hellfish Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Syria warns 'gates of hell will open' if U.S. attacks By Leila Hatoum Daily Star staff Wednesday, October 12, 2005 BEIRUT: In the latest official Syrian comment on the increasing pressure on Damascus, Premier Naji Otari said "all the gates of hell will open on the U.S. if it attempts to attack Syria." Otari was replying to a report this week in Newsweek magazine revealing that Washington had debated launching military strikes inside Syria against camps used by insurgents operating in Iraq. Citing unnamed government sources, the magazine reported that U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had managed to block the proposal during a meeting of senior U.S. officials on October 1. Speaking to reporters in Shanon, Ireland, on a four-nation tour, Rice said: "I am not going to comment on internal deliberations in the administration." Otari also accused Lebanese officials of being unable to make an independent decision, saying they were answerable to the French and U.S. ambassadors to Lebanon. Addressing his Lebanese counterpart Fouad Siniora, the Syrian premier said: "Apparently Siniora forgot all of what we have discussed when he visited Damascus after his recent return from a visit to the U.S." Siniora had held talks with several officials in Damascus to resolve a border dispute between the two countries in June. Pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat reported yesterday Otari had refused to answer repeated phone calls from Siniora on Monday. The paper quoted unidentified "informed Syrian sources in Damascus" as saying the Assad regime believes Siniora has reneged on promises he made to the Syrian president during a visit on July 31. The regime is particularly outraged over Siniora's allegation in a recent interview with The Washington Post that all of Lebanon is convinced that Syria engineered the Hariri murder. In other related media responses to the mounting pressure on Damascus, Syrian daily Tishrin said in an editorial yesterday that Washington is criticizing Syria to cover its own policy failures in the Middle East. Assistant U.S. Secretary of State David Welch had warned the Assad regime Sunday that it was not heeding calls to change its behavior in Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Welch has been touring the Middle East, meeting with leaders in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. He is expected to hold talks with Lebanese officials today. "Barely a day passes without such accusations as if Syria has become an excuse for the U.S. faults in the region," the editorial said. Separately, Detlev Mehlis, the German prosecutor heading the international investigation into Hariri's murder, was expected to reach Beirut late last night from Larnaca, where he is placing the final touches on his report according to sources close to the Lebanese judiciary. Mehlis moved his base of operations to the Cypriot port town early in the day citing security concerns. But the source said: "Some experts from Mehlis' team are still in Lebanon, and Mehlis will join them for further discussions with Lebanese officials before presenting his report." The nature of Mehlis' report has spurred mounting speculations, fears and an ongoing public row between Lebanese and Syrian officials. In local developments, Lebanese Justice Minister Charles Rizk held several meetings with various ambassadors to Lebanon in which he tried to gather support for an extension of the international investigation's term to allow it to provide support for the Lebanese judiciary. The UN team's mandate is set to expire on October 25. UN chief Kofi Annan has refused an oral request from Siniora made last week, saying he would only consider an official written request from the government. In the meantime, the Center to Protect Journalists in New York has presented a letter to Annan asking him to include the attacks Lebanese journalists May Chidiac and Samir Qassir in Mehlis' mission. "The Committee to Protect Journalists today called on the UN Security Council to expand its probe into the murder of former Lebanese Premier Rafik Hariri to include the alarming attacks against Lebanese journalists," the letter said. Source And you naysayers say this game will be too easy. Last I checked, the Abrams tank didn't have enough protection against the Syrian demon hordes! :mad: :mad: :mad: [ October 12, 2005, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: fytinghellfish ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 It all depends. I mean, if some idjit like dalem or Foul Joe has the U.S. side, then of course the U.S. attackers are doomed. I mean, really. Why would you think Syria in 2007 might be any different from Europe in 1944? Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Can't exactly say his statement is inaccurate. We (by 'we' I mean Bush) attacked Iraq and the gates of hell opened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 sweet it looks like its time for another crusade, to bring freedom to this poor people(they want it, but they dont know yet). ... :mad: ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by MikeyD: Can't exactly say his statement is inaccurate. We (by 'we' I mean Bush) attacked Iraq and the gates of hell opened. I think he (By 'he' I mean the same guy you do)had some help...Actually it seems more like he opened the cupboard of hell. "Gates" is a strong word. But I wonder if Newsweek should've published that article? Sounds like they are just stirring the pot to me. Mord. [ October 12, 2005, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: Mord ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by Pandur: sweet it looks like its time for another crusade, to bring freedom to this poor people(they want it, but they dont know yet). ... :mad: ... Yeah you are right! Bombing Terrorist training camps is wrong... Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Newsweek? I got this from a Lebanese newspaper. :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 More importantly, how will The Gates of Hell be modeled in CM:SF? Do we know whether the Syrians have TGOH Mk. 1 or Mk. 2? How many Gates do they have? And of, course, as is always an issue with all of this old Soviet Bloc equipment, what kind condition are they in? Do they need oiling? Rusty Gates will be difficult to open, and therefore may have reduced effectiveness. C'mon Steve, inqiring minds want to know. . . [ October 12, 2005, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: YankeeDog ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 More importantly, how will The Gates of Hell be modeled in CM:SF? Do we know whether the Syrians have TGOH Mk. 1 or Mk. 2? How many Gates do they have? And of, course, as is always an issue with all of this old Soviet Bloc equiment, what kind condition are they in? Do they need oiling? Rusty Gates will be difficult to open, and therefore may have reduced effectiveness. meybe they got new gates from france(their old friends). i heared france got pretty good TGOH´s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ng cavscout Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by YankeeDog: More importantly, how will The Gates of Hell be modeled in CM:SF? Do we know whether the Syrians have TGOH Mk. 1 or Mk. 2? How many Gates do they have? And of, course, as is always an issue with all of this old Soviet Bloc equiment, what kind condition are they in? Do they need oiling? Rusty Gates will be difficult to open, and therefore may have reduced effectiveness. C'mon Steve, inqiring minds want to know. . . Gates of Hell grog.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by NG cavscout: Gates of Hell grog.... LMFAO! Man that was good. Out of all the Grog lines that was one of the best! Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hee Hee. That definitely gets my vote for funny of the day, NGcavscout. I think this merits the first change in my sig since I signed on here . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Ruddy Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 YankeeDog, how many deamons per minute is the TGOH Mk2 capable of? (I'm talking sustained, not burst) thx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 All your Gates are belong to us! Err, sorry, wrong net-culture refrence... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Yeah you are right! Bombing Terrorist training camps is wrong... i wont say that it is entierly wrong to do something against this, but as you said with "bombing is wrong", iam sure that the US wouldnt come up with a subtile way to do it, like some other happenings i know of where exactly the same problem was going on. other countys do this in an old shool, manly fashioned style. instead of that, they meybe, drop some **** there and hope that all and everyting is killed. if not, than again. i dont like the way of fighting, thats all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by J Ruddy: YankeeDog, how many deamons per minute is the TGOH Mk2 capable of? (I'm talking sustained, not burst) thx As always, this question is difficult to answer, as it depends a bit on the way the Gate is deployed, and the skill of the summoner. If the Gate is properly laid out n a pentagram with aborted fetus-tallow candles at each intersection, this dramatically increases demon-summoning performance. Of course, such an elaborate setup is not always possible under combat conditions. Date is also a factor. TGOH Mk. 2 works dramatically more efficiently on a moonless night. The in latest Jane's "All the World's Nefarious Gates and Summoning Devices" There is also speculation of an upgrade to TGOH Mk. 2 involving the adition of black granite altar, apparently for the sacrifice of virgins. However, current CW is that this device increases the strength of demons summoned, and not the ROS (Rate of Summoning). But I digress. . . under combat conditions, the number most commonly bandied about is 666 demons/day, or roughly one demon every 2 minutes. For more info, I suggest www.globalwitchcraft.org. Excellent site. Hope this helps. YD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Damn demonic double post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Shouldn't the Gates of Hell be added to the Axis of Evil first? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by Mord: Yeah you are right! Bombing Terrorist training camps is wrong... Bombing terrorist training camps means the terrorists win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 If the Syrians have the Gates of Hell Mk II doesn't that mean that there's now a Gates of Hell gap with the U.S. inventory? I predict a massive GOH spending spree to make up the difference & close that serious GOH gap. Think of it as the Turgidson dilemma. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalem Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by MikeyD: Can't exactly say his statement is inaccurate. We (by 'we' I mean Bush) attacked Iraq and the gates of hell opened. More like the gates of Heck. -dale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 The big question is, if Syria opens the Gates of Hell, who will the Horned One side with - the despotic, terrorist-supporting Syria or the decadent, morally liberal USA? Tough call! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Neither....it will be Finland! We all know how Uber evil they are...how do you think they kicked so much Russian ass?!...you should know you LIVE THERE!! Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I wonder what 2008's US President candidates will said about their future with Arab people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Originally posted by Mord: Neither....it will be Finland! We all know how Uber evil they are...how do you think they kicked so much Russian ass?!...you should know you LIVE THERE!! Mord. Bah - we consider Satan as an amateur. That maggot's den has even working heating! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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