tweaked the AI's decision to use it or not then. Several times I saw them pack away the rocket launcher to fire a pistol instead. which came as a surprise to me, as I had assumed I could do a rocket ambush and then withdraw before the suppression wore off.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Has there been a patch that I missed then? Cos AI tweaks don't just magically propagate from Charles' nutrient fluid... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Has there been a patch that I missed then? Cos AI tweaks don't just magically propagate from Charles' nutrient fluid...Who knows, it's possible that I could be wrong about my observations or it might have been a tweak in the 3.11 patch that wasn't mentioned in the change log.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Does the bazooka or schrek even have an HE explosion on impact? I thought it was just a shaped charge that didn't produce the HE stuff. Edited February 25, 2016 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Does the bazooka or schrek even have an HE explosion on impact? I thought it was just a shaped charge that didn't produce the HE stuff.Both launchers fire a HEAT round which does include a high explosive.The Panzerschreck fires an 88mm shell and the bazooka a 60mm shell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) I knew the mm, just not that it did the splash damage.. With that said does HE create more splash damage hitting soft dirt or a hard metal tank? Edited February 25, 2016 by user1000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 With that said does HE create more splash damage hitting soft dirt or a hard metal tank?Hmmm, good question. I'd be inclined to guess that hitting dirt would cause greater injury to nearby personnel due to the explosion throwing up pebbles and chips and other flying debris. Even having sand blown into your eyes at nearly the speed of sound could be disabling.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) It used to be quite deadly against infantry in the game at least. If this is realistic I can't say. But I know it's been discussed before.I wonder if a panzerschreck would even explode on impact with the ground, or if the fuze is only designed to detonate on impact against metal plate? Edited February 25, 2016 by Bulletpoint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Trying to answer my own question, I found this. Not sure if it's reliable, but it says the grenade would self-arm after 3 metres of flight, so could be shot out through foliage but would detonate on impact afterwards. http://www.bergflak.com/psammo.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 geeez guys, aim for the helmets! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 What about the bazooka HEP or HESH rounds? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 This is a tough one for the AI to get right, my most recent battle i was screamming at my schrek team to fire at the cluster of enemy but he would only use his pistol, but more often i want them to save them and wait for an armoured target and not waste them on infantry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 geeez guys, aim for the helmets! Heck, aim for the medals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvmy88 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 They definatly do still fire at infantry much to the ill fate of my men in the amein campagin, took out half the squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 They definatly do still fire at infantry much to the ill fate of my men in the amein campagin, took out half the squad.It just seems to me they do it much less now than they used to.. so it's either been tweaked or I suffer from wishful thinking. Or maybe I just suffer from Murphy's law in that when I want to use it to my own advantage, my schrek teams refuse to fire, instead whipping out a pistol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvmy88 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I have this problem a lot when inf are equiped with fausts, they shoot rifles at the tank rather than shoot a faust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Thought you guys would be all over my CMFB bonus AAR which this last turn, shows a faust fired at a clump of infantry at about 50m range ( 'cos it was a PF60 ).Took out at least one, maybe 2 men, so I'm not complaining 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Thought you guys would be all over my CMFB bonus AAR which this last turn, shows a faust fired at a clump of infantry at about 50m range ( 'cos it was a PF60 ).Took out at least one, maybe 2 men, so I'm not complaining Haven't been following the AAR, but I think firing panzerfäuste against infantry is a bit silly really.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 ...I think firing panzerfäuste against infantry is a bit silly really..Depends. If the infantry are in a building or behind a wall, it might make perfect sense to fire a PF at them. Can't hurt, anyway.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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