Lucky_Strike

Sorry to interject here but I can see the need for a modded flavour object - kettle, couple of mugs and a nice little tea caddy - come on there must be someone out there who can make this? 

Did this one involve a Mars bar, or was it a Marathon? (Snickers to you young folk out there).
Amazing what one can learn on here. 

Yes there are uses for sure. I need to try with a few variations to see if the strange colour flicking, reappearing and disappearing affects the natural colours as well.
I fully understand your frustration with the lack of thickets. Woods/forest edges are a very underrepresented area (at least visually) in the game. In the real world they are an especially challenging area for LOS largely because of the change from light to dark, both looking out from as well as into. Using trees precludes the placing of bushes in the same spot, but not hedges, so maybe something could be done with the hedge texture and 3D model. I really like your idea of using hedges, but if we mod them it will obviously only work if the hedges aren’t used elsewhere in the map as normal hedges. I do have some new brush doodad textures which add a bit more visual fullness when used with trees in woods, but I’m not certain about things like LOS through them.
I suppose another possibility would be flavour objects, but am I right in thinking these don’t affect LOS or movement?
 

Not sure most of these will cut it - just the Panther IR and perhaps the Borgward ...







 
Please note - none of these are available as mods - yet ...

His name was Warty, he was quite naughty
With yellow feathers in his hat and a dress cut down to there
He would merengue and do the cha-cha ...
This is just a bit too silly - I shall now refrain from posting pictures of the plastic one.
 
@benpark @Falaise I did a quick experiment with trees and bushes leaves textures to see if each individual type could have several textures for leaves, and surprisingly they can! I'm not sure what I can do with this, maybe have one type of tree that has less leaves - might be more useful for autumn or spring to have trees with some leaves and some bare branches. There are caveats though: I noticed when I tried with a strong colour, the engine seems to display the trees and bushes with just one, or the other colour, until the camera moves quite close, then it can flick between the two colours or do other odd stuff. It may work differently on different GPUs or with different colours. I didn't notice it when I had natural leaf colours, so will have to take another look, perhaps with bare branches.

Oaky plane tree, notice the oak leaves top let and middle right

Oaky plane tree, quite well mixed

Oaky plane trees, but only the front two, the rest show just plane

Oaky plane trees, should all be mixed but very strange

A two tone bush
The numbering for the bmps was: tree-1-leaves 2.bmp and bush-2-leaves 2.bmp. I presume tree-1-leaves 3.bmp etc could also work, but I didn't try.
Anyway an intriguing discovery (at least to this foliage nerd 🌳).
 
 

I aim to please. I meant to show a with and without ReShade (is without ReShade what you mean by 'natural'?), but I must have changed something 'cos ReShade didn't produce a with and without screenshot like I usually get. It's late so these are all with ReShade - mostly sunny plus a couple in the rain - latter are probably a bit closer to the normal colours in game. These all feature four textures except the last which is repeated for @Warts 'n' all's pleasure 🤩
Low bocage ...

Tall bocage ...

More Tall bocage ...

Close up ...

Wet bocage, trees hidden ...

More soggy bocage along a lane ...

 
 
 
Ohh, and Barry Bocage ...

 
Very close my friend!

But, but 😭 how can we assault the Reichstag without the Zoo flak tower 128mm guns blowing the turrets off our IS2's?

His name was Warty, he was quite naughty
With yellow feathers in his hat and a dress cut down to there
He would merengue and do the cha-cha ...
This is just a bit too silly - I shall now refrain from posting pictures of the plastic one.
 
@benpark @Falaise I did a quick experiment with trees and bushes leaves textures to see if each individual type could have several textures for leaves, and surprisingly they can! I'm not sure what I can do with this, maybe have one type of tree that has less leaves - might be more useful for autumn or spring to have trees with some leaves and some bare branches. There are caveats though: I noticed when I tried with a strong colour, the engine seems to display the trees and bushes with just one, or the other colour, until the camera moves quite close, then it can flick between the two colours or do other odd stuff. It may work differently on different GPUs or with different colours. I didn't notice it when I had natural leaf colours, so will have to take another look, perhaps with bare branches.

Oaky plane tree, notice the oak leaves top let and middle right

Oaky plane tree, quite well mixed

Oaky plane trees, but only the front two, the rest show just plane

Oaky plane trees, should all be mixed but very strange

A two tone bush
The numbering for the bmps was: tree-1-leaves 2.bmp and bush-2-leaves 2.bmp. I presume tree-1-leaves 3.bmp etc could also work, but I didn't try.
Anyway an intriguing discovery (at least to this foliage nerd 🌳).
 
 

But, but 😭 how can we assault the Reichstag without the Zoo flak tower 128mm guns blowing the turrets off our IS2's?

I aim to please. I meant to show a with and without ReShade (is without ReShade what you mean by 'natural'?), but I must have changed something 'cos ReShade didn't produce a with and without screenshot like I usually get. It's late so these are all with ReShade - mostly sunny plus a couple in the rain - latter are probably a bit closer to the normal colours in game. These all feature four textures except the last which is repeated for @Warts 'n' all's pleasure 🤩
Low bocage ...

Tall bocage ...

More Tall bocage ...

Close up ...

Wet bocage, trees hidden ...

More soggy bocage along a lane ...

 
 
 
Ohh, and Barry Bocage ...

 
Very close my friend!

Ooh, yes please, with some of those juicy twin-mounted 12.8 cm FlaK 40's
Awesome maps @benpark!

It hasn't killed me yet. The perfectionist in me learnt to let go years ago, but sometimes he comes back to remind me he's still lurking inside ... 🤪
When I'm done with this you'll be able to mix'n'match the bocage to your hearts content. Just a case of a bit of renumbering/renaming any modded textures following the numbering that we have come up with. Not sure how many bocage textures you can have, but I suggest keep going until it breaks the game 😉 
 

I aim to please. I meant to show a with and without ReShade (is without ReShade what you mean by 'natural'?), but I must have changed something 'cos ReShade didn't produce a with and without screenshot like I usually get. It's late so these are all with ReShade - mostly sunny plus a couple in the rain - latter are probably a bit closer to the normal colours in game. These all feature four textures except the last which is repeated for @Warts 'n' all's pleasure 🤩
Low bocage ...

Tall bocage ...

More Tall bocage ...

Close up ...

Wet bocage, trees hidden ...

More soggy bocage along a lane ...

 
 
 
Ohh, and Barry Bocage ...

 
Very close my friend!

I aim to please. I meant to show a with and without ReShade (is without ReShade what you mean by 'natural'?), but I must have changed something 'cos ReShade didn't produce a with and without screenshot like I usually get. It's late so these are all with ReShade - mostly sunny plus a couple in the rain - latter are probably a bit closer to the normal colours in game. These all feature four textures except the last which is repeated for @Warts 'n' all's pleasure 🤩
Low bocage ...

Tall bocage ...

More Tall bocage ...

Close up ...

Wet bocage, trees hidden ...

More soggy bocage along a lane ...

 
 
 
Ohh, and Barry Bocage ...

 
Very close my friend!

That’s a shame. I did try extra marsh doodads last night whilst I was working on them, they didn’t appear in-game either. So odd that the bocage leaves work. I guess extra bocage textures were something that perhaps BF toyed with when they were first making CMBN.
I have started making extra bocage textures and the results are quite promising so far. Have now got four bocage textures which, combined, do start to make the bocage look more varied.

Nooooooo!!! I’d never be finished with this thing ... So close now, crops are all done, marsh to make, the extra bocage and we’re done🙏

@Falaise I tried this in the past and it didn't work for me, so I just had another go and YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! GENIUS!!!
What I discovered, in a quick and colourful experiment, is that the numbering is somewhat odd, but we can indeed have a (probably unlimited) number of extra bocage textures which I don't think will impact on framerate, maybe it'll have an impact on load times. The numbering goes like this:
boccage.bmp; boccage2.bmp; boccage 2.bmp; boccage 3.bmp; boccage 4.bmp; boccage 5.bmp; boccage 6.bmp; ... 
I stopped at seven textures but as you can see it's possible that we can have loads of different textures - which means I can do a few more to add quite a bit of variety - possibly some thinner, some deadwood, heavy branches ... dammit more work, nevermind, it'll make this hedgerow nerd happier.
In the meantime here's a screenshot of some quick multiple bocage textures numbered as above ...

 
And someone was so impressed he's using them as is:

@Vacilllator not sure where Mr Wittmann could hide his Tiger here ...
 

Here's a test from Imgur:

😁 shameless plug for my Hedgerow Hell mod.
I'm always running out of space in my attachments allocation. @Warts 'n' all is correct in that you can delete older attached images to free up space, and the images will stay embedded in the forum BUT this only seems to happen after a certain amount of time. Delete the images attachments too soon and they seem to disappear for good. I think the images embed after perhaps a month or two, maybe when they are archived or some such. I've deleted some after a few weeks and they disappeared never to be seen again, and because we can't edit posts after a given time the post will forever be without images - very annoying if you try to read older posts to follow a thread or some useful advice.
I appreciate that BF provide the forums for free to us, but storage is very cheap now and it's a shame that such a useful resource can get scrambled over time - I guess the Internet Archive may have older versions of the site saved WITH images. I digress and this doesn't help you now.
Is there a limit in Imgur? I just joined so have only got a few images on there.
 

Yes, the link to my image was https fo’shizzle. The link generated by Imgur was that by default. YMMV
 

Here's a test from Imgur:

😁 shameless plug for my Hedgerow Hell mod.
I'm always running out of space in my attachments allocation. @Warts 'n' all is correct in that you can delete older attached images to free up space, and the images will stay embedded in the forum BUT this only seems to happen after a certain amount of time. Delete the images attachments too soon and they seem to disappear for good. I think the images embed after perhaps a month or two, maybe when they are archived or some such. I've deleted some after a few weeks and they disappeared never to be seen again, and because we can't edit posts after a given time the post will forever be without images - very annoying if you try to read older posts to follow a thread or some useful advice.
I appreciate that BF provide the forums for free to us, but storage is very cheap now and it's a shame that such a useful resource can get scrambled over time - I guess the Internet Archive may have older versions of the site saved WITH images. I digress and this doesn't help you now.
Is there a limit in Imgur? I just joined so have only got a few images on there.
 

Note that I am not advocating a public bug tracking system. Don't really care about that.
But what I find really questionable is that whenever a bug is reported by an ordinary forum user, and there is a reply with a request for a screenshot or save file. Then that ordinary forum user cannot directly attach it due to the forum policy on attachment sizes. For me that means I will explain a bug in writing no problem, but principally will not put in any effort to transfer any image or save.

So, neither boccage1.bmp nor boccage 1.bmp appear, nor does boccage .bmp. Having them in your mod folder has no impact on the game nor what is displayed, ie all the other bocage textures show if for example boccage1.bmp is present. No idea why both boccage 2.bmp and boccage2.bmp work, something hardcoded for boccage2.bmp I guess. This all means I'm good to go on more bocage textures 🌳🌿🌳🌳🌿😎

As I said GENIUS!
Keep a look out for the next release Rob, should be out before Ire & Rubble.

So, neither boccage1.bmp nor boccage 1.bmp appear, nor does boccage .bmp. Having them in your mod folder has no impact on the game nor what is displayed, ie all the other bocage textures show if for example boccage1.bmp is present. No idea why both boccage 2.bmp and boccage2.bmp work, something hardcoded for boccage2.bmp I guess. This all means I'm good to go on more bocage textures 🌳🌿🌳🌳🌿😎

LMAO 😂 I can see a whole new mod set coming out of this!