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Re the Canadians in Afghanistan photos:

WOW!!! :eek: :D

Brand New LAV-IIIs with add-on armor & full-size 2 man 20mm gun turret! ...with coaxial AND roof mounted 7.62 mg!

I wonder if the Canadian LAV-III weighs more or less than the U.S. Stryker, even with the turret. Canadians probably didn't go for full 14.5mm hvy mg armor protection.

Also about the Stryker in Bagdhad photo - If no new vehicles were shipped over it looks like 1-72nd and 3-2nd Stryker brigades have divvied-up the in-country Strykers between them.

[ August 22, 2006, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: MikeyD ]

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What armaments are on that Canadian LAV?

I can see a main cannon, a smaller cannon above it, a coax mg and it looks like several mg gun barrels mounted on top of the turret behind the main gun, though I assume there is only one mg there. Must be a weird angle.

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Two Soldiers with fires platoon, Troop A, 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment, pull security in Al Dora, Aug. 11. Their platoon patrols through the muhallahs, conducting security operations to help rid of sectarian violence. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. James P. Hunter, MNC-I PAO)
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A U.S. Army soldier, assigned to 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment, 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, enters a mosque suspected of being a safe-haven for insurgents in the Adhamiyah district of Baghdad, Iraq, Aug. 27, 2006. U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Eli J. Medellin
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Originally posted by akd:

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Is one of these guys about 7 foot tall or is the other guy a Dwarf?

This is one thing i have noticed in a load of photos and footage from Iraq. You yanks seem to be shrinking.

There seems to be lot of very short guys in your forces now.

Do you any sort of mininum size or is it based on ability to carry stuff and general fittness.

Edited cause i can't speel to save my life

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Be careful taking camera images at face value. Judging by the warping of the horizon line in the background and other factors, I'd say those pictures were taken with a pretty wide-angle lens, which can skew your perception of height and distance.

Guy in the background may well be shorter, but my guess is that the height difference between the two guys is not as extreme as the photo might make you think.

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Wide-angle lens. They have become increasingly popular with photojournalists over the years, and switching to digital spurred they're use further. Where once a 35mm lense was considered "wide", now a 18mm lens is quite common.

A 50mm lense is roughly equivalent to normal eyesight.

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"18mm lens is quite common" 18mm lens is equivalent to 35mm on many digital slr cameras where ccd sensor area is smaller than the actual frame size of traditional 35mm film plate - hence the lens is wider but the focal length remains eqivalent to a longer lens.

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Originally posted by cassh:

"18mm lens is quite common" 18mm lens is equivalent to 35mm on many digital slr cameras where ccd sensor area is smaller than the actual frame size of traditional 35mm film plate - hence the lens is wider but the focal length remains eqivalent to a longer lens.

Yes, this helped push even wider lenses. A 12-24mm zoom lens on a typical digital format is roughly equivalent to a 18-35mm lens on a 35mm format film camera. 18-35mm lenses were pretty popular with pros before the switch to digital. Using the 18mm end was considered a bit much, but not at all uncommon, especially for news photos.

Of course, this is not an issue for the newest "pro" digital cameras with "full-frame" sensors, like the Canon EOS-1D.

edit - quick search yields this simple primer:

The smaller the format, the shorter the focal length needs to be for any given angle of view. On a a digital SLR like the Canon D60 a standard lens is about 31mm in focal length.

Here is the rub. We are attempting to use lenses designed for a bigger format. This is fine up to a point, after all there are plenty of 28mm lenses around to give us an equivalent standard lens. Problems arise when we want to go for a wider angle lens as there simply are none in the range of currently manufactured lenses. There are 14mm lenses around but any wider and they are all fisheye lenses.

There is a good reason for this – these lenses were designed for 35mm format cameras! 14mm is superwide in that format and very expensive to make as well. People complain that they have to spend many thousands of dollars to get a half decent wide lens. This is true, but the real reason is that it is hard to make a lens of such a short focal length that allows the mirror clearance of a normal 35mm body. The established design of ‘normal’ 35mm bodies has imposed a huge limitation optically and that is the crux of the issue.

Camera manufacturers have produced DSLRs that can utilize the existing lenses of photographers – this is a good thing. However there is a price to pay for this convenience and that it the range of angles of view of the lenses has shifted UP towards the telephoto end. That is purely a consequence of the SMALLER format – nothing else has changed.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/dslr-mag.shtml

[ August 31, 2006, 06:56 PM: Message edited by: akd ]

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Originally posted by YankeeDog:

Be careful taking camera images at face value. Judging by the warping of the horizon line in the background and other factors, I'd say those pictures were taken with a pretty wide-angle lens, which can skew your perception of height and distance.

Guy in the background may well be shorter, but my guess is that the height difference between the two guys is not as extreme as the photo might make you think.

I don't think the lens comes into this at all.The guy in the background is standing slightly behind the tall one.Look at the shadows to see how far away he is.

Its not just this photo any way.

I have seen many images from iraq and the like where you seem to be recruiting a load of short arses for you forces.

Is there not a minimum size now.

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Originally posted by gautrek:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by YankeeDog:

Be careful taking camera images at face value. Judging by the warping of the horizon line in the background and other factors, I'd say those pictures were taken with a pretty wide-angle lens, which can skew your perception of height and distance.

Guy in the background may well be shorter, but my guess is that the height difference between the two guys is not as extreme as the photo might make you think.

I don't think the lens comes into this at all.The guy in the background is standing slightly behind the tall one.Look at the shadows to see how far away he is.

Its not just this photo any way.

I have seen many images from iraq and the like where you seem to be recruiting a load of short arses for you forces.

Is there not a minimum size now. </font>

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U.S. Army Capt. Ed Matthaidess, commander of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, provides security outside a mosque as Iraqi army soldiers search the inside in the Adhamiyah neighborhood in Baghdad, Iraq, Aug. 31, 2006. The Iraqi army soldiers were the only soldiers allowed to search the mosque. U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Adrian Cadiz
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U.S. Army Staff Sgt. David A. Hershberger, assigned to Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, stands guard on top of an infantry carrier vehicle outside a mosque in the Ad Hamyah district of Baghdad, Sept. 2, 2006, so Iraqi army soldiers from the 9th Iraqi Army can search it for ammunition caches. U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Eli J. Medellin
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U.S. Army Spc. Samuel Dumas secures the entrance of an Adhamiyah neighborhood apartment complex in Baghdad, Iraq, Aug. 31, 2006. Dumas' fellow soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, are searching the apartments for weapons and other contraband items during a joint cordon and search mission by U.S. and Iraqi Army soldiers. U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Adrian Cadiz

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don't know if people are interested but a couple more videos of Canadians in Afghanistan have popped up. They are much more intense then the one posted here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2r3C0PJ1LM

This is actually the same battle as the previous posting but a different camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_S9P1kMNuM

Dawn raid on a Taliban compound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaC-w2dIxZc

Canadians get ambushed.

There aren't many good shots of the LAV III but you definately hear them

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