Grey_Fox Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) I am based in the EU. Some people I know are based in the UK. When we add RT to our carts, I see this: My UK-based friend sees this: As you can see, the UK purchaser has a 20% sales tax which does not appear for me. My cart shows I have to pay $60, while the UK-based user sees the price as $72. Is this a brexit-related tariff? Edited January 13, 2021 by Grey_Fox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Probably paying extra "danger money" due to Covid. (I have people over there. Sympathy for the terrible new problems...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 That'll teach those brexiteers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_Fox Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Erwin said: Probably paying extra "danger money" due to Covid. (I have people over there. Sympathy for the terrible new problems...) For a digital download? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Well, it is a virus...(?) And apparently mutating and learning our ways all the time. Edited January 13, 2021 by Erwin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Grey_Fox said: Is this a brexit-related tariff? Not sure it’s related to that particular f**k up. Although I did purchase CMFB in November 2020 ie before the final exit, and was not charged sales tax/VAT/money-for-old-rope*. However, I am pretty sure that, and this applied pre-Brexit, any digital purchases made in any EU country FROM any country outside of EU was supposed to attract VAT at the applicable rate based on the purchasers local VAT rate. Thus 20% VAT on purchases from US by UK buyer. The VAT is that same rate one would pay on a physical product purchased from US and shipped to UK (with value over a certain threshold). iirc This was introduced to make a more level playing field between physical and digital product purchases, physical purchases over a certain value always attract VAT (if the Customs people spot the item). Now, we in the UK may have to pay VAT on BF digital products going forward because, and again please don’t quote me, but iirc BF had an Irish distributor (gateway to EU) so no EU VAT attracted on purchases pre-Brexit, post-Ballsup we, UK, don’t benefit from this (though maybe they do in NI, but that’s another huh hum issue). So our loverly HMRC will do what it wants regarding imports and VAT (sovereignty is a wonderful thing). Confused yet? Of course if we (UK) have a trade deal with the US this could all change, but at the moment I think we are on WTO rules, so who knows?!! * extortion how ever you say it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Grey_Fox said: As you can see, the UK purchaser has a 20% sales tax which does not appear for me. My cart shows I have to pay $60, while the UK-based user sees the price as $72. One thought - do BF offer gift purchases. If so you could buy the game and gift it to your buddy in UK. Don’t think this would be any skin off BF’s Edited January 13, 2021 by Lucky_Strike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_Fox Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lucky_Strike said: However, I am pretty sure that, and this applied pre-Brexit, any digital purchases made in any EU country FROM any country outside of EU was supposed to attract VAT at the applicable rate based on the purchasers local VAT rate. Thus 20% VAT on purchases from US by UK buyer. The VAT is that same rate one would pay on a physical product purchased from US and shipped to UK (with value over a certain threshold). iirc This was introduced to make a more level playing field between physical and digital product purchases, physical purchases over a certain value always attract VAT (if the Customs people spot the item). The VAT exemption on purchases under a certain value makes sense to me, I have had to pay import duties on goods from the US before, just not for smaller purchases. Thanks for the insight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Another thought - as this is RT you were looking at, it may be worth waiting until the Fire & Rubble module comes out and RT goes onto Steam - you might get a different price on Steam? I don’t use Steam so don’t know what the VAT situation might be. Or, one more thought, your buddy could try using a VPN with a US IP address and purchase using PayPal, might get away with no VAT and just have to stump up a little extra for the exchange rate, not $12 though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchman55555 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Lucky_Strike said: One thought - do BF offer gift purchases. If so you could buy the game and gift it to your buddy in UK. Don’t think this would be any skin off BF’s A few years ago I purchased a CM game for a friend in the UK (I'm in Canada), I think they gave me a key to send him. Or maybe a link? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) On 1/13/2021 at 6:15 PM, Lucky_Strike said: Not sure it’s related to that particular f**k up. I think unfortunately it probably is. And I agree with your desciptive language . When I bought RT perhaps 6 or 7 months ago I was charged $60. Now, before I log in to BFC (so my location is unknown) it is still $60. When I log in it knows I'm in the UK and shows me $72. Yet another of Boris' 'benefits'. Edit: As an after-thought perhaps our friends in countries outside the EU could confirm the price they are offered? Of course they may have a trade deal . Edited January 15, 2021 by Vacilllator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just wait until we go back to LSD. Ooops, I meant £.s.d. Nah, not even The Bullingdon Buffoon would be that stupid, would he? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warts 'n' all said: Just wait until we go back to LSD. Ooops, I meant £.s.d. Nah, not even The Bullingdon Buffoon would be that stupid, would he? Perhaps LSD would make Brexit seem more sensible, but I doubt it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Ignore me Edited January 15, 2021 by Lucky_Strike LSD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vacilllator said: I think unfortunately it probably is. And I agree with your desciptive language . When I bought RT perhaps 6 or 7 months ago I was charged $60. Now, before I log in to BFC (so my location is unknown) it is still $60. When I log in it knows I'm in the UK and shows me $72. Yet another of Boris' 'benefits'. Edit: As an after-thought perhaps our friends in countries outside the EU could confirm the price they are offered? Of course they may have a trade deal . Quite, same happens to me, haven’t tried any work-around yet, waiting to pull the trigger on RT + FB bundle. I can feel an Irish address coming on ... ... where’s the LSD ... 2 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: Just wait until we go back to LSD. Ooops, I meant £.s.d. Nah, not even The Bullingdon Buffoon would be that stupid, would he 2 hours ago, Vacilllator said: Perhaps LSD would make Brexit seem more sensible, but I doubt it. Edited January 15, 2021 by Lucky_Strike LSD flashbacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Let’s not mention LSD ever again - it seems to do something very strange to my typing abilities ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Lucky_Strike said: Let’s not mention LSD ever again - it seems to do something very strange to my typing abilities ... You must have had some handy just in case . Perhaps it was an integral part of creating Hedgerow Hell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Strike Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Vacilllator said: You must have had some handy just in case . Perhaps it was an integral part of creating Hedgerow Hell? Hah, foraging for in the Dorset countryside was probably something to do with it ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Lucky_Strike said: Hah, foraging for in the Dorset countryside was probably something to do with it ... LOL, whatever it was it worked a treat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlaut Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lucky_Strike said: Hah, foraging for in the Dorset countryside was probably something to do with it ... Hahaha. Reminds me of that brilliant scene with the two roman deserters in the Britannia series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Lucky_Strike said: Ignore me Ignore who? Well, someone has to say it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, umlaut said: Hahaha. Reminds me of that brilliant scene with the two roman deserters in the Britannia series. What did the Romans ever do for us? Oh no, I think that's from somewhere else . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1966 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This is odd. I bought the CMFI bundle the other day and didn't think I'd paid any tax. Just checked and I didn't. In fact it says "Not taxable". I'm in the UK so that's weird. Mind you, the current value of the pound makes these purchases more expensive than they once were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, John1966 said: I bought the CMFI bundle the other day After December 31st? Just so we're clear about the positives and negatives - haven't seen any positives yet but there must be some? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey_Fox Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, John1966 said: This is odd. I bought the CMFI bundle the other day and didn't think I'd paid any tax. Just checked and I didn't. In fact it says "Not taxable". I'm in the UK so that's weird. Mind you, the current value of the pound makes these purchases more expensive than they once were. What price did you pay in USD? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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