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I haven't read the forums in over a year
Nothing seems to change lol
I usually check once yearly
As you say JPRATT88 they should have a blog or regular update
It helps generate interest and sales which I thought they would be concerned about
Many of the guys I gamed with have stopped playing CMBS over a year ago due to no updates and the fact Russian gear was limited, and bugged vs US
I still play but its generally Russian vs Ukraine games only with 2 guys
cheers

As a long time player of all games in the series Just Upgraded to Ryzen 5 2600x Win 10 64 bit Mem  G skill trident CL14 16 gig 3200mhz ddr4 GeForce gtx1080 8 gig X470 Aorus ultra gaming motherboard Samung Evo SSD ( faster transfer rate drive) 500 gigs   I had been using an 8 year old  Amd Athlon I3  CPU Older Memory ddr3 8 gigs Geforce 1050 Older Mobo Upgraded to SSD 2 years ago   Older System was crashing with cmbs Got an SSD which improved loading and some performance Had to run on lowest settings with my older pc specs A medium map on lowest setting could take a minute to load or longer if lots of action going on in map     My new system I'm playing runs CMBS with all settings maxed out and loads in around 15-20 seconds on a medium sized map same size etc as one I mention above Not sure what the crucial factor is to speed up the old engine  My GPUs fan doesn't spin when running game Stays idle Hardly using the GPUs specs / no heat Combined with my fans cooling system GPU temp stays very low Glad I upgraded It does make a difference to cm Plus I can super multitask with ryzen I also play other main game titles   So if you thinking of upgrading you get  better performance  But don't expect too much with the older graphics engine it was based on   I'm still testing full specs with bigger battle vs lag Haven't seen any so far Just got my new PC a week ago  Cheers Gaz

On the topic
I saw this and found it very interesting
New Russian anti IED mine vehicle
Listva
Operational with Russian nuclear convoys
 
 

Its great we have a new game CMSF2 coming out
However as it is the same engine as CMBS and many of the same weapons will be used in that
I have to ask have the bugs been fixed for these as are present in CMBS?
and Is CMBS going to be patched?
How many of these  weapons systemsare going over to CMSF2?
 
 
Observations from extensive play testing and many ladder games of CMBS since it was released
Take this on board when playing CMSF2
 
USA vehicles 
M1167 Humvee
Must be manually shot - TOW doesn't engage enemy vehicles
 
M1 Tank inconsistent behavior 
With Crack crew and high morale +2 ldr
MI spotted Enemy Rpg unit - M1 fired at them killing one and the Russian survivor ran away
But Tank spends the whole game panicked
M1 runs away from everything whole game - its a joke
In other games I take M1 and it's hit by 5 AT 13s and multiple RPGs etc keeps on going
Morale is fine - they are running same setup as previous example
Has happened in a few games
 
Another game  my M1 is hit in same place - upper front turret just once by At13 and they bail
Its really inconsistent crew behavior sometimes / damage application
I do not use APS on M1 as I find it too over powered and unrealistic
 
I've seen my opponents M1 defeat 11+ AT14 and At13 shots shots with APS after being frontally Armour stripped from my 120mm Artillery and AA Tunguska fire 
The APS still works
 

Russian - Ukraine Kit
 
BRDM 2 (AT-5B)       
Doesn't shoot
( There needs to be a setup where the crew maybe get out - one observes ? the other is in car )
The whole thing doesn't work
Its like the US Humvee TOW
 
Russia Missing there heavy Mg  equivalent  12.7×108mm NSV and KORD ( used in Syria )
Also KORD .50cal
No Modern Russian sniper rifles  -  eg OSV-96 or SVLK-14 Sumrak Twilight (Also Used in Syria )
 
 
Man Portable AT Missile Problems
 
AT13  At 14  AT7 and Skiff  etc  randomly just fly in random bizarre directions
Have used in all terrains
This is constantly occuring
In Open areas with no obstruction to break wire etc
It happens frequently and makes taking AT Infantry vs Tanks in open areas pointless
it happens often making it pointless taking AT weapons only unless in built up areas
You just use RPGs ( most reliable in the game engine )

I see Crews with AT 13 AT7 etc launcher also ran back and forth in building trying to Target tank which was clear to shoot St with Blue Los and lots of windows
They did this for 4 minutes - 4 times after stopping them after each minute
They were spotted and died
Has happened many times - yes i've read heated discussions over AI path mapping etc on this forums but this is shooting
 
Ukraine Corsar randomly goes off in weird directions also
Crew are not suppressed
Doesn't happen as much but happens more then it should
I have games where they work ok and others where every shot missed fired from multiple units
Same Crew experience
 
Russian Grenade Launcher single guy ( unit ) has launcher and cannot deploy
 
He cannot move after his final move point ends
Ukraine And Russian vehicles and in one case a US Bradley
Just sit and stare at enemy and don't shoot ( yes im aware it happens randomly as they dropped there smokes or drink ) but sometimes its just stupid
  Biggest disappointment is RPO-A and M Shmel I took 15 units of these in one urban fight 2 units fired the whole game as squads who were crack or vet panicked when shot at or never fired when not being shot at was a joke They just sat and watched enemy They had great  command etc high motivation Of the two who fired minimal effect on building
They should vapourise people inside building and set it on fire Instead tiny bit of flame and 1-2 guys of enemy 5 man team died and they were shot back at from inside building and they died   As a general comment  I've been playing ladder games with CMBS for a long time Players have been leaving/dropping off our ladder group due to the general bugs with no updates and overpowered US gear and M1 issues Its either super over powered or just stupid with panic etc   Those of us who still play generally only play Russia vs Ukraine games now as a result of the US imbalance
I try to use different Setups as a top player to challenge myself but with the AT bugs as i discussed I have to take tanks now with AT weapons being very unreliable Russian kit needs to be updated also   It will be interesting to see how this all works in CMSF2 if its being ported over from CMBS   Especially with AT weapons as they have done considerable damage in Syria vs Armour How this game shows it will be interesting vs CMBS
I support battlefront having bought CM since it was first made but bugs are bugs and I hope these are sorted for CMSF2 Appreciate it if CMBS is also fixed in the process   Cheers                    

Its great we have a new game CMSF2 coming out
However as it is the same engine as CMBS and many of the same weapons will be used in that
I have to ask have the bugs been fixed for these as are present in CMBS?
and Is CMBS going to be patched?
How many of these  weapons systemsare going over to CMSF2?
 
 
Observations from extensive play testing and many ladder games of CMBS since it was released
Take this on board when playing CMSF2
 
USA vehicles 
M1167 Humvee
Must be manually shot - TOW doesn't engage enemy vehicles
 
M1 Tank inconsistent behavior 
With Crack crew and high morale +2 ldr
MI spotted Enemy Rpg unit - M1 fired at them killing one and the Russian survivor ran away
But Tank spends the whole game panicked
M1 runs away from everything whole game - its a joke
In other games I take M1 and it's hit by 5 AT 13s and multiple RPGs etc keeps on going
Morale is fine - they are running same setup as previous example
Has happened in a few games
 
Another game  my M1 is hit in same place - upper front turret just once by At13 and they bail
Its really inconsistent crew behavior sometimes / damage application
I do not use APS on M1 as I find it too over powered and unrealistic
 
I've seen my opponents M1 defeat 11+ AT14 and At13 shots shots with APS after being frontally Armour stripped from my 120mm Artillery and AA Tunguska fire 
The APS still works
 

Russian - Ukraine Kit
 
BRDM 2 (AT-5B)       
Doesn't shoot
( There needs to be a setup where the crew maybe get out - one observes ? the other is in car )
The whole thing doesn't work
Its like the US Humvee TOW
 
Russia Missing there heavy Mg  equivalent  12.7×108mm NSV and KORD ( used in Syria )
Also KORD .50cal
No Modern Russian sniper rifles  -  eg OSV-96 or SVLK-14 Sumrak Twilight (Also Used in Syria )
 
 
Man Portable AT Missile Problems
 
AT13  At 14  AT7 and Skiff  etc  randomly just fly in random bizarre directions
Have used in all terrains
This is constantly occuring
In Open areas with no obstruction to break wire etc
It happens frequently and makes taking AT Infantry vs Tanks in open areas pointless
it happens often making it pointless taking AT weapons only unless in built up areas
You just use RPGs ( most reliable in the game engine )

I see Crews with AT 13 AT7 etc launcher also ran back and forth in building trying to Target tank which was clear to shoot St with Blue Los and lots of windows
They did this for 4 minutes - 4 times after stopping them after each minute
They were spotted and died
Has happened many times - yes i've read heated discussions over AI path mapping etc on this forums but this is shooting
 
Ukraine Corsar randomly goes off in weird directions also
Crew are not suppressed
Doesn't happen as much but happens more then it should
I have games where they work ok and others where every shot missed fired from multiple units
Same Crew experience
 
Russian Grenade Launcher single guy ( unit ) has launcher and cannot deploy
 
He cannot move after his final move point ends
Ukraine And Russian vehicles and in one case a US Bradley
Just sit and stare at enemy and don't shoot ( yes im aware it happens randomly as they dropped there smokes or drink ) but sometimes its just stupid
  Biggest disappointment is RPO-A and M Shmel I took 15 units of these in one urban fight 2 units fired the whole game as squads who were crack or vet panicked when shot at or never fired when not being shot at was a joke They just sat and watched enemy They had great  command etc high motivation Of the two who fired minimal effect on building
They should vapourise people inside building and set it on fire Instead tiny bit of flame and 1-2 guys of enemy 5 man team died and they were shot back at from inside building and they died   As a general comment  I've been playing ladder games with CMBS for a long time Players have been leaving/dropping off our ladder group due to the general bugs with no updates and overpowered US gear and M1 issues Its either super over powered or just stupid with panic etc   Those of us who still play generally only play Russia vs Ukraine games now as a result of the US imbalance
I try to use different Setups as a top player to challenge myself but with the AT bugs as i discussed I have to take tanks now with AT weapons being very unreliable Russian kit needs to be updated also   It will be interesting to see how this all works in CMSF2 if its being ported over from CMBS   Especially with AT weapons as they have done considerable damage in Syria vs Armour How this game shows it will be interesting vs CMBS
I support battlefront having bought CM since it was first made but bugs are bugs and I hope these are sorted for CMSF2 Appreciate it if CMBS is also fixed in the process   Cheers                    

If CMSF2 has weapons working better as stated why has CMBS not been patched?
ATGM systems are quite broken in CMBS with overpowered M1s etc
Having paid for the game I'd expect a patch
What's your patch plans etc for existing products?
Thanks

Hey Steve were you developing training tools for our NZ army?
This?
http://army.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/army-news/armynews-483-commercial-off-the-shelf-wargame.pdf
The new face of CMBS 2?

Cheers

Hey Steve were you developing training tools for our NZ army?
This?
http://army.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/army-news/armynews-483-commercial-off-the-shelf-wargame.pdf
The new face of CMBS 2?

Cheers

Hey Steve were you developing training tools for our NZ army?
This?
http://army.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/army-news/armynews-483-commercial-off-the-shelf-wargame.pdf
The new face of CMBS 2?

Cheers

So this was weird... 


 

That ATGM (fired from a Russian attack helicopter)  just bounced off the spare tire on the rear of the BTR. BOUNCED. OFF. 

Then it sped off int othe distance and hit a house. 

Anyone ever had this? 

Good thread.
I've come into this quite late.

I've seen and read all the stuff you are referring to John about US vets , and how  they are dying off, being treated poorly.
Read it for years. Quite saddening.
An old colleague , A Dr I used to work with here in NZ. He used to work for a defense contractor in Saudi.
At the end of the Gulf War, him and his team of Drs had some high level US brass come in.
They asked about reported symptoms there - gulf war syndrome. Any one have reported symptoms?.
They said no none that they were aware of, and they asked was there any medical evidence they could have to look at and see what was going on to help them better understand this.
The US Lady looked to another military colleague and said all destroyed? And the guy nodded yes.
They were told the 000s of files on this were all lost and unavailable and sorry couldn't help them then they left.
 The Dr concerned said it sounded dodgey as hell.  They were of the opinion they were trying to cover up loose ends and get rid of evidence.
 
Dr Craig Paul Roberts pretty much summed up this war with Russia and Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAH0VXbwfU&feature=youtu.be
I respect his comments regarding US foreign policy and current economic issues
In his comments he also noted how it started - with western meddling.
He noted how the Russians keep casualties down with troop rotations etc and that is of relevance to this thread.
he talked about all that and the ghosting of units. Quite interesting.
Its worth listening to.
We all know Russia is involved. They had to be. They were simply protecting there country and economy.
I would be if I was Russia.
 
The Russian military have made physical plaques / commemorations to battles in the Ukraine but have not listed where the battles where etc - its like a place holder.
When this is all over they will honor the dead.
 
Also I wonder your thoughts John as you may have been around the scene at the time Roberts was assistant treasurer to Reagan.
I found his comments enlightening as to the nuclear issues and modified treaties today the US has allegedly cancelled in an aggressive fashion.
I respect his economic views. They are quite realistic. 
What did you think on his comments from a military perspective?   etc 
He talks about the dealings with Israel and drones and the Georgia Crisis  in exchange for Irans missiles systems codes? legit?
I see Israel PM is in Russia or just was over Syria.
I  suspect there is some link. Obviously regional defense concerns.
 
As to loss of life - a comment on the shot down air liner MH-17.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/which-airlines-fly-over-ukraine-how-can-you-find-out-your-flight-route/story-fnizu68q-1226996428536
The Ukraine is responsible for there airspace. They should share blame irrespective. 
It was absolutely irresponsible to allow any international flights thru a war zone with flying aircraft etc shooting at one another. But its common place generally as height is the safety margin for the aircraft concerned as per the link i noted. I think its kinds nuts but how the air flight business works.  Ukraine should have perhaps said to the UN its too dangerous and banned flights
Few air liners are flying over Iraqi warzones. The British have decided to stay in there. British Air ways.
A few have pulled out. They have shorter range air to air missile launchers so less risk i guess and no air to air attacks in general.

Good thread.
I've come into this quite late.

I've seen and read all the stuff you are referring to John about US vets , and how  they are dying off, being treated poorly.
Read it for years. Quite saddening.
An old colleague , A Dr I used to work with here in NZ. He used to work for a defense contractor in Saudi.
At the end of the Gulf War, him and his team of Drs had some high level US brass come in.
They asked about reported symptoms there - gulf war syndrome. Any one have reported symptoms?.
They said no none that they were aware of, and they asked was there any medical evidence they could have to look at and see what was going on to help them better understand this.
The US Lady looked to another military colleague and said all destroyed? And the guy nodded yes.
They were told the 000s of files on this were all lost and unavailable and sorry couldn't help them then they left.
 The Dr concerned said it sounded dodgey as hell.  They were of the opinion they were trying to cover up loose ends and get rid of evidence.
 
Dr Craig Paul Roberts pretty much summed up this war with Russia and Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAH0VXbwfU&feature=youtu.be
I respect his comments regarding US foreign policy and current economic issues
In his comments he also noted how it started - with western meddling.
He noted how the Russians keep casualties down with troop rotations etc and that is of relevance to this thread.
he talked about all that and the ghosting of units. Quite interesting.
Its worth listening to.
We all know Russia is involved. They had to be. They were simply protecting there country and economy.
I would be if I was Russia.
 
The Russian military have made physical plaques / commemorations to battles in the Ukraine but have not listed where the battles where etc - its like a place holder.
When this is all over they will honor the dead.
 
Also I wonder your thoughts John as you may have been around the scene at the time Roberts was assistant treasurer to Reagan.
I found his comments enlightening as to the nuclear issues and modified treaties today the US has allegedly cancelled in an aggressive fashion.
I respect his economic views. They are quite realistic. 
What did you think on his comments from a military perspective?   etc 
He talks about the dealings with Israel and drones and the Georgia Crisis  in exchange for Irans missiles systems codes? legit?
I see Israel PM is in Russia or just was over Syria.
I  suspect there is some link. Obviously regional defense concerns.
 
As to loss of life - a comment on the shot down air liner MH-17.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/which-airlines-fly-over-ukraine-how-can-you-find-out-your-flight-route/story-fnizu68q-1226996428536
The Ukraine is responsible for there airspace. They should share blame irrespective. 
It was absolutely irresponsible to allow any international flights thru a war zone with flying aircraft etc shooting at one another. But its common place generally as height is the safety margin for the aircraft concerned as per the link i noted. I think its kinds nuts but how the air flight business works.  Ukraine should have perhaps said to the UN its too dangerous and banned flights
Few air liners are flying over Iraqi warzones. The British have decided to stay in there. British Air ways.
A few have pulled out. They have shorter range air to air missile launchers so less risk i guess and no air to air attacks in general.

http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_russias_military_options_in_ukraine3010

Interesting summary of the Ukraine War and Russia options.
Thought I'd share.

leave the time as is - 60 seconds
no shorter
cheers

Hi Guys
I've been discussing this on another CM forum on the BLITZ war gaming club forums and have support.
This is a two pronged question
 
Basically I can take just Javs and no tanks and for 1000 points - 10 Jav teams kill all russian armour which is worth 6000 points or more.
Javs are too easy to spam  and have totally unbalanced the game for PBMs which we all play.
Even scenarios are quite difficult.
 
Javs should be increased in rarity to allow less of them - same goes for Enginner teams and trucks which carry 2 spare javs.
My questions to the devs is how many Javs are on hand to US forces and what is reasonable?
Are there stock piles of these things?
 
 
This is a problem combined with the fact Russian forces should have more Tanks at a cheaper cost and cheaper troops.
They are a massive army at lower quality, and the US less in numbers more in quality and tech.
So there should be some balance there to reflect this.
Current purchasing in PBMs doesn't reflect this.
yes to an extent maybe players need to agree on this but it should also be part of the games costings to make it easier.
 
Your engines limitations has pretty much put the Russian supersonic AT Missile system at a massive disadvantage with it not being able to sit behind hills and buildings and spot/shot safety.
Then the jav spamming which is ok for US forces.
Now PBMs which are really popular are out of wack.
 
I was hoping the Devs would have offset this with costings and rarity for the forces concerned to help fix this.
 
Whats your thoughts on this?
AS a PBM player - if im US im killing 15-18 tanks for loss of none with Javs and my opponents are giving up.
This is with using 4-5 jav teams and some engineers who come with them.
Using trucks for cheap ammo and mobility they come with Javs - couple of them 
So seeing this in action and playing many PBMs from both sides I'm wondering if anything can be done to balance it out?
Cheers
 

My game had an M1 , Bradley and a sniper team, jav team
run around corner onto grass section by rd

xxxx us units are here Rt Rt
this is a long road -700 yards to Rts


400 yards
Rt Russian sniper team
RT


My opponent cannot see my Units with RT russian tanks sniper and observer
he is stationary and i have a drone watching his units
i hit his units straight away shooting after moving around the side
His units cannot see me for up to 5 seconds after ive shot with my tank

Its hard to put vids up as i dont have much time to muck around with this and im playing multiple pbms on a ladder.

Ive also sent in bugs for RT for example and been told for example the HE shot going thru panther tanks without exploding on the tank but miles behind it may go into a future patch. still to be patched
This is after mucking around and sending files and write ups.
Just dont have time.
The whole spotting issue , Steve and the developers need to really explain in more detail how this works.
Im playing with hqs outside tanks directing or in command vehicles with massive c3 setups.
Still inconsistant at times

I agree that russian spotting is not working properly.
Ive been playing both sides in PBM and russian spotting is appaling unless you have a drone. Im dominating as a US player as a result.
One map i had 5-7 russian seperate units with binocs not able to see AT jav launchers shooting multiple times.
The javs were coming thru tree canopy to hit my tanks. 20-30 feet in woods i might add.
My russian scout vehicles cannot see much.
I thought my C3 just wasnt working but its setup pretty good for russian units.
My russian guys are spotting units further away in some instances than closer enemy units.
I have considered the opinion of this post and my opponents comments and my own experiences.
Something is wrong.
I appreciate Russian units have less scoped weapons but there recon armor is rubbish for spotting and hqs are not seeing much.
Please fix or somefink?

Thanks for the had work you put into this Kieme. Totally appreciated!
You rock!