lordhedgwich Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 i cant remember if this has been covered or not, but will there be any more for FI? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yep last word was we are still owed a module to go to end of war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yep last word was we are still owed a module to go to end of war. But I wouldn't expect it until after the Bulge Family is well underway at least. Now they might surprise us before then with a Forces Pack to include the French. I think a French Forces pack would be more interesting for CMFI then CMBN with all those exotic troops. IIRC their contribution to the fight was bigger in Italy than it was in Northern France at least up to August/Sept '44. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I really dont want one that goes to the end i was really want them to do north africa sigh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 North Africa would be more fun as it would be a completely different play experience. But, BF would have to make early war models and they are doing WW2 in reverse time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizou Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I wounder how far off the next module is. It feels like they wont do a vehicle pack when there is still room for a module. At the same time it feels like they would want flame units released fairly close to the v3 upgrade. Fingers crossed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper117 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'll buy anything they put out in this theatre... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Fizou, that's a good point. It seems they would want to introduce flame units sooner than later. I have no idea what the overlap between the North Western Europe and Italy would be as far as flame units and others that was offered in the CMBN Vehicle pack, other then man-portable flame throwers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 We have plans for Fortress Italy but there is nothing to officially announce at the moment. North Africa would most likely be a separate product from Fortress Italy, not an expansion of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 We have plans for Fortress Italy but there is nothing to officially announce at the moment. North Africa would most likely be a separate product from Fortress Italy, not an expansion of it. Good to hear chris so far Fortress Italy is my favorite CM game I was super hyped for Red Thunder, but it wasnt what i had hoped for (not that it wasnt good) So im excited to see Battlefront still has plans for it. I hope Battlefront decides to do North Africa I would love to see some earlier war games being made 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yes, I think one of the reasons am enjoying CMSF all over again is that the terrain is so different from the European and East front terrain. Open, long LOS etc. great for armored maneuver... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper117 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 'North Africa would most likely be a separate product from Fortress Italy, not an expansion of it'. Another first day purchase for me if it comes to fruition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 'North Africa would most likely be a separate product from Fortress Italy, not an expansion of it'. Another first day purchase for me if it comes to fruition agree damn BF has soo many options to make a great CM game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If distant memory serves, there's a minor problem in that there's no stand-out campaign to tie a dedicated 'module' around. Lots of fighting of in Italy of course but no one significant well known operation. This implies they'd have to give something more generic. Do the date extension and add the vehicles and other units but no 'Market Garden'-type action to focus exclusively on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 People around hear awhile ago were saying the next one would be called gothic line if i remember 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 People around hear awhile ago were saying the next one would be called gothic line if i remember That would probably be appropriate, but the initials for it would be the same as those for Gustav Line, which would lead to confusion. Might be better to go with Liberation of Rome, or something like that. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 That would probably be appropriate, but the initials for it would be the same as those for Gustav Line, which would lead to confusion. Might be better to go with Liberation of Rome, or something like that. Michael Well i was reading about the gothic line (very briefly) and i got the assumption that italians were part of the gothic lines defense. I had asked before why no scenarios in Gustav line had italians in them and someone had said they werent really fighting on main land italy. If one of you arm chair historians wants to enlighten me feel free:p 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASL Veteran Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well i was reading about the gothic line (very briefly) and i got the assumption that italians were part of the gothic lines defense. I had asked before why no scenarios in Gustav line had italians in them and someone had said they werent really fighting on main land italy. If one of you arm chair historians wants to enlighten me feel free:p Mussolini was tossed out of power by the King sometime during the battle for Sicily. A new government was formed and, because Italy was lousy with Germans, they then pledged undying allegiance to Germany. The new Italian government made secret attempts to negotiate surrender with the allies but nobody trusted each other enough to pull something off that was satisfactory to both sides. So just before the invasion of Naples (literally while the invasion force was approaching the coast) the Italians decided to surrender anyway and take their chances. So as a nation, Italy effectively was out of the war before any allied troops landed on mainland Italy. There were still some Italians who fought on with the Germans, but they were not part of the national Italian army. Eventually some Italian formations fought alongside the allies, but they generally weren't given strenuous tasks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 ah i see so there is no chance of new scenarios with italians? shame its a challenge being them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 To bring it back to games terms: Strange, I learned that questionable morale (as one may expect with Italian troops in Italy), does not play a role in CM. I still dare to say, that the will makes a difference. One may have the experience and the skills and still lack the resolution to continue. Or, to make it short, I have the impression, the Italians are over rated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASL Veteran Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 To bring it back to games terms: Strange, I learned that questionable morale (as one may expect with Italian troops in Italy), does not play a role in CM. I still dare to say, that the will makes a difference. One may have the experience and the skills and still lack the resolution to continue. Or, to make it short, I have the impression, the Italians are over rated. Morale is set on a scale by the scenario / campaign designer from poor to fanatic IIRC (poor, low, normal, high, and fanatic). So if you want Italians that run at the first sight of an enemy soldier just set their morale to poor in whatever scenario you want to make. So morale does play a role, it is simply controlled by the designer as opposed to an automatic across the board game added penalty that may or may not reflect reality depending upon the circumstances and situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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