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Phil are you being serious???? Not everyone is having this problem? I don't see how anyone playing the Engle campaign isn't having the problem. Is it computer specific? And if this is a minor rare bug then what's a common big bug?

Phil thanks for responding. My question is how did the red button crash bug not get noticed before 1.10 was released? I and others noticed it hours after we purchased CWmod that's what frustrates me about CMBN and CMSF is the obvious bugs slip through the cracks and make it to the patch.

I agree and this is my only problem with the BF crew. They make a great product but there is a massive bug included they fix the massive bug but won't release a hot fix. So you have to wait six months plus for a full blown patch that may introduce another bug so the cycle never ends. This has happened with CMSF as well and I whined about it then too. In my opinion the "red button bug" is really the only bug that needs immediate attention for a hot fix the other ones aren't as major. But it's a great game non-the-less.

A work around is to give it a cover arc in the direction u want to shoot. Then once rotated in the right direction give the fire order.

Search the tech support forum cause I had the same problem as you when I bought the NATO mod. I believe I fixed my problem by un-installing the whole game then installed one by one. But check tech support forum for sure.

I have the CW mod with 1.10 and can tell you there's a problem with it so they may be trying to fix that before mass release. The problem is that if you save your setup and exit the game when u come back u cant load that saved file. Someone mentioned it may be due to barbed wire in certain scenarios.

By license do you mean download key? If so that's only good for a year after purchase. I ran into the same problem so I re-purchased the marine mod only to find out later that I had the mod disk in my game drawer.

In my experience with the Brits and Canucks they give a really good showing of themselves (in game). I think the problem may lay with the level of motivation that most of the Germans have in the scenarios that have been released with the game. I have pounded German squads, teams, etc. with loads of fire power but they typically hold their ground until they are killed/over whelmed. I really don’t have a problem though with the scenario designer giving some German units high motivation. I just played the scenario where the Canucks attacked the 12th SS in Buron (excellent scenario) and the Germans just wouldn’t give up their defensive positions until they were dead. I ended up inflicting more casualties on them in the end but still a real tough fight. So I don’t think the problem lies with the Common Wealth troop’s equipment it’s just the Germs don’t break as easy. I’d be interested to see how a US force does in the previously mentioned scenario I don’t think it’d be much different. But just like CMSF the allies have different ideas about war so their troops are outfitted with different equipment so different tactics are needed for each. I just can’t wait for an east front game so I can fight in towns with properly equipped SMG squads.

Just showing my support as well.... love your mod and cant wait for the CW version.

Same thing happens with MGs deployed on a crest they just keep firing into the crest in front of them.

I think it would be gamey if the defender arty the attackers set up zone because its generally confined to a small area. Other than that bombs away.

Hi George, wanted to bring this thread back to the front page to let you know I'm interested as well in this battle. Any idea on when it will be ready for consuption?

Bold statement, so tell me how many T-34's or any other Soviet equipment did the USA and her little buddies use to defeat the Nazi’s? None but I do know that the Soviets used equipment the USA and the UK gave them such as tanks, trucks etc…… Plus I do know Stalin was begging the Allies to start an offensive push so as to relieve pressure on his forces. The Allies were also fighting in the Pacific, something the Soviets weren’t. The Russians only had one front while the US/UK had multiple fronts to contend with. I do agree though, the Soviets had to endure the greater part of the German military machine due to poor decisions Stalin made before the war and it is a shame more people aren’t well versed on the east front because it is a very interesting study. For a war game it is far more interesting and diverse in my opinion. I truly don’t understand how anyone would consider it boring.

Thanks for the quick responses. The only I've really seen anyone grip about was how accurate tank fire was but I have tried the demo and didn't seem to experience the same problem. I will purchase the game shortly.

I am wondering if this game is more bug free than CMSF at release? I'm asking cause I'm thinking of purchasing this game now or if I should wait a bit.

True but I just think about all the great skins of yours for cmbb and am dying to see what you have in store with the updated graphics and all for my T-34’s.

I'm a huge Ost front gaming fan myself and would have preferred something dealing with the east front first but Normandy will be cool as well. I realize that the countries that fought on the west front are likely the largest revenue base for cm games in modern times i.e. US, Commonwealth and Germany but………. I just don’t understand how someone prefers the west front compared to the east front. The east front was so much more epic in my opinion, it spanned a greater time frame and more varied terrain compared to the west front. I really hope they decide to release three east front titles, an early war (Operation Barbarossa), a mid war (Kursk or Stalingrad time frame either one) and a late war (drive on Berlin or a tad bit earlier). I really enjoy the early time frame of PZIII’s going up against early T-34’s and KV’s as much as I do the later time frame of big cats doing battle with big stalins. Not to mention all the awesome small arms and field/tanks guns.

Erwin I’m done trying to be civil with you. Some of us out here have real life military experiences that are not the same as yours sitting in the controlled environment of a library reading a book which is sometimes second or third hand info. This is also a reason that I seriously doubt a book worm like you would have any girlfriends that I remind you of. Set aside that, what about me wanting to know when a product that I already purchased is going to be fixed is girlish? You said yourself if you knew it was an issue you wouldn’t have started the campaign, sounds pretty contradictory to me. Another thing quit quoting someone else’s real life experiences because frankly I could care less what you read. It has nothing to do with a video game maker leaving certain parts of the TOE out of the game and if you can’t realize this then maybe I need to write a book and put it in your library so you would think my argument valid and manish. Now if BFC had a realism tab where sometimes some of your equipment didn’t show up that would be fine but that isn’t the case. It’s not like I’m complaining about one of my vehicles getting hit and immobilized by the enemy and now I can’t drive it anymore, I’m arguing about something being left out entirely.

Erwin you seem like a nice fellow but I know nothing more about you than what you post. And I don’t think you know me either, surely not enough to insult me with a line like the one I have in the quote there. I don’t feel it’s necessary to list my RL experiences in order for people to believe that I know how things go in RL. I will break down your comment though and clarify my position as hopefully this will be my last post on the issue; I’m not familiar with the SAS battery problem, though it sounds like a packing issue which happens all the time with items that are of second or third tier importance. The way I read your statement is, they forgot to pack batteries in their shipping containers from London to Kuwait? My statement is in regards to things that you would have on your person as you’re going to a fire fight. That equipment you would check and re-check. All of this is a different issue than my issue of the hot fix. I know BFC won’t release a hot fix unless it’s an issue of the game wont start. I just don’t think it would be a big deal to release a small hot fix that would include radios and charges (something they have acknowledged they have already fixed) so that certain forces wouldn’t be without standard equipment. Hence for some of us screamers, these forces wouldn’t be unplayable. Lastly I have no hard feeling towards anyone and I hope I didn’t inspire hard feel towards me, this was not my intention. I thought I injected enough comedy in my post to make people realize I wasn’t having a heart attack, I guess I need new comedy writers. BFC you have created a great game that I really enjoy minus these few issues.

1. Its not real life. 2. In real life you would check and re-check your equipment. If you forgot your charges that would be a huge mistake, second only to forgetting your main weapon. And if you forgot your radio you’d be fired and sent to the quartermasters shop. 3. All this screaming????????? What are you talking about? I didn’t realize my post were audible. But if they were I can assure you they wouldn’t be screams. 4. Why does the BFC militia come out and start accusing other posters of screaming because they want the game to be fixed. I haven’t bashed BFC, quiet the contrary, I stated several times that I love BFC. I just want a hot fix for a problem that has already been fixed. That’s all.

Yes, in another thread Moon or Steve stated they were most likely going to release the 1.31 instead of 1.30 to everyone at the same time. @ Paper Tiger First I’d like to say I’m a big fan of yours. The low wall bug is just an example as is path finding etc……. If I pay for a sandwich at a sandwich shop and the shop messes my order up and their only excuse is “keep in mind we are working on a few other sandwiches at the moment” do you think that will make me feel great? No it won’t because I already paid for my sandwich. The only thing that will keep me coming back to that shop is if the sandwich is overall awesome, which BFC makes an overall great sandwich/game. I want to state clearly that I really do love BFC and I don’t think these issues are the end of the world but I usually don’t have a ton of free time. When I do, I just want to unwind instead of getting fired up.

Did you read my post? What’s unreasonable about a hot fix to problem they’ve already acknowledged they have a fix too? Usually it takes them a while to release a patch because they want to tweak things that aren’t game breaking issues as well as fix know problems. That’s why they should release a hot fix to take care of the problems immediately. Do you remember the low wall bug?????? This made the game absolutely unplayable. Well that didn’t get fixing immediately either because we had to wait for a full blown patch instead of a hot fix and we had to wait a long time for that patch. You posted:"And I don't know why you deleted your campaigns." Again, did you read my post or yours where you posted " The C2 bug is killing me (and it extends to other modules, not just NATO)." Look it sounds like you are a huge fan of BFC's and I am too it's just frustrating when they release something, it has a problem, they have a fix for the problem but they don't release the fix for six to eight weeks until the more difficult non-game breaking tweaks are completed. By the way they said they would release 1.31 to everyone instead of 1.30. So hopefully this will be completed soon?????

Any time frame on this patch? I have erased my Canadian campaign when I realized the engineers don’t have charges and my Dutch campaign cause the radio issues. Now for the token grip: I don't get why each module gets the release date pushed back so many times due to "working out bugs". Yet when the game gets released, I and many others within the first five minutes of playing the game find all these nagging little bugs that are game breakers. Sure the game functions but like I mentioned the maple leaf boys have no charges and the first three of missions of their campaign (which is all I got to before I couldn't deal with the no charges issue anymore) you really need those charges. Finally BFC if you know these are problems why not release a hot fix to fix these few problems so that I can fully enjoy/play the game which I've spent well over $150 for? I know what everyone is going to say "oh you're over reacting BFC will fix this" and I agree, my grip is the fact that they release a hot fix and the problem will be solved instead of the days keep passing without me getting to use the full product of my purchase.

Noticed this as well. I also noticed that the Canadian recce Coyote vehicles have loads or cool rockets and ammo but there is no way I have found of accessing the ammo or rockets.

Thanks I'll have to do that. Go figure the only mod I don't purchase a DL and hard copy of.