Hetzers

[Krilly]

Yeah baby!

[Maarten]

Baby's First Little Tank.

What kind of vehicle is it?

[lurrp]

That looks completely impervious to 88mm fire. I presume it will be introduced in the next module?

Edit: Ooh! 100th Post!

[BLSTK]

Where's the rest of it?

[Sequoia]

That has to be some sort of small artillery tractor.

[BLSTK]

The gun angle would indicate why so few of these saw action. Its "crew" had to assume the ill-advised "hull up" position in order to engage the enemy.

[_Axe_]

There's one at the tank park at CFB Borden, 15 minutes away from where I live. I ran a half-marathon there back in October and spent some time in the park.

There's also a Wirbelwind.

[Krilly]

I kinda envy you Axe :-p

[MikeyD]

I ran a half-marathon there back in October

I assume it was supposed to have been a full marathon but you stopped to admire the tanks halfway through.

[BLSTK]

Too funny, Mikey.

There's a Hetzer at the War Museum in Ottawa, as well. I'll have to bring a camera when I visit in April.

[GhostRider3/3]

I am right there with you. That was the first vehicle I looked for on the German list.

Mord.

P.S. Those hot pants really set off your hips.

Did anyone notice that the JagdTiger was missing among the list? I know they are rare but they should still be there. unless I missed it. Also the Elefent was still in combat.. albeit only a handful with the 653rd Heavy Pzjager.Abt. There are pictures of them in 1944 still in combat.

[Vanir Ausf B]

To the best of my knowledge the Jagdtiger never saw combat on the Eastern Front.

There were 2 companies of Elephants attached to the XXIV Panzer Corps on the East Front, April to August 1944. I don't know what actions they participated in, but they were there so they probably should be in CMRT. They also fought in the Vistula–Oder Offensive in January 1945 and later in the Battle of Berlin.

[Erwin]

Have seen photos of OOA Elephants that are supposedly from the Kursk battle. Not accurate?

[Sequoia]

Have seen photos of OOA Elephants that are supposedly from the Kursk battle. Not accurate?

Not sure what you mean. Elefant does not equal Jagdtiger.

[Erwin]

Ooops. I meant Jagdtiger. I figure many pics get used for effect rather than accuracy.

It is odd that JT didn't see Eastern Front as I thought the whole purpose of those giant machines like JT and Elefant was to kill hordes of Soviet armor impregnably.

[agusto]

Would 'harrier' be a good translation? It sounds like that's what you are talking about.

Michael

Kind of, although i had to first look up what a 'Harrier' is before iu could agree to this .

To 'hetzen' means to speed something up - with a whip or similar.

Or what dogs do in a fox hunt or battue.

http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=hetzen&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on

The image of a bunch of dogs chasing a single fox in a hunt was exactly the image i had in my mind when i tried to describe what 'Hetzer' could translate too.

Like on the image below, where the dogs are the 'Hetzers'

[Killkess]

Hated by the crews, but judged as surprisingly successful.

Which is understandable: small, a good and fast gun, quick and good front armor (60 mm@60° - that is more than 120 mm effective thickness!).

A bit late to jump in, but i still want to add that this seems to be a often repeated myth.

The Hetzer had a very bad power/weight-ratio. This combined with a frontheavy weight distribution and an almost overloaded suspension system made this maschine anything but a fast and mobile hunter.