J Ruddy Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Maybe I missed an earlier topic, but the question I thought would have been asked one hundred and fifty times over already is: When do you expect the QA/Beta process to start and who do I have to kill to get on the Beta team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 AIUI you can't sign up for Beta, your asked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 That's correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 My invite hasn't come through yet so I assume it ended up in my junk mail, so if you guys could just send it again, that'd be dandy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Ruddy Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Phooey! I should have known. [Edit Start] {Delete: A silly attempt at impressing the powers that be} {Add: My mom thinks I'm smart and I can tie my own shoes (but only if they are the velcro ones from Walmart)} [Edit End] or maybe I'm just making an ass of myself - go ahead - flame me - I'm wearing my asbestos socks - I can take it! [ September 02, 2005, 06:39 AM: Message edited by: J Ruddy ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 You're HIRED!! Only problem is I am unemployed and don't have a computer game to play test...but I do throw a helluva Christmas party....you got anything against midget hookers? Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Ruddy Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Mord - I'm there - but only if the Midget hookers are also Mexican Midget Hooker Wrestlers, OK? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Originally posted by J Ruddy: Mord - I'm there - but only if the Midget hookers are also Mexican Midget Hooker Wrestlers, OK? I prefer French but in the spirit of giving and all that I could probably drum some up. Bring your Pesos and your Hammerlock because they don't take American Express and it's no holds barred....EXACTLY how I like it! Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 J Ruddy, Don't forget, if you aren't a Beta tester, you can criticize the product to your heart's content. You're a customer, after all. Heck, you might even be a reviewer. If are a Beta tester and the word get's out, you're a target for every grog with a axe to grind, when the final version of the game hits the street. Every bug, every glitch, every armor engagement wierdness, every shoulder flash a millimeter off the wrong thickness - you have to answer for that. And trust me, there are people all over this forum to let you know where something is wrong. I can, with some difficulty, understand Steve and Co. shouldering that heavy burden since they get paid for it. But step in front of that kind of flak for free, in exchange with messing around with a program 8 months or so ahead of time? Maybe you should reconsider your offer. Volunteering in a military context is rarely a good idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Ruddy Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Duke - I know what you are saying. The thing that most people don't realize that Beta Testing is seriously hard work. Then, when the test cycle is done, there will still be bugs of varying degrees as the change management process prioritized what needed to be fixed, what could actually be fixed in time for release and what is going to be fixed in the dreaded patch. Then, after all this hard work, if the M1 carbine doesn't sound just right, the anal-ites of society try to crucify you for not making 'their' product perfect. Just be glad it doesn't cost $5,000 per seat. People get testy when they spend $250,000 on new corporate software and they find bugs in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Originally posted by Bigduke6: I can, with some difficulty, understand Steve and Co. shouldering that heavy burden since they get paid for it. But step in front of that kind of flak for free, in exchange with messing around with a program 8 months or so ahead of time? It does have its moments Stefan, and those make it worth stepping out when asked. One reward you get is the satisfaction of having helped and influenced (if only in a small way) the further development of what in my biased opinion is the best wargame there is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I had so much fun beta-testing, I had to post this twice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Originally posted by Andreas: I had so much fun beta-testing, I had to post this twice. Man, I want to beat you with a baguette. :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 As a beta tester for the CMx1 series I can tell you that CMx2 will enter beta testing very soon. By the way, I was responsbile for testing the AI's cheating capabilities and making sure the AI always had a slight advantage in spotting and targeting. I think I did a pretty good job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 :mad: :mad: :mad: GARAGRGARGAHRAHRAHGARHAGRHARAGRHARGAHRAGH :mad: :mad: :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Andreas, what were your GPS co-ordinates again? I have a... present to deliver... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I wouldn't do Beta-Testing for the reasons mentioned above. I am however enjoying my Alpha-Testing of CMx2. Yep, the top secret Alpha Team is where it's at. The code goes from Charles' computer to mine, then to Madmatt and the rest. That is, if I don't send it back to Charles for rework. Treeburst155 out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardem Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 So your saying Treeburst PBEM is in multiplayer form LOL... Now that would be fun a 4 player PBEM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Andreas, Wow, does that mean they listen to you? I'm impressed. My spies in the Beta testing corps tell me mostly it's bug hunting, plus hearing why your great idea can't be implemented, it's too late Steve or Charles or whoever it is already finished the code. Well, we all have a role in the community. Some of us do the work. And some of us, ah, make constructive comments, once the work is done. It's true, I kind of envy your getting an early look at what indeed will be the next best wargame in the world - but all in all I'd rather do my bit to control quality as a simple program user offering *moderate and well-reasoned* feedback to BFI. You can't have CM without customers, after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Me, I was asked to Beta test CMx1 after providing copious amounts of fluid to baldy. Greasing the palm/head sorta thing... Alas, I gracefully declined the beta test offer. Now I have REAL power: I proofed the point that referees can be corrupt and have integrity at the same time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Originally posted by Bigduke6: Wow, does that mean they listen to you? I'm impressed. My spies in the Beta testing corps tell me mostly it's bug hunting, plus hearing why your great idea can't be implemented, it's too late Steve or Charles or whoever it is already finished the code. I design scenarios primarily and they are part of the sold package. Beyond that I will not comment on how beta-testing works, since I signed an NDA which I have no intention of breaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 This thread has become the equivalent of watching men show off their sports cars to the passing girls on the broadwalk. Some of the men are driving Austin Martins while others seem to think they have more than what they have, i.e. they are driving Skoda's. Welcome to Battlefront Geekdom Yawn..... H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Originally posted by Andreas: One reward you get is the satisfaction of having helped and influenced (if only in a small way) the further development of what in my biased opinion is the best wargame there is. Andreas, after looking back at your performance in the earlier beta tests I have run, you would know this how exactly? As has been said above, Beta-Testers are chosen, by me, and no amount of begging pleading or listing out your qualifications matters one little bit to me. When the time comes, and if I want you, will hear from me. If not, well I guess you can have the honor and privilege of purchasing the game, just like the rest of the unwashed masses. Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 And the girl is playing hard to get. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Originally posted by Madmatt: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas: One reward you get is the satisfaction of having helped and influenced (if only in a small way) the further development of what in my biased opinion is the best wargame there is. Andreas, after looking back at your performance in the earlier beta tests I have run, you would know this how exactly? </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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