Abbott Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Now that I have had sometime to let CMSF settle in I am starting to like the idea more and more. The US Army projected number of Strykers and its variants look to offer a myriad of options just in vehicle types. Adding in infantry assets and supporting arms this game looks like it will take awhile to learn. I am very curious to see what BFC has done for the interface to handle the entire available ToE this game will supply. Maybe we will get a glimpse of the UI in next weeks screen shots. -- "Formerly known as the Interim Armored Vehicle, the Stryker Light Armored Vehicle III [LAV III] is at the center of the Army’s Interim Brigade Combat Teams. The IBCTs are lighter and more mobile, yet offer firepower no enemy can hope to match. Strykers are being deployed to units at Fort Lewis, WA. In all, six brigades will receive the vehicles. Each brigade will have more than 300 Strykers apiece." Link -- VARIANTS "Stryker variants include the Infantry Carrier Vehicle (ICV) and the Mobile Gun System (MGS). There are eight configurations of the ICV including Nuclear, Biological, Chemical Reconnaissance Vehicle (NBC RV); Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM); Medical Evacuation Vehicle (MEV); Mortar Carrier (MC); Engineer Squad Vehicle (ESV); Command Vehicle (CV); Fire Support Vehicle (FSV); and the Reconnaissance Vehicle (RV). They have parts commonality and self-recovery abilities and are equipped with a central tire inflation system. The Reconnaissance Vehicle is fitted with the Raytheon Long Range Advanced Scout Surveillance System (LRAS3). The system includes a second-generation Horizontal Technology Initiative (HTI) thermal imager, day TV and eyesafe laser rangefinder. The US Army is to enhance the system by lengthening the sensor mast to 10m, increasing the range to 10km. The Mortar Carrier (MCV- entered service in August 2005. The MCV-B's 120mm mortar is mounted and fires from inside the vehicle through doors that swing open at the top of the vehicle. As well as the mounted mortar, the vehicle carries a second which has to be unloaded before firing. The vehicle has a digital fire control system and a crew of five." Link -- THE SBCT INFANTRY RIFLE COMPANY (FM 3-21.11) web page -- MY WAR - Fear And Loathing In Iraq A Stryker soldier's Irag Blog -- Originally posted by Battlefront.com: Here is the list of Stryker variants for CM:SF as we are thinking right now: Yup, for sure in M1126 Stryker ICV - Infantry Carrier Vehicle M1127 Stryker RV - Reconnaissance Vehicle M1128 Stryker MGS - Mobile Gun System M1129 Stryker MC - Mortar Carrier M1130 Stryker CV - Commander's Vehicle M1131 Stryker FSV - Fire Support Vehicle M1134 Stryker ATGM - Anti Tank Guided Missile If Charles doesn't tell me to jump off a cliff, this will be in too M1132 Stryker ESV - Engineer Support Vehicle M1133 Stryker MEV - Medical Evacuation Vehicle Considered outside the scope of CM:SF, so not in M1135 Stryker NBCRV - NBC Recon Vehicle Depending on how we simulate WIA recovery, the M1133 might not be included. However, since it is a fairly braindead simple thing to add it, I'd advocate it going in if for no other reason than to add an element to scenario storylines. The M1135 is a different story. First, I'm not even sure this will be fielded by 2007, second the specialized functions it performs are largely unnecessary for CM's setting. One small note though. The M1128 MGS is currently still undergoing major surgery to get it working correctly. From the last reports I saw it is quite possible that it will be available by CM:SF's timeframe, so we will be putting it in unless something drastic changes. For example, of the GAO (General Accounting Office) finds out that the system is hopeless and that good taxpayer's money is following the bad. If something like that happens, and the vehicle is killed, then of course we won't included it. But I really hope that isn't the case. The MGS is a really big part of the Stryker concept. The ATGM variant isn't an adequate substitute, though from what I understand that is what it is at the moment. Steve Here are some links with useful information I have been gathering from the posters to this Forum. They range in scope from The United States Central Intelligence Agency to a Syrian Blogger. From the US Army and Marine websites to Wargaming websites. No claim to political correctness is made and I have not had time to read in detail all of the information included. Use at your own risk. CIA-The world fact book- Syria Lots of interesting and useful information. Link Syria Topography of the Areas Surveyed in Syria Link City populations, Syria web page General information and photos, Syria web page Amarji - A Heretic's Blog Current and General information on Syria. (social) “This is the blog haven of Syrian author Ammar Abdulhamid, the place where he gets to express his thoughts and vent his frustration with regard to the ever so pretentious march of human folly. In this, he seeks to tread ever so carefully and lightly so as to avoid the usual pitfalls of megalomania and cynicism in which authors living in feverish times tend, customarily, to fall. Will he succeed? But then, and with an introduction like this, perhaps his fate is already sealed.” web page Stryker embedded correspondent Iraq The Battle For Mosul IV web page Deuce Four Recon Photos 1-25th ID 1-24 Infantry Regiment web page US Army Field Manuals (You will need to register) web page 2nd Bn. 5th. Marines Infantry training website. Good stuff here! web page Wargaming modern equipment information web page Tank protection levels Syrian and US. Tank armor and ammunition. web page US Army military fact file Weapon and vehicle information. web page Modern Russian armor page web page The Syrian military Report from 2001. web page RPG-7/RPG-7V/RPG-7VR Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher (Multi-purpose weapon) web page [ October 21, 2005, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: Abbott ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I'll just add some pics for posterity The Stryker Infantry Company (I imagine/hope this will be the base of most scenarios): Stryker dismounts: Strykers on patrol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillweed Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I'm kinda suprised they didn't call it the Schwarzkopf, but I guess for that it would have to be a MBT. A shame because I suspect it will be a while before we make make another MBT (if we ever do.) I'd say he deserves it. At least as much as Abrams. Of course they should be rolling out the Westmoreland any day now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Very nice post. Considering Battlefront's renouned attention to detail in these matters, I am already drooling at the thought of taking my virtual Stryker company into battle. I hope they include all the correct specialists etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 How many tyres can you shoot out before it is unable to move? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 All of them, twice. Surprisingly enough, the designers thought of that and installed runflats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Can someone tell me, would the M240 in the WPNS squad require an assistant crewman to feed the ammo? If so, I hope Battlefront don't abstract this in the game. If the weapon needs a 2+ crew to operate, the full crew should be shown, e.g. a rifleman lying next to the M240 man feeding the ammo if that is what happens in real life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 My War Stryker Blog - does anyone know where the original posts of that blog ended up? All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by flamingknives: All of them, twice. Surprisingly enough, the designers thought of that and installed runflats. I assumed they would have done but since my knowledge of modern weapons is as broad as my knowledge of early 9th century christian iconography in the Levant I thought I'd ask. Has anyone developed compartmentalised tyres? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Krejcirik Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Andreas: My War Stryker Blog - does anyone know where the original posts of that blog ended up? Andreas Luckily I made a mirror after his famous Men in Black post, you can find it here . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Well done, thanks a lot for that! All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortlund Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Is it just me or is the Company HQ missing a couple of guys to drive the trucks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Soddball: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by flamingknives: All of them, twice. Surprisingly enough, the designers thought of that and installed runflats. I assumed they would have done but since my knowledge of modern weapons is as broad as my knowledge of early 9th century christian iconography in the Levant I thought I'd ask. Has anyone developed compartmentalised tyres? </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 If anybody wants to know about the SBCT, read FM 3-21.31, Stryker Brigade Combat Team. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-21-31/ JohnO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Leutnant Hortlund: Is it just me or is the Company HQ missing a couple of guys to drive the trucks? If this is 2007 perhaps they are autonomous robotic trucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Dillweed: I'm kinda suprised they didn't call it the SchwarzkopfI don't think you can expect an AFV named Schwarzkopf any time soon. Spelling issues there... plus I don't recall any US AFV's named after a living person, are there any? And who's General Stryker? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoat Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 The Stryker is named in honor of Spc. 4 Robert F. Stryker, who received the Medal of Honor for his actions during the Vietnam War, and Pfc. Stuart S. Stryker, who received the award for his actions during World War II. Both men were killed in action. They were not related. Not quite generals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dillweed: I'm kinda suprised they didn't call it the SchwarzkopfI don't think you can expect an AFV named Schwarzkopf any time soon. Spelling issues there... plus I don't recall any US AFV's named after a living person, are there any? And who's General Stryker? </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 The one that sprung instantly to mind was the irony of a cosmetics firm called 'blackhead'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousdave Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Gotta give this one a bump. I hope all the guys in the "disappointed" thread read this one, and follow Abbot's links. If that doesn't make you start drooling, then maybe you aren't really into tactical level wargames afterall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Cpl Steiner: Can someone tell me, would the M240 in the WPNS squad require an assistant crewman to feed the ammo? If so, I hope Battlefront don't abstract this in the game. If the weapon needs a 2+ crew to operate, the full crew should be shown, e.g. a rifleman lying next to the M240 man feeding the ammo if that is what happens in real life. Yes, M240Bs, like nearly all GPMGs, operate best when there is an assistant gunner to provide a continuous link of ammo, switch out the barrel when it overheats, and properly feed the ammo into the gun. A proper 1-to-1 game representation should show this. I'd be really impressed if it ever shows the gun overheating and the AG swapping barrels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Found an awesome site about Stryker Brigade http://strykernews.com/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by Leutnant Hortlund: Is it just me or is the Company HQ missing a couple of guys to drive the trucks? It looks like the noncombatants with the company HQ aren't listed - the First Sergeant, company clerk, armorer, supply sergeant and his two guys, the NBC NCO, etc. Those are the guys who would drive the trucks and humvees in the company HQ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousdave Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by fytinghellfish: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cpl Steiner: Can someone tell me, would the M240 in the WPNS squad require an assistant crewman to feed the ammo? If so, I hope Battlefront don't abstract this in the game. If the weapon needs a 2+ crew to operate, the full crew should be shown, e.g. a rifleman lying next to the M240 man feeding the ammo if that is what happens in real life. Yes, M240Bs, like nearly all GPMGs, operate best when there is an assistant gunner to provide a continuous link of ammo, switch out the barrel when it overheats, and properly feed the ammo into the gun. A proper 1-to-1 game representation should show this. I'd be really impressed if it ever shows the gun overheating and the AG swapping barrels. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by fytinghellfish: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cpl Steiner: Can someone tell me, would the M240 in the WPNS squad require an assistant crewman to feed the ammo? If so, I hope Battlefront don't abstract this in the game. If the weapon needs a 2+ crew to operate, the full crew should be shown, e.g. a rifleman lying next to the M240 man feeding the ammo if that is what happens in real life. Yes, M240Bs, like nearly all GPMGs, operate best when there is an assistant gunner to provide a continuous link of ammo, switch out the barrel when it overheats, and properly feed the ammo into the gun. A proper 1-to-1 game representation should show this. I'd be really impressed if it ever shows the gun overheating and the AG swapping barrels. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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