Placebo Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ref: the credits list, I am jealously looking at all those beta testers involved in the project. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Smash Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Can't we just copy this .pdf manual to our iPad or whatever tablet you have, and read it? That's what I am doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ref: the credits list, I am jealously looking at all those beta testers involved in the project. Soon everyone will be cursing them and demanding a patch! (That is if things go as they normally do...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes, it has been fun, and an honor to be asked to help. I have not played against the AI this much since the release of of CMBN. The game is awesome! Wait am I allowed to say that? Perhaps not since it's awsomeness has not been officially announced yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Guy Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The manual says that the IS2 (Late) had a 12.7mm added. I do not see any ammo for it though listed. Is it supposed to be available to the unbuttoned commander? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 That would be incorrect for the current time frame of the game. The DShK AAMG was added (on the production line) in November 1944, so it should become available in a module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchenar Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I just want to say how incredibly well-written this manual is. I got my old Shock Force manual out to compare and the difference in terms of explaining how the UI works and showing principles of how to actually play the game is a world apart. Other wargame developers should be using this as a model. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroBodine Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Agreed. I am completely impressed and overjoyed at the detail of the manual. AGEOD has a very good manual for Alea Jacta Est, but CMRT, with so many in-game step by step examples, wins hands down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The manual says that the IS2 (Late) had a 12.7mm added. Added about December or January, it turned out. Really, whenever the module comes out its going to rock. Everything imaginable seems to show up to play October or later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastamon Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Looks great! I don't see the MP44 listed and the King Tiger seems to be missing it's passenger capacity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes, it has been fun, and an honor to be asked to help. I have not played against the AI this much since the release of of CMBN. The game is awesome! Wait am I allowed to say that? Perhaps not since it's awsomeness has not been officially announced yet Yeah, same here, Ian. And I never played so many turns a day before, either. As I mentioned elsewhere, I was always a version behind everyone else, it seemed, so I don't think I contributed a whole lot. But man, the work that the BFC team does behind the scene was a real eye-opener for me. Especially all the little twitchy things that crop up and need attention. Never knew there could be so many, but now I know why a release can take a long time in development. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1954 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Perhaps people who have never play tested don't actually realize how little "Play" there really is. Most of it is time consuming and detail oriented, and under a deadline. My helmet is off to those of you who work long and hard on this for free. It does not happen without your efforts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collingwood Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 My helmet is off to those of you who work long and hard on this for free. It does not happen without your efforts. Seconded. I've been a beta tester elsewhere, and it wasn't much fun. Although I think CM would be more fun to test than other products. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 On page 31 of the PDF file (page 84 of the manual), the Russian A-19 M1931/37 gun is mislabeled as a howitzer... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-19_122mm_gun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpheart23 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 On page 31 of the PDF file (page 84 of the manual), the Russian A-19 M1931/37 gun is mislabeled as a howitzer... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-19_122mm_gun Just splitting hairs at this point. Plus it's wikipedia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Purpheart23, I'd say that these forums are nothing short of Hair-splitter Central. :-) In all seriousness, though, the Soviets themselves never called it (at least in official documents, to my best knowledge) anything other than "пушка", i.e. "gun", as opposed to "гаубица" ("howitzer"). The Wiki article was just the most conveniently available source, but hardly the only one. Unfortunately, most of the cited sources are in print, not online; and those that are available online will probably not pass the "higher-than-Wikipedia" standard. I did find some places online where it was labeled as a howitzer, but mostly on pictures, not in source texts. Some of these mentions were actually for modeling, so they have to be considered secondary, IMHO. A-19 does have some "howitzer-like" features such as high maximum elevation and separate loading ammunition, but its design and battle application in my opinion firmly put it in the gun category. To compare it with the 122 mm M-30 howitzer just below it in the manual, the A-19's barrel length is 45 calibers, giving it a reported max muzzle velocity of about 800 m/s, while for the M-30 the barrel length is 18.7 calibers giving it a max muzzle velocity of just 515 m/s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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