Cid250 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 There are too many thread asking for the status of CM: Normandy. My opinion is that the more that it takes, the better... I still consider a lot of features in the old CMx1 aka CMBB or CMAK, better than the current CMSF. If we want a CM: Normandy as good as the old games, they will need a lot of time in development. They can't rush development and expect a good Quick Battle design. (and that's only an example). CM: Normandy, needs to be much better than CMSF in a lot of areas, and a lot of development TIME is the only way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 CM: Normandy, needs to be much better than CMSF There's not anything CM:Normandy 'needs' to be, besides being what the BFC guys want to produce. Its not their fault that some choose to nurture inflated expectations. You want to see flying monkeys in the game? You're guaranteed to be disappointed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullootens Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 i hope though, that what they "want to produce" is in part based on what us customers want to play... i happen to love both CMx1 and CMx2 i favor the quick battle unit purchasing option of CMx1 over the CMx2 quick battle system, and there are other pro's and cons, but i understand well enough that they are different games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 There are too many thread asking for the status of CM: Normandy. My opinion is that the more that it takes, the better... I still consider a lot of features in the old CMx1 aka CMBB or CMAK, better than the current CMSF. If we want a CM: Normandy as good as the old games, they will need a lot of time in development. They can't rush development and expect a good Quick Battle design. (and that's only an example). CM: Normandy, needs to be much better than CMSF in a lot of areas, and a lot of development TIME is the only way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 There are too many thread asking for the status of CM: Normandy. And you started yet another one because...? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Tiger Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Cid250: You might want to revise your signature as the Blue Bar was returned in patch v1.11. The sentiment's a bit redundant now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 There's not anything CM:Normandy 'needs' to be, besides being what the BFC guys want to produce. Its not their fault that some choose to nurture inflated expectations. You want to see flying monkeys in the game? You're guaranteed to be disappointed. I don't think wanting features that were in games BFC made a decade ago is too much to ask, or that that constitutes "inflated expectations". I can understand you're a tad biased though . Furthermore, BFC can do anything they want, they're free to release a game simulating virtual palm tree growing, but if they want to make sales they should listen to their customer base. I guarantee you they already lost some customers from the botched initial CMSF release. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cid250 Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 And you started yet another one because...? Michael ... there are many threads asking for bones and pushing towards an early release of the game. My point is that i want just the oposite... i will be happy if CM: Normandy isn't released in 2010, because it means that they will have time to change a lot of thing to add more features to the CMSF "layer" and bring back some of the good old ideas "still" availabe in CMBB & CMAK that aren't here anymore (doesn't matter if they will change them to improve them, i'm not asking for a copy of the old QB system, but for a good design with lots of development time to betatest different approachs). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cid250 Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Cid250: You might want to revise your signature as the Blue Bar was returned in patch v1.11. The sentiment's a bit redundant now. My signature isn't about the blue bar... i've pached my game, and i didn't played at all CMSF untill the blue bar was back, so... i know. My signature is about both: TCP/IP WEGO & PBEM WEGO. Those are the most clever features ever done in a tactical game, and i will always support them, so my signature will keep unchanged until year 2058 or may be 2059 (just guessing my maximum lifetime here). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I agree. A good product needs time. But I think discussion is a good thing, too. When combined a good product may just become a great product. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_the_wino Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Cid250, it's thoughtful, polite, well-meaning posts like this that will be the end of us all. What's called for in this situation is shrill, unrealistic, unwavering and rarely focused rants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 CMBB manual, pg 8: “Action in CMBB is paused to allow for player input. We feel it is conductive to players’ development of thoughtful and realistic strategies, rather than the “click fest” that some fully “real time” games can become.” very unfortunate they lost their way in this regard. by now i dont care how long CM normandy will take, they may choose to go down the DukeNukeEm Forever route. next time i buy a CM product it will have TCPip WEGO with replay included. i am fed up with single player against AI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 very unfortunate they lost their way in this regard. by now i dont care how long CM normandy will take, they may choose to go down the DukeNukeEm Forever route. next time i buy a CM product it will have TCPip WEGO with replay included. i am fed up with single player against AI Lol, CMN is absolutely nowhere near the legendary status of DNF. I think that game was initially planned for release like 8 yrs ago. A game has to be delayed a minimum of 2 years for it to be even mentioned with DNF in the same breath. But if BF did go down that route they probably wouldn't make it that far, they'd go broke. So I gather there is no turn-based mode with TCP/IP, just real time? I wouldn't know since I only play SP and PBEM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 You want to see flying monkeys in the game? You're guaranteed to be disappointed. Waitaminute... Does that mean there are actually no flying monkeys at all in CM:N? *cancels preorder* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Lol, CMN is absolutely nowhere near the legendary status of DNF. I think that game was initially planned for release like 8 yrs ago. A game has to be delayed a minimum of 2 years for it to be even mentioned with DNF in the same breath. Like 82nd Airborne from Shrapnel...They've supposedly been working on it since 2000. Now there's a fan base that has a right to bitch. Yeah, CMN isn't even in the same universe as Duke or 82nd. Considering it's the same engine as CMSF it doesn't even count as late, let alone Vapor. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wengart Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Lol, CMN is absolutely nowhere near the legendary status of DNF. I think that game was initially planned for release like 8 yrs ago. A game has to be delayed a minimum of 2 years for it to be even mentioned with DNF in the same breath. But if BF did go down that route they probably wouldn't make it that far, they'd go broke. Fun fact: DNF was actually in development before CM:BO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_the_wino Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Holy Crap! [url deleted] They took pre-orders in 2004 and are still in development? Wow! I take back most of my snarky comments to BFC and Steve. This crow is pretty good if you braise it long enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Someone got a red card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Haha, Mike got busted! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergerbitz Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 In racing terminology, DNF also means "Did Not Finish". Seems kinda fitting, eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franko Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 For the record, I'm still patient. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 ... there are many threads asking for bones and pushing towards an early release of the game. My point is that i want just the oposite... i will be happy if CM: Normandy isn't released in 2010... And my point was that it wasn't necessary to start a new thread to do that. Several posters wrote to the existing threads saying in essence the same thing that you do. Now, having said that, I will shut up about it. I'm not mad at you and I don't want you to be unhappy about my comment. I'm sure you are a fine fellow and all. I was just reacting to an incongruity. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Belenko Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Furthermore, BFC can do anything they want, they're free to release a game simulating virtual palm tree growing, ..... Based on your through evaluation the old saying "Who's grass mod is that?" Will be replaced with "Who's palm frond design is that?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_the_wino Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Haha, Mike got busted! Hhhhmmmmm. Those other guys are f***ed up I don't see that as being a commercial link. Don't you have to release games to be a commercial enterprise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 This always cheers me up when I'm feeling down about not playing CMN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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