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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Huba in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    For anti-ballistic missile defence, PAC-3CRI has a range of only 20km or so. I'm sure you'd want the launchers to be spaced tightly enough so that they can cover one another. For comparison, there's 50km from Bucha to Boryspol Airport, that would be the diameter of the zone you are defending. The batteries have to be located in the city itself, there's no other way.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Huba in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    To be taken with a grain of salt, but here's what GUR thinks about RU monthly missile production is:

    25 Kalibr missiles
    2 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missiles
    35 Kh-101 cruise missiles
    5 ballistic missiles 9M723 Iskander-M"

    Not too shabby, but at the peak of the missile campaign they were firing maybe 5 times as many and failed to achieve success.
    https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1659492405488254977
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to kevinkin in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Well if you add another idiot, there is slapstick joke somewhere. The recommendation is sound.  
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Homo_Ferricus in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Just want to reiterate the end of the article everyone's referring to for clarity, since a few forumgoers are writing as if these three were arrested after yesterday's strikes...
    edited to add bold.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Harmon Rabb in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    The difference between these two images fills me with hope for the future of Ukraine after this war.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Grey_Fox in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    You have LOS, it's just that your spotting checks are being heavily penalized. If you wait long enough the units may spot each other. Even when the target line shows no LOS through trees units can sometimes spot each other. That's why you shouldn't  trust trees to hide your units unless there is a LOT of foliage between you and the enemy.
    At least that's what I think is most likely happening. The lack of 1 to 1 graphical representation of tree canopies make it difficult to know for certain how LOS is being affected in any situation.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Grey_Fox in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    There is some wackiness going on but it is due to the way foliage affects spotting. Judging from your screen shots I suspect LOS is being degraded by tree branches, despite appearances to the contrary and despite what the LOS line says.
    In Combat Mission tree trunks are accurately represented visually but tree canopies are significantly abstracted. In my experience tree canopies are both less opaque and lower to the ground "under the hood" than their visual representation suggests.
    This unintuitiveness is compounded by the target line lacking LOS context. When checking LOS with the target command the LOS line is binary -- you either have it or you don't. But under the hood LOS through trees is non-binary. Tree branches and leaves degrade LOS proportional to how much tree canopy the line passes through "under the hood". The target command line will show clear LOS up to a certain amount of degradation, then at some point will change to show LOS blocked even though spotting is still possible.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to billbindc in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Absolutely asinine. Take Telenko with boulders of salt unless he's talking about wooden pallets.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    You have LOS, it's just that your spotting checks are being heavily penalized. If you wait long enough the units may spot each other. Even when the target line shows no LOS through trees units can sometimes spot each other. That's why you shouldn't  trust trees to hide your units unless there is a LOT of foliage between you and the enemy.
    At least that's what I think is most likely happening. The lack of 1 to 1 graphical representation of tree canopies make it difficult to know for certain how LOS is being affected in any situation.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    There is some wackiness going on but it is due to the way foliage affects spotting. Judging from your screen shots I suspect LOS is being degraded by tree branches, despite appearances to the contrary and despite what the LOS line says.
    In Combat Mission tree trunks are accurately represented visually but tree canopies are significantly abstracted. In my experience tree canopies are both less opaque and lower to the ground "under the hood" than their visual representation suggests.
    This unintuitiveness is compounded by the target line lacking LOS context. When checking LOS with the target command the LOS line is binary -- you either have it or you don't. But under the hood LOS through trees is non-binary. Tree branches and leaves degrade LOS proportional to how much tree canopy the line passes through "under the hood". The target command line will show clear LOS up to a certain amount of degradation, then at some point will change to show LOS blocked even though spotting is still possible.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Butschi in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    Buttoned up.
    Why do you think this is odd? It's really more like a too small sample size. I'm not claiming that what I say is exactly true - in fact, back at university I'd have been flogged for making such bold statements with so little data. I did a "simulation", meaning, "made a dice roll", i.e. I generated a random number, repeatedly, until it was < 0.01 or 0.02, respectively. That is about the order of magnitude (very roughly! I don't know the exact values!) for the spotting probability in the scenario I described (0.02, or 2% for the "simulated" M60). I repeated this 50 times for each "tank". The result looked like this:

    Different histogram but same phenomenon. Long tail for orange and seemingly no tail for blue. Now, exactly same parameters and setup but 5000 "experiments" for each tank.

    Here you see that both have long tails, and if I were to repeat the experiment a million times each, you would probably see that both get events out to 700. Only that orange gets way, way, way more of them. Just by having 1% instead of 2% probability for each dice roll.
    Wish I was the statistics expert, I'm a particle physicist and some statistical data analysis was part of my PhD and later in my job. But in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king, I guess. 😉 What you describe may be unlikely (though that depends on what the actual parameters governing this situation are) but remember this: There are thousands of players out there making thousand upon thousands of dice rolls each day. The probability that someone observes such a situation (and then makes a frustrated post on the forums) is actually not that small.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Chibot Mk IX in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    They are not comparable. On paper Aegis is supposed to have far better performance. See the pic below. Patriot PAC3 is a terminal phase interceptor with very short window of opportunity to intercept SRBM and MRBM (see the blue dots there?), Patriot's speed is too low to work on an IRBM.

     
    The yellow Aegis BMD line in the graphic seems to be representing RIM-161 SM3,  an Exo-atmospheric interceptor.
    As you can see , the right end of the yellow line does not extend to the x-axis, because SM3 doesn’t work in Endo-atmospheric. That makes this graphic a little misleading as the SM2 and SM6, two Endo-atmospheric interceptors deal with terminal phase interception also belong to Aegis BMD. They have better performance compared to Patriot PAC3, although they will have trouble to deal with IRBM.
     
    Put hypersonic weapon hypothesis, Kh-47 kinzhal is just an air launched Iskander SRBM with a limited maneuverability MaRV . It’s flight profile might be very similar to DF-21D and YJ-21 ASBM, but I guess DF-21D is the hardest to be intercepted due to its terminal speed. There is no way for Patriot PAC3 to intercept a DF-26B, an IRBM with anti-ship roles. That’s when you need SM3 to intercept before the RV from the IRBM dive into the terminal phase.
     
    So far there is no indication that the HGV from DF-17 has the anti-ship capability. But due to the HGV’s flight profile, it will make the detection very very hard, and it is also operating on upper edge of the atmosphere so SM3 is useless in the face of this threat. Also due to its flight profile, HGV won’t have a great potential energy to convert into speed at terminal phase, so THAAD and SM6 should be able to intercept that but it is still too fast and maneuver for Patriot PAC3. We don’t have any open source to study on this, this is just my guess
     
    Anyway, the key to successfully intercept a ballistic missile is not about the interceptor missile’s performance, its more about early warning, detection and classification.  There are some discussions on this topic in Matrix game forum CMO section, I can see if I can find the discussion.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Lethaface in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    Back when I was doing this for beta testing I would not submit a result to BFC with less than n=300, but I don't have the patience for it anymore. There is a guy who wrote a program in Python to automate it and would do n=1000 but that's not a skill set I possess.
    Exactly right. I also make sure all spotters are looking at the same thing, i.e. rather than timing the test groups spotting each other I time them spotting an identical third group (I use T-72As as my "target" group in all tests). I also eliminate C2 information sharing by making every unit of the test group in a different battalion and spacing them by more than 32 meters from each other.
    I've never noticed that before, but it would make sense given CM spotting cycles are in 7 second intervals, most of the time.
    BFC has never commented on the long right tails, but they are a consistent feature of the CM spotting model across titles. I mentioned earlier that I have seen results longer than 10 minutes at ranges up to 1000m in CMBN but they are very rare.
    Thanks for running the tests! I would not have been surprised by an even larger M60 advantage given the thermal imager. I picked the RISE+ in my test as I felt that was more apples to apples vis-a-vis the T-72A.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Lethaface in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    I have explained why that is a contrived number. I'm done talking about it.
    Sturm-S vs M60 RISE+ @800 meters. Outliers not excluded.
    Median M60: 29 seconds Sturm: 17.5 seconds Average M60: 29.8 seconds Sturm: 25.5 seconds Since you attach so much meaning to the single largest time, for the Sturm it was 88 seconds.
    That's a 49.4% advantage in median spot time for the Sturm-S. WTF @The_Capt, how do you sleep at night? 😡😡  😡
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to kimbosbread in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    What’s our escalation space?
    For air defense, it would just be more missiles, unless we have friggin space lasers or something.
    For aircraft, it would be modern NATO aircraft or flying tigers (which we should have had in month 3).
    For tanks and ifvs, we are already doing that, though perhaps not in desired quantity.
    For artillery and standoff weapons, already doing but not in quantity and range desired.
    For information, it’s not clear Russians are super vulnerable to information warfare.
    For diplomacy, obvs Transnistria, Belarus, Chechnya, Dagestan etc are very interesting.
    For navy… now there we have some options. Why don’t we lease a Walrus to Ukraine, or have letters of the marque to pursue Russian oil tankers? I could easily rustle up some fellow idiot boaters to go chase tankers off the Barbary coast on a RIB with some RPGs.
    EDIT: Open Wagner Safari would also be an option in Africa, and hurt their cashflow.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Kinophile in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Tux in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Mate… you haven’t lived!
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Bulletpoint in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    A spunky name for an impotent weapon.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Lethaface in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    Well, there is no reason to assume a T-62 has any better spotting than a T-72.
    If you don't like my data, get your own. Otherwise, good luck with your rant.
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from Lethaface in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    I did share an opinion. You just didn't like it. Too bad.
    Personal experience? Well, I have actually done some testing in the past. Nothing extensive, but enough to suggest that the differences in spotting between M60 and T-62 are in the 10-20% range, at least under the testing conditions...
    ... which would be reasonable given the real-world differences I have documented (albeit for T-72):
     
    Thank you. I agree 😆
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from dan/california in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
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    Vanir Ausf B got a reaction from IdontknowhowtodoX in Frustration with CMCW - Russian side   
    The TC had to piss, and no it could not wait.
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to Haiduk in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Fu...k!!!! Sh...t!!! Damn!!! What a hell I just heard at 3:00 of night?! 22 loud explosions not far from of us! And about dozen distant boo-boom... Sh...t!!! Reportedly series of Kinzhals on Kyiv, also there were reports about Kalibrs launches. Well, I want to read good news at the morning
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    Vanir Ausf B reacted to The_Capt in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Heh well we definitely saw this argument coming.  It comes back to how much was a result of “Russia sucking” and how much is due to the impact of modern technology on the battlefield?  Of course conventional militaries are doubling down on what they have, the alternative is truly frightening.  But clearly the politicians can even see what is happening.  
    I am not fully in the “abandon conventional stuff” (e.g tanks p, mech etc) we are likely to see what it can still do once conditions have been properly set.  But I am also not a fan of spending billions on more conventional mass when we really have no idea of it will even work, or worse we have to layer so much defence on it that it prices itself out of existence.  
    I also would not be looking for deep savings or spending cuts, in fact it may very well take spending increases however that money needs to go into the right capabilities, the ones that can ensure wins up to and including peer opponents.  These arguments are going to continue for some time and each side is going to see what they want in what happens next.  I think it will be some time until things become fully clear, but to my eyes after watching this thing at very high resolution for over a year, it is clear that some fundamentals shifted.  Now how much is just a result of this specific war and how much are enduring?
    I will put down very good money that C4ISR, PGM, unmanned and denial systems  are major growth areas no matter what the post game report comes up with.
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