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    Modernrocco reacted to George MC in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    In short no objective account.
    I found  numerous on-line accounts of this action. Many of them would appear to be based on, or heavily reference, an account published on Battlefield.ru which could be found at the link below though it appears its now broke...
    The Soviet view of the Ogledow action referencing primary sources:
    http://www.battlefield.ru/royal-opponent.html
    A slightly more detailed overview of the Ogledow engagement and includes some original sketch maps showing the locations of KOd tanks. It appears to be heavily based on the original Battlefield.ru account
    http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2013/07/king-tigers-at-ogledow.html
    Discussion querying loss rates in this action:
    https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11435
     
    This link takes you to an account which attempts to debunk the whole action, I’ve added it here for err, ‘interest’:
    https://elgri.livejournal.com/10845.html
    What happened to the captured Tiger IIs from Ogledow
    http://www.battlefield.ru/was-tiger-really-king.html
    My own notes and summary:
    German tank losses in this action – three Tiger IIs destroyed - on the 12th August are confirmed by German records, but further losses in the next day or so are more challenging to reconcile with Soviet claims. That’s not to say the Soviets did not KO or capture the tanks they claimed they did, just from my research it is difficult to corroborate these claims. Thomas L. Jentz (‘Panzertruppen Vol 2’) states that 501st had 45 Tiger IIs on strength by 7th August 1944 and in ‘Germany’s Tiger Tanks – Tiger I & Tiger II: Combat Tactics’ page 153 gives a situation report that shows by the 21st August the unit had ‘only’ lost six Tiger IIs as total write offs, whilst 12 were in need of repair. Schneider in ‘Tigers in Combat I’ on page 46 confirms that the 501st lost three Tiger IIs on the 12th August 1944 and indicates that on the 13th August – “Heavy fighting and further losses. 1 tank – Tiger 002 – is captured intact by the enemy.” The German losses are noted and challenged in the Battelfield.Ru article where the author notes –“Jentz's figures are doubtful. On the battlefields near Ogledów, Mokre, and Szyldów, twelve King Tiger tanks were left behind. From the [Russian} archive records currently available, it appears that the 501st Battalion was routed…”
    It is worth noting that the German records for the 501st would appear to be contradictory as several authors provide slightly different numbers for the 501st for the end of August 1944. For example, Dennis Oliver in Dennis Oliver (‘Tiger 1 and Tiger II’ page 5) gives 501st as having 41 Tiger IIs on strength with 26 combat ready by the end of August 1944 having lost 4. Whilst Thomas L. Jentz (‘Panzertruppen Vol 2’) states that 501st had 45 Tiger IIs on strength by 7th August 1944 and in ‘Germany’s Tiger Tanks – Tiger I & Tiger II: Combat Tactics’ page 153 gives a situation report for the 31st August 1944  as 13 complete write-offs; 14 operational; and 18  in need of repair for  total of 32 Tigers. Reconciling kill claims and operational tanks is always a challenging (futile?) exercise given the various factors common to both sides such as over inflated kill claims, incorrect reports, vehicle accounting systems combined with different definitions of when a tank is ‘knocked out’.
     
    What is clear is that the combat record of the 501st during this and subsequent actions in the Sandomierz bridgehead was generally unimpressive. Possibly due to the original battalion being all but destroyed attempting to hold back Soviet attacks during Operation Bagration. Such catastrophic events would mean few of the experienced crews would survive to help form the cadre for the new unit to be rebuilt around. 
    The 501st was reconstituted on the 14th July 1944 with the new Tiger IIs but this only gave the whole unit around a month to reform and train on the new vehicles, and as a combat unit, before being sent into action – perhaps therein lays the reasons for the lacklustre performance of the new tanks and their crews through August 1944: 
    •    after the heavy losses in June 1944 the reformed 501st  consisted mainly of new recruits without combat experience and lack of thorough training due to the short time between being reformed and sent into combat;
    •    serious technical problems with the new Tiger IIs (final drives in the vehicles being especially prone to failure, especially if the driver was inexperienced);
    •    lack of experience with the new tanks and their strengths and weaknesses combined with overconfidence and overestimation of what the weapon system could achieve, especially the thick armour, often resulted in poor reconnaissance measures and a resultant poor tactical handling.
    The 501 st’s record through August 1944 was so poor that on the 22nd August 1944 Major von Legat was relieved of his command. It is also reported that he had links to the 20th July 1944 conspiracy to kill Hitler. On the 21st December 1944 the battalion was redesignated as schwere Panzer-Abteilung 424.
    It is worth mentioning that the Soviet 6th Guards Tank Corps did not have significant numerical superiority during this action. Referencing Battlefield.ru’s account – “It had the following operational tanks to face the German III Panzer-Korps assault: nine T-34-76's from the 53rd GTBr (GMc Note: Oskin’s tank appears to have been a T34-85 according to most accounts), and nine T-34-76's and ten T-34-85's from the 52nd GTBr. The 51st GTBr, positioned to the north, had eleven T-34-76's and four T-34-85's. At Staszów there were eleven JS-2 heavy tanks, and one JS-85 heavy tank from the 71st Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment.” 
    Crucially and in marked contrast to their German opponents from the 501st all their crews were seasoned and experienced armoured combat veterans. The high level of professionalism of the Soviet tank crews ensured they made excellent use of reconnaissance, took full advantage of the terrain and the tactical opportunities it afforded and ensured excellent tactical handling at all levels of the unit. 
    Hope this helps?
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    Modernrocco reacted to NPye in Berlin CMRT Map   
    New Panther, I got this from Woki Panther collection, available from a few good men and just renumbered and slightly texturised it a bit more, but perfect for 25th Panzer Grenadier Division.
     

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    Modernrocco got a reaction from George MC in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    🤪 Awesome
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    Modernrocco reacted to George MC in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    The setting

    The setting - Ogledow a view looking east - Ogledow is rear, left of centre.

    Looking west - Ogledow is rea, centre right.

    Action shot!




     
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    Modernrocco reacted to Aragorn2002 in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Could you perhaps post some screenies of the Tiger II campaign, George? Just to pas the time? 
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    Modernrocco reacted to George MC in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Neither can I! 😆
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    Modernrocco reacted to callada in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    I preordered this and will be wriggling in my chair with nervous anticipation until it is released.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Anxel Torrente in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    If you expect it to come by Christmas, you will get positively surprised when it actually shows up a bit earlier than that.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Artkin in Zitadelle Campaign   
    The breach teams should be able to move at a walking pace ahead of your men and they will detect minefields on their own. I always do it this way, and my engineers seem to take less casualties (Only if I'm negligent with my engineers) than regular troops, but not too sure about this. Moving your breach team 2 tiles a turn seems effective to me.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Blazing 88's in Battle Of Kursk Maps   
    No problem. I'll post up both as a dropbox links in this thread once they are uploaded.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Blazing 88's in Battle Of Kursk Maps   
    I'll host these links for a few days. Get them while they are HOT!! And a big thanks to the creators of both of these campaigns!
    Thunder Over Ponyri:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0at3bcstky8yasx/Thunder Over Ponyri.zip?dl=0
    Zitadelle:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/hoo2hfyvb6yvk72/Zitadelle.zip?dl=0
    Kursk mod pack is included with the Zitadelle zip, parts of which can be used in both campaigns.
     
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    Modernrocco reacted to Blazing 88's in Battle Of Kursk Maps   
    Sounds great!
    Just have to check but I assume you already have the two campaigns created for those battles? One campaign is called 'Zitadelle' the other 'Thunder Over Ponyri'.
    If you don't have them I can send a link your way if you would like them? You wouldn't want to miss these!! 🙂
    You can also use the campaign to scenario app that is available to convert the campaigns to single scenarios.
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    Modernrocco reacted to DesertFox in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    2nd that sentiment.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Aragorn2002 in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Time to release it. 
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    Modernrocco got a reaction from Karp_K in Bleeding into real life...   
    Recon Recon Recon
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    Modernrocco reacted to Vergeltungswaffe in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    You are correct and NOLA is not in Texas.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Vacillator in Breakthrough to Kovel, my unintentional story/aar/review   
    Great shot, I love using mobile AA in ground role use, whether 37mm or quad 20s.  Had one of the above at Baranovichi in a PBEM and it was one of the stars of the show.
    Not nice to be on the receiving end of course.  Another example is the US M16 'meat chopper' with quad 50 cals - scary stuff.
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    Modernrocco got a reaction from Zeleban in How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?   
    Putin still has one card up his sleeve he can play, send in segal!
     
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    Modernrocco reacted to Artkin in Newcomer Question(s)   
    CMRT has so much content your mind will explode.
    No, but you will pretty much never play through everything in CMRT + the expansions, + all the user created content. CMFB wasn't too far behind, but now it will be years behind CMRT after preorders are finally over with and the new battle pack releases! 14(? I forget) new master maps! Campaigns that you can break down into regular scenarios and edit them.. etc.. compile them back into a campaign... and they're GeorgeMC maps... they are the best of the best! Dude!
    By the way you can download custom made maps from other games (CMFI, CMRT) and convert them by using Hex Editor (
    ) giving you a near endless supply of scenarios if that wasn't enough. For CMBN, only maps from CMBS, CMRT, CMFB, CMCW, and maybe CMFI should work. And even then, there are some exceptions. You can learn them if you get into mapmaking.
    Games like CMFI are quirky, and only certain maps will convert to certain games. I'm not sure why. The newer games are all mostly compatible. Cold War will take map conversions like a champion, seemingly no errors with CMBS and friends, but still unable to accept CMFI maps (Last I remember).
    There is a Monte Cassino map on the forums here if you want to download that, by Sburke, good map! It's a huge *** mountain with a town under it. You can convert that to your games for free.
    CMRT's files with all the current updates and doodads before the new preorder is sitting at 16.3GB. I think only CMBN, and CMSF2 are similar in size, but CMSF2 is old. Once CMBS gets the marines from CMSF2, and airborne Ukraine/Russian forces, then that will be the next "Game".
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    Modernrocco reacted to Codreanu in Newcomer Question(s)   
    +1 on getting CMRT next, if you're at all interested in the Eastern front. The amount of good content for it is INSANE, and it feels like a completely different game from CMBN.
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    Modernrocco reacted to Vacillator in Super Hans   
    Going back to the discussion in the other thread, I'm going to open a ticket reporting a bug in the censorship software.
    How can shaking my *** (that's my rear end, just to be clear) be censored, but someone calling me a wanker is not?  That's a bug right?
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    Modernrocco got a reaction from George MC in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Now off to watch many episodes of Peep Show, Good English Culturing today, I wont stray to far from the Thread focus.. I seen where George said that the Kampgruppe Muhlenkamp Book was inspiration, Photographs by Ernst Baumann, Those look to be some of the finest world war 2 combat photography I imagine, I'll definitely be shelling out the 100 and some odd dollars for the book, Definitely looks like a must need in the Literature collection.
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    Modernrocco got a reaction from Aragorn2002 in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Now off to watch many episodes of Peep Show, Good English Culturing today, I wont stray to far from the Thread focus.. I seen where George said that the Kampgruppe Muhlenkamp Book was inspiration, Photographs by Ernst Baumann, Those look to be some of the finest world war 2 combat photography I imagine, I'll definitely be shelling out the 100 and some odd dollars for the book, Definitely looks like a must need in the Literature collection.
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    Modernrocco got a reaction from Lucky_Strike in Combat Mission Red Thunder Battle Pack 1 pre-orders are now open   
    Now off to watch many episodes of Peep Show, Good English Culturing today, I wont stray to far from the Thread focus.. I seen where George said that the Kampgruppe Muhlenkamp Book was inspiration, Photographs by Ernst Baumann, Those look to be some of the finest world war 2 combat photography I imagine, I'll definitely be shelling out the 100 and some odd dollars for the book, Definitely looks like a must need in the Literature collection.
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