sgtstinky Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Is friendly fire an issue in CM? As a new player I've been asking myself this question, it looks like yes for indirect fire and no for direct fire?? Any thoughts on modeling friendly fire and the need to lift or shift fire?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xian Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It certainly can be when you drop a whole bunch of 105mm on your own troops or suffer from a poorly aimed .50cal. Haven't had as much problem with smaller caliber weaponry though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Only HE (and the like, such as WP) can harm your guys. But all fire will suppress them, so having a MG right behind your infantry line firing over their heads is not necessarily a good idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtstinky Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I see, I've been having my guys break a lot. I was wondering what effect these things had. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 And you can use as many satchel charges as you want (to blow bocage) right next to friendlies with no negative effect at all. I know that no friendly small arms or grenades will wound friendlies. But, I didn't know that they could suppress friendlies. You sure about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It's easy to try yourself. Just put a light target over a friendly squad and see if they cower. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Tiger Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 There certainly used to be real Friendly fire in the earlier versions of CMSF, but never CMBN. It was especially noticable with Green/Conscript troops at night. They'd open fire one each other and rip themselves to pieces unless you could keep good C2 links over them. However, this effect must have been coded out of the game at some point because I've never seen anything like it in CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakai007 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Grenades do cause FF last I checked. I know they did in CMSF at least. I am pretty sure I have lost men throwing grenades who get shot and kill 3 of their friends. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 From how Ive come to understand it, any type of explosion will injure friendlies. EXCEPT for 'blast' issued commands. This must be because its a planned explosion and everyone can be told to get down. As far as smaller caliber weapons, anything with bullets will not cause FF. I remember the old friendly fire in CMx1. And no I havent seen this happen in CMBN. I dont think even .50 cal will injure friendlies..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 There certainly used to be real Friendly fire in the earlier versions of CMSF, but never CMBN. It was especially noticable with Green/Conscript troops at night. They'd open fire one each other and rip themselves to pieces unless you could keep good C2 links over them. However, this effect must have been coded out of the game at some point because I've never seen anything like it in CMBN. I crying shame it was coded out, or maybe ti was a bug in the first place, and I expect people moaned...oh hum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I've seen one of my soldiers throw a grenade at an enemy behind bocage - it hit the hedge and bounced back and killed him. I watched close up in a WeGo replay to make sure it was his grenade - it was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakai007 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 LOL, pics or it didn't happen!!! j/k, that's too much though, I would have laughed so hard I may have had an accident :\ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Gives one a bit more to think about when assaulting up hill.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I dont think even .50 cal will injure friendlies..... I think it can. It's been a while since this was discussed, but IIRC 12.7mm is the cutoff point for friendly fire casualties. Anything smaller than that will only add suppression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Grenades can cause blue on blue casualties. I once watched one of my squads shoot a german right after he had pulled the pin on his grenade. It fell next to him and went off. It took out two more of his mates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eniced73 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This dumb arse on the right hand side of the pic decides to fire a rifle grenade at the same bunch of trees that his buddies are rushing. There is a lone soldier in there harassing my advance. I was trying to suppress him while we move in for the kill. Actually I am the DA for giving a target area instead of a light target area fire command As you can see from the result of 4 dead soldiers in addition to the guy firing the grenade actually killed himself. 5 lost in the matter of seconds. ugghhh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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