MSBoxer

What about an intervention by our new space lobster overlords?  Are we still good on that?

I would think a coordinated ATACMS/Storm Shadow attack would seriously tax any air defense with radically different attack profiles and increase likelihood of success.

Similar to the US at Midway,  although it was unplanned.  Get the defenders to focus on one attack vector and hit them from another.  In this case I would reverse and get the eyes up with ATACMS then hit them low with shadows.

It would be expensive, but soooo worth it.

I would think a coordinated ATACMS/Storm Shadow attack would seriously tax any air defense with radically different attack profiles and increase likelihood of success.

Similar to the US at Midway,  although it was unplanned.  Get the defenders to focus on one attack vector and hit them from another.  In this case I would reverse and get the eyes up with ATACMS then hit them low with shadows.

It would be expensive, but soooo worth it.

Follow up…ok, I think I have got the only solution that makes any sense: Putin and Prig are in love but cannot admit it to each other or themselves.  Only a rom-com scenario makes any sense in what we have seen - hear me out (and yes I am sober as I type this) 
Prig and Putin have known each other for years - him a working class ex-con trying to go straight, Putin a golden haired princess who is so lonely at the top.  They have been sharing stolen glances and smiles for years but neither has the courage…their worlds are too far apart.  Prig is desperate to get Putin to really see him, instead of a boom box outside in the rain he rolls up to Moscow with T90s and MLRS.  It was a romantic gesture of the highest order.  A demonstration of power and masculinity while being vulnerable at the same time.
Putin, like a sexy fox, flees to St Petersburg to hold up with a couple girlfriends…he can’t cope with all this - it is too much too fast.  He is into Prig but the man is both intoxicating and terrifying.  Putin throws out threats but he really does not mean them, inside his heart is pounding - should he?  He mustn’t.  He is so confused right now.  Should he call in airstrikes or run out on the M4 into his man’s arms?
Prig is wailing into the night with an electric guitar (and AD systems), he is in love so hard it hurts.  He bashes out With or Without You by U2…Russia holds it breath, the two star crossed lovers both in love and hate at the same time.  They resent each other for making that love into something that threatens to consume them both.  Finally Lushenko, a girlfriend to both from way back I the day talks them both off the ledge - “you are both love struck fools, stop now before you say something you cannot take back!”
Prig realizes it first.  Putin is a fox to be lured and must feel in control.  Prig has come on too strong.  He dials it back, goes back to the dorm and tells all the guys “he totally scored” but inside he is tortured by the waiting game.  
Putin has fooled himself that he is back in charge but deep inside knows it is too late.  He says strong words but everyone at work knows the truth - FFS would they just do it already.  Their love is self-destructive and wholly doomed but neither can look away - it is a storm that must happen….to be continued.

As I sit reading today's posts, my house has been rocked by low flying F-16s, F-22s and an assortment of other aircraft.  Fortunately, it is all in prep for this weekend's Quad City Airshow.  As I run from my desk every few minutes to catch a glimpse, I also realize how lucky I am to experience this as entertainment and not during wartime use.  

This **** in Ukraine needs to end and Putin needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is.  Hell, empty the whole infected kennel and eradicate the entire breed of those that use force to satisfy their own twisted desires.

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

How disturbing is it that I am sitting here giggling like a little girl with a new my little pony as I read updates about the potential mutiny in Russia?
 

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

As I sit reading today's posts, my house has been rocked by low flying F-16s, F-22s and an assortment of other aircraft.  Fortunately, it is all in prep for this weekend's Quad City Airshow.  As I run from my desk every few minutes to catch a glimpse, I also realize how lucky I am to experience this as entertainment and not during wartime use.  

This **** in Ukraine needs to end and Putin needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is.  Hell, empty the whole infected kennel and eradicate the entire breed of those that use force to satisfy their own twisted desires.

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

How disturbing is it that I am sitting here giggling like a little girl with a new my little pony as I read updates about the potential mutiny in Russia?
 

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

How the hell am I now rooting for PRIG in any way, shape or form?????  What multiverse have I entered?

Somewhat ironic that a group called Wagner is trying to pull a operation Valkyrie

How disturbing is it that I am sitting here giggling like a little girl with a new my little pony as I read updates about the potential mutiny in Russia?
 

How disturbing is it that I am sitting here giggling like a little girl with a new my little pony as I read updates about the potential mutiny in Russia?
 

How disturbing is it that I am sitting here giggling like a little girl with a new my little pony as I read updates about the potential mutiny in Russia?
 

As I sit reading today's posts, my house has been rocked by low flying F-16s, F-22s and an assortment of other aircraft.  Fortunately, it is all in prep for this weekend's Quad City Airshow.  As I run from my desk every few minutes to catch a glimpse, I also realize how lucky I am to experience this as entertainment and not during wartime use.  

This **** in Ukraine needs to end and Putin needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is.  Hell, empty the whole infected kennel and eradicate the entire breed of those that use force to satisfy their own twisted desires.

For what it is worth.

I have considerable time flying the KA50 in DCS and it is remarkably easy to get within 10km of your target using terrain masking.  With the numerous tree lines in southern Ukraine, I would think it would be easy to get an experienced single or two ship formation into position.  Then all you need is a relatively small gap in the trees to designate and fire, sometimes there is no need to even pop up.  That close to ground clutter it would be hard for any ground-based system to acquire and lock.

Now, if you have air superiority the game changes.  Any aircraft with look down/shoot down capability can really ruin your day.

Of course, this is all based upon video game experience, but then again isn't why most of us are here?

For what it is worth.

I have considerable time flying the KA50 in DCS and it is remarkably easy to get within 10km of your target using terrain masking.  With the numerous tree lines in southern Ukraine, I would think it would be easy to get an experienced single or two ship formation into position.  Then all you need is a relatively small gap in the trees to designate and fire, sometimes there is no need to even pop up.  That close to ground clutter it would be hard for any ground-based system to acquire and lock.

Now, if you have air superiority the game changes.  Any aircraft with look down/shoot down capability can really ruin your day.

Of course, this is all based upon video game experience, but then again isn't why most of us are here?

For what it is worth.

I have considerable time flying the KA50 in DCS and it is remarkably easy to get within 10km of your target using terrain masking.  With the numerous tree lines in southern Ukraine, I would think it would be easy to get an experienced single or two ship formation into position.  Then all you need is a relatively small gap in the trees to designate and fire, sometimes there is no need to even pop up.  That close to ground clutter it would be hard for any ground-based system to acquire and lock.

Now, if you have air superiority the game changes.  Any aircraft with look down/shoot down capability can really ruin your day.

Of course, this is all based upon video game experience, but then again isn't why most of us are here?

For more even more excitement, have it transmit random bursts of "encoded" radio traffic.  then sit back and watch as they attempt to identify and neutralize the special forces that have infiltrated their positions

I think our president is blessed to have a skilled staff and some great advisors, especially regarding Ukraine.  I personally think that his cognitive abilities have slipped over the last decade as seen in some of his off the cuff statements and the apparent need for him to be "handled" more than in the past.  

This is not political, just an observation of his behavior compared to in the past.