SuperHero Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 PZ IIIF had 2 coaxial machineguns IRL and the model has 2 of them coaxial too and 1 on hull but the game only uses 1 on hull and 1 on coax, plz add the 2nd mg to coaxial finnish pzivh (shouldnt it be pzivj by the way? atleast this page shows that finns had pzivj http://www.geocities.com/%7Efi1877/ ) model skin has slight errors the hull mg ball is way too much left and the spare trackwheels on right have some weird texture and the info shows it has "skirts" but i believe finns removed them so it shouldnt be too hard job to remove them from the tank data too? (for realisms sake ) and in next patch, please correct the model to finnish stugs, and if possible add some extra armor to sides as finns often places logs there (and logs to model too) i had something more to say from stug but i forgot it ill put it here later when i remember it again edit: and thx for the patch, i love the new models you added! [ November 21, 2002, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: SuperHero ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 IS-2 (late), T-44 and IS-3 still use incorrect models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Guys, unfortunately we wont be updating all models as Ive mentioned before, and Id suggest most of the above will be in that catagory. We will get as many as we can done before we need to move on though. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHero Posted November 21, 2002 Author Share Posted November 21, 2002 but the PZ3f would be just datafix only reason i would consider using pz3f is because it had so many mgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Oh, I missed that Superhero . It could be that Chalres already models this yet simple calls it a co-ax, but I will double check for you! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Was the PSW 234/4 (with the long 75mm gun) in line for remodelling? Could you get away with just lobbing a 75mmAT gun (minus wheels of course) on the top of the current model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Its one I would like to get to sodball, yes, but time will tell though. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty 101 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I found a little bug that might need some fixing. The Turan II (Late) with the skirts at view level 1 if you get in close, the turret itself becomes transparent so you can see through it yet the skirt on the side of the turret is still there. Just a little bug, not too urgent. Other than these small bugs the patch is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Shifty, we have noted that and it unfortuantely seems to be a bug on some video cards. We are hoping drivers will fix the issue down the track, but if not we will look at changing them to solid skirts which of course will fix the problem. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Well, the IS-2 would be nice, since it's one of the more common tanks for the last year of the war. I could live without the IS-3 and T-44, but one can always wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackVoid Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I have opened a topic on this, but as my topics seem to die a short death, I'll post it here as well. QBs should have snow on the ground in ALL regions during the winter months. Or at least a high chance to have snow. Right now, the south and central regions will only have snow in the winter if you set the weather to snow. This is completely unrealistic and I think it is a bigger issue than tank X not having the correct number of MGs. Yet, this is overlooked all the time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denizen Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 speaking of the IS-2, it is missing an mg as well; BFC still wont admit the IS-2 had a bow mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSulo Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Another little "bug": The Ammop... Amoul.. Ampomol... That soviet flame projectile mortar thingy is all white Looks like someone forgot about them after making the mortars textured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHero Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 yeah psw 234/4 model is what we REALLY need, shouldnt be too big job as you just need to longer the barrel of /3 model a bit oh and danizen, about that IS-2 mg, germans dont have flexible mg on king tiger either! achtungpanzer.com resources say that they had: (1 x MG - hull) (1 x MG - coaxial) (1 x MG - cupola) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 SuperHero, Most tanks, especially German tanks, had roof mounted MGs for AA defense. They were generally not used during combat beacuse the Tank Commander would be completely vulnerable to enemy small arms fire. Kinda defeats the purpose of being in a tank In fact, most German crews brought the MGs into the turret during combat to avoid having them suffer damage. The only roof mounted MGs we simulate are ones that were generally used for ground combat. Some of the SU and ISU vehicles fit that description, as well as the shield mounted MGs on StuGs. Oh, and the 234/4 is a nightmare to model. Open hull vehicles like this are the worst to do. Doesn't matter how small and cute it is, they suck Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHero Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 just lenghten the barrel of psw 234/3 abit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSulo Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Noone but me noticed the white russian flame projectile mortar..? Now I'm getting worried... EDIT: Oh, it got a whole thread for itself... But remember, I reported it first [ November 22, 2002, 05:28 AM: Message edited by: SuperSulo ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbott Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Originally posted by SuperSulo: Noone but me noticed the white russian flame projectile mortar..? Now I'm getting worried...click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHero Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 i did a test with pz III f and pz III g and im 99% sure that pz3f doesnt have 2 coaxial mgs.. i put some soviet inf to open ground and rotated hull away from them so they couldnt use hull mg pz 3f has 2 coaxial mgs in real life and pz3g has 1 ingame both tanks shooted as much tracers so it doesnt look like it has 2 coaxial not biggie thingy but just something that can come in handy in summer 41 battles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsharr Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 From the photo's I have in my reference book's Battlefront is correct,the IS-2 does not have a hull mg,the driver is centered in the hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by kevsharr: From the photo's I have in my reference book's Battlefront is correct,the IS-2 does not have a hull mg,the driver is centered in the hull.We had this discussion a couple of months back. Some IS-2s had a hull MG mounted to the right and somewhat behind the driver. If present, it was accessed from the main fighting compartment. From the way it's set up, I doubt that it could be aimed; you would have to point the whole tank and just spray that general direction. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illo Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 This is too good product to be left unfinished. I just think your customers deserve finished product? Or don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by SuperHero: (1 x MG - cupola)The MG on the cupola was mainly for AA defence. It wasn't a standard fixture however. Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by illo: This is too good product to be left unfinished. I just think your customers deserve finished product? Or don't we?I think the majority of us here are absolutely impressed by CMBB and would say that it is not 'unfinished'. Any additional ammendments BTS choose to do is just icing on the cake. Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by illo: This is too good product to be left unfinished. I just think your customers deserve finished product? Or don't we?If you'll pardon me for saying so, I think it's a little early to begin making accusations of that character. I believe BFC has mentioned that a 1.02 patch is anticipated. So the game is still far from being abandoned. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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