eniced73

Feel your pain. All that time setting up and my opponent surrenders in first turn! I should of looked at what he was doing in his other games as it looks like he has surrendered all of them.

@BFCElvisWhile you are in contact with them find out why my CMRT games were both surrendered by my opponent but the score reflects I surrendered one game? I setup all my f'n troops and then returned the file. Never hit surrender or CF. Got the turn back and right to scoring screen. My opponent got 2000 and I got 2000.

i downloaded all my games from Steam. do they contain all the miscellaneous patches that have been applied to the games over the years. Specifically any map, scenario, or campaign patches.

@BFCElvis Has this been fixed?

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Anyone else getting server error this morning? error: undefined index: isRankingEnabled Solution: Generic Error Cannot log on to server

Appreciate the help. Has anyone attempted to do this? I just did not want to reinvent the wheel if needed. I can screenshot the map but was also wondering about the height map. Anyone have any experience translating it from CMBO to CMBN as I know the action squares are different sizes as is the elevatiion levels.

@BFCElvis What is protocal here if your opponent has the turns and has yet to return them? I dont think this game is going anywhere and wanted to know if someone needs to be emailed or notified?

I do not see any files in my CMRT game. Does one player get both files to start and then the game commences? My opponent is Sonicgun. Anyone know him?

I am trying to fully understand the scoring system being used here. I know an explanation is being worked on but figured someone smarter than me might have already figured it out. I am seeing 10 or 11 scores that are all the same. Were all these games surrenders, no shows, or something else? I am guessing they are all the same scenario being all scores are exactly the same.

So, they were able to implement this into round one? Would be curious to see the penalty to each score explained. Makes sense if one is returning every 3 days while the other player every day. Otherwise a bad time zone matchup could skew times for one and not the other, no?

I am in same boat as you guys. Three of the four turns in my CMBN and CMRT games show I timed out eventhough I hit CF and all files were with my opponents. My in box was clean.

My CMBN games were both in my opponents hands. Nothing in my box yet scores for CMBN and CMRT show I timed out?? Got screwed because I sent both my opponents multiple PM's here and on Matrix and neither CF to finish the game. So, am I reading this right that three of the four turns were waiting on me?? I thought an email stating everyone must CF was going to be sent out? I never seen one unless I missed it. Divadov 13 T 377 390 eniced73 366 24 T 390 hel45 435 464 899 eniced73 11 T 8 T 19

it is! They are doing it now with the "no shows". Awarding 1000pts. I would say 500pts is more realistic in my opinion but that is a moot point. I do not see this happening very often. I got no problem with what Elvis choose on this. This is why "surrenders" should be discouraged and "cease-fires" encouraged. There is no way someone should be ending up with zero points. I think it would be pretty much impossible if you play through or do a CF. If you get your *** handed to you and with 10 turns to play realize it is "game over", let your opponent take the victory location and retreat. If you surrender, then am I wrong to say the last 20+ turns you played are for nothing as you will receive a zero score no matter how many other kill objectives you satisfied? I know the coding part is not easy. I was not alluding to that. I just see a chance the scoring system could be tightened up and make this more competitive and fun. I just wanted to get the conversation started and hopefully a few people coming up with their own suggestions. I thank BF, Slitherine, and all involved in putting this together. Appreciated.

I did some searches and could not find anything. Does anyone know of an easy or semi-easy way to transfer CMBO maps to CMBN? I am not looking at an auto transfer as I know the two games are totally different along with the action squares. I am just wondering if anyone has attempted it and found some easy tricks. I would like to maybe make a scenario or two and then play someone in both games. I think it would be neat to see how each game plays out.

I am not and have never been the type of guy to just "play games for fun". Sorry, but the fun for me comes when I am winning or tipping my hat to getting my *** kicked. I can play scenarios and campaigns solo for fun if needed. This is for blood. No need to code anything. I am not asking that. The scoring system in CM scenarios depend on how much thought the designer puts into it. Most do pretty well in that regard. I am just saying in order to make this more fun and more competitive just do a simple review of the games that were surrendered or never played and manually give them an adjusted score that makes sense. Not that difficult.

Not what I was getting at. I know how the game works. What I was trying to point out is that the people running the show should know enough to adjust scores if surrenders or no shows happen. Do not give full points for these. You cannot reward someone who gets a no show opponent or someone who decides they are beat 10 turns in and decides to surrender. Adjust their score to put it more in line with the average. Not that hard to look at the score board to see that.

You missed my point. I understand the scoring system as I have been playing since CM1. I am stating the scoring system dealing with missing players / games and surrenders / quitters is flawed. Surrenders should not be processed. Only Ceasefires. If your opponent is a no-show, not your fault nor anyone else's. You get half total points or a certain fraction that does not hurt you but does not put you 2000 points above the middle of the pack either.

So, both of you played the entire game and then instead of hitting CF you both hit Surrender? If so, you are not the only ones. Quite a few games have people scoring 2000+ points with their opponents in the low hundreds or zero. No knock on you or anyone else but they should of come up with a better scoring system / ruleset for this. Looks like this dude did not have an opponent and got a BYE. 1000 points each game which I guess is better than him taking 2000 points a game for a surrender. GameGame Total cristianwj 1000 1000 2000 BYE - - - Game 1 Game 2

Excuse my ignorance but I have been out of the CM game for awhile. I know this is not their first rodeo on CM tournaments but how is this scoring system legit? My opponent, @pulemet_maxim, played a hell of a game. Looking at this, I should have surrendered both my games to give him a better score. I understand punishing players because of "other" players sucks but rewarding them like this is worse. You guys need to adjust this before next round starts. I would say 1/4th of the points rewarded. 500 per game. That would keep this close and not discourage guys that played good games. How does that 2050-2050 score work?? Both guys decided they could not play the round so they each forfeit a game to get max points?

Am I correct to get a 2000 or 2050 in the CMCW games one has to have a forefit? So, the top guy here is numero uno because his opponent quit both games? Heckkler 4050 * 4050 * cargol 2660 * 2660 * syleril 2150 * 2150 * 4 der_butschi 2099 * 2099 * 5 DeiniolSpangle 2062 * 2062 * 6 pbem_ratdeath 2050 * 2050 * 6 pugstorm 2050 * 2050 * 8 longbow501 1752 * 1752 * 9 pulemetmaxim 975 * 975 * 10 DALBY 829 * 829 * 11 astrokitty 695 * 695 * 12 eniced73 571 * 571 *

How and Where do you let them know you cannot continue round 2? Dont want to start and leave my opponent without an opponent. Thanks.

Any way to fill in for "NO SHOWS"?

What about small bushes! Do not forget about them. They are just as good at blocking incoming rounds. Here is a screen shot from Barkman's Corner when I was just re-playing today. Looks like the round hit the tank but it actually was deflected by the bush right below it (I looked at it from several different angles). I know it is a AT rocket and I get it would explode when hitting a tree but NOT a bush. This has been around since forever too. I am guessing BF deems this a non worthy problem to put time into.

@WhiteWolf65glad you got your issue resolved. i am getting hit with the "no activations remaining" message. never did care for BF's installing issues. more complicated than it needs to be.