Lethaface

And here's the first look at where this is all going down - this is a pretty magnificent map ( I tried to make a small map once and it was a fairly miserable effort, hence my admiration for well made maps knows no bounds ).
Looking North ( my deployment zone is top left )

Looking South

Another view South ( just a bit to the right of the above shot ) showing what I like to think of as an abandoned archaeological dig site.

Rolling hills - check.
LOS nightmare - check

Well folks, here we are again. Your favourite ( I hope ) underdog is once again risking everything ( because I have a named unit on map  ) against Bil, the evil genius.
This battle is essentially a classic Meeting engagement between our recon elements and will escalate as our main forces enter later.
Bil and I are both using forces from 2 nations and the makeup is essentially the same:
Each nation has a platoon of mechanised recon and an infantry company with a couple of attached tanks.
The battle area will also have some local guys, some of whom are on our side and some who have been seduced to the dark side.
In my case, I am fielding elements from the UK and Germany.
The battle is set up ( thanks to George MC ) as follows :
Turn 0:
Scouts - on-map in the set-up zone at the start:
British recce platoon (Scimitars);
German Aufklaring platoon (Fenneks).
Turn 5 Advance Guard:
2 x Leopards;
German PzGr Company HQ and Obs section and the 1st Platoon (Marders);
Artillery ( some 105's ) and on-map mortars;
Myself as the German body HQ - performing a classic c3k manoeuver by waiting until it's safe.
Turn 10 Main Body:
2 x Challengers;
Brit Arm.Inf company (all elements) - Primarily infantry mounted in Warriors.
Turn 15 Rear Guard:
Remainder of the German PzGr company - 2nd and 3rd Platoons (Marders).
Bear in mind that I've never played CMSF1 and barely touched on CMBS due to my preference for WWII.
So I am ignorant of many of the weapons systems and their capabilities.
Just pointing out how underdoggy I am ( gotta get the excuses in early - yeah, I learned that from c3k too !  ).

CMSF including all it's content is still the CMx2 game I played the most and has a reserved a special spot in my game slots, as it was the game that got me into combat mission. Sublime mentioned Paper Tiger's Red on Red campaign (rightly so imo), there is a lot of Red on Red possibilities in CMSF. Simulating the Syrian conflict is very well possible. Plus there are Marines, Brits, Germans, Canadians and last but not least the Dutch 😉 for BLUE. Getting all that content in 4.0 engine is worth it alone for me. 
Edit to add: Syrian SF with their RPG-29s and AT-14, coupled with T-90s and BMP-3s are quite decent even H2H when up against BLUE. Coupled with appropriate mission parameters (and objectives for Blue & RED) defensive terrain, suitable strategy and tactics Red can really take the fight to BLUE.
One of my best, most intense and fun h2h fights was with the Syrian SF against Gleb O. as US (I forgot his forum name, something with 88's in it), a worthy and classy opponent. Not sure if we finished the game to the end but it was sure fun as hell using mech heavy Syrian SF and T-90s in guerilla tactics against the US. Hiding portable AT-13s in highrise buildings facing my side, waiting until they got flank/rear shots on enemy armor and then rushing in a platoon of T-90s gives some nice fireworks. Expecting and accepting to lose all assets gives birth to a whole new crate of tactics when compared to BLUE or even CMBS Red forces. I like it.
Anyway it's an upgrade of CMSF, not a brand new game or game engine AFAIK, so I wouldn't expect new features etc.
 

CMSF including all it's content is still the CMx2 game I played the most and has a reserved a special spot in my game slots, as it was the game that got me into combat mission. Sublime mentioned Paper Tiger's Red on Red campaign (rightly so imo), there is a lot of Red on Red possibilities in CMSF. Simulating the Syrian conflict is very well possible. Plus there are Marines, Brits, Germans, Canadians and last but not least the Dutch 😉 for BLUE. Getting all that content in 4.0 engine is worth it alone for me. 
Edit to add: Syrian SF with their RPG-29s and AT-14, coupled with T-90s and BMP-3s are quite decent even H2H when up against BLUE. Coupled with appropriate mission parameters (and objectives for Blue & RED) defensive terrain, suitable strategy and tactics Red can really take the fight to BLUE.
One of my best, most intense and fun h2h fights was with the Syrian SF against Gleb O. as US (I forgot his forum name, something with 88's in it), a worthy and classy opponent. Not sure if we finished the game to the end but it was sure fun as hell using mech heavy Syrian SF and T-90s in guerilla tactics against the US. Hiding portable AT-13s in highrise buildings facing my side, waiting until they got flank/rear shots on enemy armor and then rushing in a platoon of T-90s gives some nice fireworks. Expecting and accepting to lose all assets gives birth to a whole new crate of tactics when compared to BLUE or even CMBS Red forces. I like it.
Anyway it's an upgrade of CMSF, not a brand new game or game engine AFAIK, so I wouldn't expect new features etc.
 

all i know is I'd be happy as a pig in $hit if Paper Tigers AWESOME Road to Dinas red on red Syrian civil war campaigns redone..
@The_MonkeyKing cmsf 1 had a blue on blue nato scenario. iirc it was germans and dutch vs us/canadians.
i could be totally wrong about that. heh. (who vs who) 

You are right about aerospace being the exception. When I was teaching nuclear engineering at NC State, our research reactor, besides doing lots of esoteric research,  also did a side business in NDT by "x-raying" (Not really x-rays but close enough for the layman's purpose)  EVERY turbine blade that was eventually going into GE jet engines. EVERY SINGLE ONE. 
As we've so recently seen, the effects of a mechanical failure inside a jet engine can be deadly to catastrophic. And a sheared off, high velocity turbine blade getting loose from the confines of the engine cowling is about as bad as it gets.
One of the few cases where statistics to determine a representative sample are not used. The risks of even one faulty blade are much too high.
I"m sure Rolls-Royce does something similar. When I was working in England, we had to make occasional trips for meetings at Rolls-Royce in Derby. We were there for reactor design, but right next door in the same factory complex was jet engine manufacture and testing. They do a destructive test on the occasional engine where they explosively sheer off 3 turbine blades simultaneously on an engine in a test stand that's running at full throttle. It's absolutely amazing to watch. The goal is that no part of that engine can escape from the engine cowling when that happens. I have to say, seeing that test, and knowing the work our reactor group did at NCSU gave me a feeling of confidence that everything possible is being done to ensure the quality and integrity of jet engines. And yes, that drives up the cost tremendously. Worth every penny, in my opinion.
[edit]  Cool, found one. Here's the destruction test of an A380 engine. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j973645y5AA
Apologies for straying a mite off topic

Ah yes, apple. It 'just works' like that I guess. 😁
Steam is quite handy for storing licenses, updates, etc. Basically it's very user friendly, at least to most users. 🤣
I don't see the point of discussing CM on steam though. People in the know decide what's best for the company. I'm no BF shareholder so I'm not even going to contemplate second guessing BF.C business decisions like these.
Would I like CM on steam? Yes, why not would be easy for me. 
Does it really matter to me? Nah

Well, it's damn near unanimous! If given the choice between Afrika Korps and Early War Europe,  Fulda Gap would win!
 
Mord.

Ah yes, apple. It 'just works' like that I guess. 😁
Steam is quite handy for storing licenses, updates, etc. Basically it's very user friendly, at least to most users. 🤣
I don't see the point of discussing CM on steam though. People in the know decide what's best for the company. I'm no BF shareholder so I'm not even going to contemplate second guessing BF.C business decisions like these.
Would I like CM on steam? Yes, why not would be easy for me. 
Does it really matter to me? Nah

Ah yes, apple. It 'just works' like that I guess. 😁
Steam is quite handy for storing licenses, updates, etc. Basically it's very user friendly, at least to most users. 🤣
I don't see the point of discussing CM on steam though. People in the know decide what's best for the company. I'm no BF shareholder so I'm not even going to contemplate second guessing BF.C business decisions like these.
Would I like CM on steam? Yes, why not would be easy for me. 
Does it really matter to me? Nah

Ah yes, apple. It 'just works' like that I guess. 😁
Steam is quite handy for storing licenses, updates, etc. Basically it's very user friendly, at least to most users. 🤣
I don't see the point of discussing CM on steam though. People in the know decide what's best for the company. I'm no BF shareholder so I'm not even going to contemplate second guessing BF.C business decisions like these.
Would I like CM on steam? Yes, why not would be easy for me. 
Does it really matter to me? Nah

CMSF2 upgraded to game engine 4...cant believe this finally happens.
" I said now I know the answers, “Do dreams come true?” " - Tupac

Lol I was busy trying to formulate something more diplomatic but of similar nature. How can you live with (windows) computers or the internet, when a sudden popup on your screen ruins your day? 😅
 

Or sometime between Halloween and Thanksgiving.

Michael

Lol I was busy trying to formulate something more diplomatic but of similar nature. How can you live with (windows) computers or the internet, when a sudden popup on your screen ruins your day? 😅
 

Thanks for the .pdf. In your summary you have missed 'illegal state repression', which is mentioned in the .pdf. The .pdf also opens with the statement ''Terrorism is a contested concept", rightly so imo. 

To get back to the subject and why I agree with Kozlice: irregular forces supportive of the Iranian regime operating inside Iran against military forces of belligerent nations hostile to Iran, are not to be called terrorists. Whatever the tactics they use, be it kamikaze strikes etc. Besides, when a Syrian in The Netherlands cuts down a few people with a knife while under psychosis he's a terrorist. While if depressed Hendrik-Jan guns down a bunch of people at the mall with a semi-auto rifle, he's just a psycho. Find the differences! 
Anywayz,
For the next CM I would like a modern(ish) ERA with Chinese forces simulated. For example a hypothetical invasion of Taiwan, and a chance for US 'vacationers' (among others) to show up. 

Damn...I am sorry for opening this Pandora's box.
I'm a terrorist, you're a terrorist, we all terrorists. Excpet for man of war under 51, he no terrorist, he a LEXICON

This is a rather comical back and forth.  You two should take this show on the road. 

I know I am being pedantic, but how would anyone be a "terrorist" in that hypothetical conflict? Sorry, but **** that brown-people-hating term

Could be. I've often pictured Emyrs as a nosy bald woman conspiring against the cosmos.
 
Mord.

To a microbe, even a flea is a god. Now bow, oh Emrys of the flatulent keyboard, your Flea Deity commands it!
 
Mord.

There is a simpler answer. . . . . Mord=Steve.   God how could I have missed that?!

Yea, it was disheartening to see that happen.  I'm glad it's disabled.
The Kettlerian Universe is very different from how I perceive reality but I certainly respect John's passion and the wonderful nuggets he finds.  We would likely not get along face-to-face but he merits all the innate social courtesies I can offer as well as the respect of his humanity which is only right.  Viva la difference! 

I think this is by design: if a vehicle is in operation it serves as a working c2 node. When the vehicle is dismounted, it is not in operation and therefore not a functioning c2 node. Troops in vehicles can use the vehicle c2 equipment but if they dismount they have to do with what they carry. From the manual: "Exception: On-map support assets including mortars and howitzers can fire indirect even if they are out of command & control and lack a radio, provided that either the spotter is within 50m or the support asset is next to a vehicle equipped with a radio".

I think this is by design: if a vehicle is in operation it serves as a working c2 node. When the vehicle is dismounted, it is not in operation and therefore not a functioning c2 node. Troops in vehicles can use the vehicle c2 equipment but if they dismount they have to do with what they carry. From the manual: "Exception: On-map support assets including mortars and howitzers can fire indirect even if they are out of command & control and lack a radio, provided that either the spotter is within 50m or the support asset is next to a vehicle equipped with a radio".