para Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 "Jap" is a slang term these days as you know, although I'm sure you don't intend it that way. I encourage folks to either spell out "Japanese" or use IJA (Imperial Japanese Army) where possible. I'm not the hypersensitive PC type or anything but I'd love to get some Japanese (or Korean) players engaged here if possible, so it would be good not to be greeting them with racist epithets, even unintentional. Your other points are really good but I'll have to say more later. I applaud you excellent post LLF. It would be nice to see Japanese,Koreans or Chinese guys joining the forum. I doubt the poster meant any offence. I wonder what sort of ethic mix we have among this games fans? I may be wrong but I am guessing a very high proportion are white European or White American. Not me, I am half Afghan/half English. So I have done my bit for ethnic diversity :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'd also guess that extreme white guyness is the rule here, especially on the forums. But I always wondered about the "Tamiya factor" in Japan.... ISTR miniatures wargaming has a long and rich history there. As Steve has noted, CM is as much a digitization of the tabletop miniatures tradition as it is the Squad Leader boardgaming one. And go is as ancient a pastime there as chess is in the West. If we can find a way to get a reasonable looking and behaving IJA infantry force going via model swapping, I think some talented grogs and modders might come out of the woodwork. I'd love to get some well-read IJA grogs contributing, although I also fear they'd be prone to espouse a Steiner14 apologist ideology. The IJA accomplished some remarkable feats of arms, albeit in the service of a brutal, self-deluding regime. And the vaunted bushido code did as much to impair as to help their performance on all fronts. But I'd like to learn more about what worked for them tactically and what didn't, via CM. There's a lot of mythology floating around on both sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'd also guess that extreme white guyness is the rule here, especially on the forums. But I always wondered about the "Tamiya factor" in Japan.... ISTR miniatures wargaming has a long and rich history there. As Steve has noted, CM is as much a digitization of the tabletop miniatures tradition as it is the Squad Leader boardgaming one. And go is as ancient a pastime there as chess is in the West. If we can find a way to get a reasonable looking and behaving IJA infantry force going via model swapping, I think some talented grogs and modders might come out of the woodwork. I'd love to get some well-read IJA grogs contributing, although I also fear they'd be prone to espouse a Steiner14 apologist ideology. The IJA accomplished some remarkable feats of arms, albeit in the service of a brutal, self-deluding regime. And the vaunted bushido code did as much to impair as to help their performance on all fronts. But I'd like to learn more about what worked for them tactically and what didn't, via CM. There's a lot of mythology floating around on both sides. White guyness aint a problem, what I would be asking is, how do we get other ethnicities playing this game? This would expand it and it would grow more it popular. Surely you do not have to be white of Anglo Saxon origin to enjoy this fantastic game. It is truly a hidden gem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 White guyness aint a problem Glad to hear that! What I liked about game forums is the international flavor, and I agree it would be good to get more ethnicities involved. Without game forums like this, I'd just be another hick from Wisconsin. Now I'm a hick from Wisconsin who gets to interact with people world-wide. I truly enjoy that. Even with blokes from Yorkshire! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Glad to hear that! What I liked about game forums is the international flavor, and I agree it would be good to get more ethnicities involved. Without game forums like this, I'd just be another hick from Wisconsin. Now I'm a hick from Wisconsin who gets to interact with people world-wide. I truly enjoy that. Even with blokes from Yorkshire! Wisconsin? BFC are letting people from Wisconsin on this forum? wonders never cease The allies are rushing off the beach mjkerner. What is your assignment and location? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakai007 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Yes, they let folks from Maine on here too.....couldn't believe it. Believe it or not, I am half black!!! And the other half is German, like third generation, serious conflict of my inner self........LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Yes, they let folks from Maine on here too.....couldn't believe it. Believe it or not, I am half black!!! And the other half is German, like third generation, serious conflict of my inner self........LOL It is a good place to meet lots of different people and not have to shake their hands 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Para, you wiley, silver-tongued devil you! Sure, what harm could it do? I'm the pim...er, "Procurer" for 7th Armee in Paris. Fighting on the front lines in Normandy is for schmucks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Para, you wiley, silver-tongued devil you! Sure, what harm could it do? I'm the pim...er, "Procurer" for 7th Armee in Paris. Fighting on the front lines in Normandy is for schmucks! Can't blame a man for trying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 By the way, to keep this on point, no luck yet getting CMSF trees to show, but I had no problem with CM:A trees to show. Need to rethink the file structure. Para, what beach are you lounging around on? I can arrange to send you a package. Just mail me your coordinates and I guarantee speedy delivery! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 By the way, to keep this on point, no luck yet getting CMSF trees to show, but I had no problem with CM:A trees to show. Need to rethink the file structure. Para, what beach are you lounging around on? I can arrange to send you a package. Just mail me your coordinates and I guarantee speedy delivery! I might be here for a while wolfsschanze, Ketrzyn, Poland. Drop me as many surprise gifts as you like. You can also send some stuff to the Chancellery and the Reichstag, Berlin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 once the japanese army mod is finished i hope i can deploy them on this island: just finished the elevations now it is time to experiment with vegetation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 once the japanese army mod is finished i hope i can deploy them on this island: just finished the elevations now it is time to experiment with vegetation Is that Iwo Jima? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Awesome! I haven't done anything more on this project myself -- no time to figure out the hex coder thingy. My limited CM time is on my CMSF Baba Amr project. But if anyone can figure out any model swapping secrets for CMBNCW, please post it here! That includes the developers -- it's not like these tinkerings steal any bread from your mouths, and who knows? We might surface a new market for this game.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Is that Iwo Jima? no it is a small version of angaur here you can find detailed informations - it was definitely not a fight one wants to simulate in cmbn: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-P-Approach/USA-P-Approach-21.html The 2d Battalion gained 150 yards to the north and 250 to the west by 1000 hours At 0530 the Angaur Fire Support Group started its bombardment, employing for the most part slow, methodical area fire rather than shooting at specific targets. The fire was characterized by the 81st Division as being "very satisfactory,"11 and it accounted for about 40 percent of all naval shells thrown at Angaur from 12 through 17 September . The bombardment continued beyond the scheduled hour but with the lack of jungle like undergrowth advance will be much faster i guess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 http://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.35883 30 min film about Angaur. Good start with that map permanent! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 my first try in texturing since rome total war: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 my first try in texturing since rome total war: That is very good.Any minute now, I expect Cary Grant and Leslie Caron to appear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 http://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.35883 30 min film about Angaur. Good start with that map permanent! thank you great piece of propaganda and it helped me to figure out how the island looked like in 1944 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Good looking hut! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 That is very good.Any minute now, I expect Cary Grant and Leslie Caron to appear Or that Gilligan's Island episode wjere the Skipper gets hit on the head by a coconut and thinks the others are Japanese soldiers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coon Dog Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Here's a start on a japanese helmet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Here's a start on a japanese helmet. great!!! - when finished i will definitely buy the cw addon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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permanent666 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 wow these helmets look even better - will you mod the uniform as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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