Brent Pollock Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Beats the alternative: having my mark divided by 7 :eek: Originally posted by Holien: You do know even if you send it 7 times I will only mark one of them. H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 To my opponent in ROW III - I got your turn while on vacation. My email is down now and the tech won't be back until next Monday. How friggin' convenient, eh? My cable connection does seem to fix itself on occasion, so I hope to be able to return turns over the weekend, but just to let you know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ted: I just finished my 1st of 4 AAR’s of the games I finished. I don’t think there’s any chance of finishing “South of Vevi” with Karnak. I only receive a turn every few days from him. I think we’re on turn 35 of 45. Can I send in an AAR on the incomplete game so I’ll be eligible for the finals? (LoL, like there’s a chance of that anyway) And Should I wait until I have a block of them or send them as I finish each one? Hi, I would send them to me as they are done. An incomplete AAR is fine as long as it covers the points we are looking for. We will tell you if it does not make the grade for the points going towards the scores for the finals. Obviously for the AAR prize it would be very unlikely to win in an incomplete format. H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 shock trooper, Ball's in your court. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Kingfish, Only a few turns left, but only a handful of days, too. Nothing yet today from shock trooper. Holien, Shall attempt to provide you with a single, integrated AAR. Appreciate the update! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 shock trooper, Please check your e-mail. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted June 11, 2004 Share Posted June 11, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: To my opponent in ROW III - I got your turn while on vacation. My email is down now and the tech won't be back until next Monday. How friggin' convenient, eh? My cable connection does seem to fix itself on occasion, so I hope to be able to return turns over the weekend, but just to let you know. Played the last turn and tried to email for the last 24 hours - the connection is completely blocked and not allowing me to send. I hope the situation corrects itself over the weekend (it's been known to correct itself in the past) but the problem has never persisted this long before. I have a tech booked for Monday evening - the night before the deadline. DOH If I can't get up and running, will it be possible to have the admin of the ROW either a) call a cease fire by mutual consent, or, failing the consent of my partner institute a surrender of my forces based on the last turn my partner has been able to send, so that I can still be credited with finishing the tourney? If my internet is still down at home, I'd like to be able to finish in absentia, if possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 FWIW, I'd totally support anyone asking for a ceasefire or failing that a surrender in order to get finishing credits. I'd been thinking of asking for the same thing myself when I wasn't confident of finishing in time. GaJ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I would suggest that people do not use surrender in _any_ circumstances, and ceasefire only if the tactical situation makes that really sensible for both parties, as use of these means will affect the scoring system for _all players_. Rather, if games are not finished in time I'd hope Kingfish gets the latests files and makes some kind of scoring decision by himself. I hope we get instructions on this from Kingfish soon! PS. My last orders of my last game have been sent to my opponent, so this won't affect me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Just to advise that it unfortunately is extremely unlikely that Squeezing the Melon will be finished by the 14th due to the difficulty of getting timely files done when there's a 16 hour time difference. On the positive side, I still hope to finish both Vevindi & Metema on time (just). Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 KF will be along shortly he is having problems with his PC. Ohhh the wonderful world of viruses and Microsoft. I am sure we will sort something out as long as both players agree. Please keep trying to get these games finished by the 14th as every little helps. Cheers H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I just finished my last AAR (South of Vevi) where opponent did surrender without asking for cease-fire (I would have accepted it as I was defending). Points were big time in my favor but I will agree to any decent pts Kingfish wants to impose here... I have couple last files stored just for the case 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Especially attackers' surrendering screws up the scoring in major way. In the minimum, I'd ask that "natural" and "artificial" scores are indicated as such when the final scores are published. Then everyone can draw own conclusions whether this was actual problem or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 On the surrendering issue: Everybody who signed up for the tourney did so promising to follow the tournament manual as posted in the first post of every RoW thread. Which part of "don't surrender" didn't people understand? It has a huge impact on other people's scores, and not only in their own group. If a game cannot be continued, the last file has to be passed back to the umpires. They will decide whether an outcome can be agreed on as "obvious", whether an artificial playing to an end (like a retreat) will do or whether a reserve player has to finish the game. Don't surrender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I'm more than willing to send last files for judging - I'm also dissappointed with the battle not going to the end. Nevertheless I can understand my opponents feelings as his situation was not really promising. Basically I had managed to stop his attacks very well with few or no losses to my men. Waiting for a response from Kingfish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Bombs Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Everyone should be trying to get as much of their games done as possible right now. Even in the event that a game cannot be finished on time, the closer you are to the end makes things better on any number of levels. We'll hear from Kingfish shortly, but in the meantime keep cranking out those turns this weekend as much as you possibly can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walpurgis nacht Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I agree with Redwolf the rules are clear. Allowing people to surrender sets a bad precendent and ruins what makes the Nabla scoring system great. You should get booted if you quit/surrender. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melnibone Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Just finished my last AAR . Thanks to all designers and organisers for all their great work...thanks to my opponents for the tough fights...thanks to my parents....doh! wrong speech...it's been a blast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Am nervously awaiting shock trooper's latest, not because I'm afraid of what he'll do, but because we're almost out of time. Nothing from him yet, and it's already 1:30 p.m. PDT here. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted June 12, 2004 Author Share Posted June 12, 2004 Good Lord! Is it almost time???? Well, kinda... First, lets get everyone up to date on games completed, blah, blah, blah... Games finished as of 06/12/04: South of Vevi G1/S1 - complete G1/S2 - complete PHLGuy vs Tychus G1/S4 - complete Lindan vs Ace Pilot G2/S2 - complete Michael Dorosh vs MickOZ Victor Charlie vs Flammenwerfer Heavy Drop vs Pacestick Jaws vs Gator6 Strider vs Brent Pollack Pitt Panther vs Panther Commander Bryce Baker vs Combined arms Chaos49 vs Death Dealer G3/S3 - complete Nidan1 vs OWL Larsen vs SpineRipper 27/36 (75%) Things that go bump in the night G1/S1 - complete G1/S2 - complete G1/S3 - complete G1/S4 - complete John Kettler vs Kanonier Reichmann Londoner vs Ace Pilot G2/S2 - complete G2/S3 - complete Jaws vs Heavy Drop Pacestick vs Ted G3/S1 - complete Death dealer vs Combined arms Bryce Baker vs dalem G3/S3 - complete G3/S4 - complete 33/36 (91%) Squeezing the Melon G1/S1 - complete G1/S2 - complete Tychus vs Nestor Overkill vs Enoch G1/S4 - complete Ace Pilot vs John Kettler Lindan vs Londoner Cuzn vs Green as Jade Melinibone vs Malakovski MickOZ vs Flammenwerfer Victor Charlie vs Scheer G2/S4 - complete Strider vs Panther Commander G3/S2 - complete G3/S3 - complete G3/S4 - complete 30/36 (83%) Frontier Firefight '40 G1/S1 - complete Vadr vs Michal The Capt vs Sgt Kelly Enoch vs Tychus G1/S4 - complete G2/S1 - complete G2/S2 - complete Scheer vs MickOZ Flammenwerfer vs Michael Dorosh G2/S4 - complete G3/S1 - complete dalem vs Combined arms Deathdealer vs Direwolf11 G3/S3 - complete G3/S4 - complete 31/36 (86%) Retreat from Metemma G1/S1 - complete G1/S2 - complete PHL Guy vs Enoch Tychus vs Overkill G1/S4 - complete John Kettler vs Londoner Shock Tropper vs Ace Pilot G2/S2 - complete G2/S3 - complete G2/S4 - complete G3/S1 - complete Combined arms vs Direwolf Deathdealer vs Bryce Baker G3/S3 - complete G3/S4 - complete 33/36 (91%) 154 out of 180 total (%85) A while back I had mentioned to Holien and Spanish Bombs that I would have been happy with a 75% completion rate. We are at 85% and still have time left, so keep cranking away! Speaking of time left, there have been some recent developments on my end that has forced me to change the deadline for the tourney. To make a long story short, about two weeks ago my computer was hosed with a virus, and I was forced to do a full system recovery to clean it out. While it got me back and running, it also wiped out every program that was not originally installed. One of those programs was MS office, which includes Excel. Thats what I was using to record the scores (relax, I saved multiple copies). So, what this means is instead of calculating the scores at home on June 14th (Tuesday) I will instead do it from work on the 18th (Friday). Therefore, the new deadline is noon, Thurday June 17th. That afternoon I will post the scores in this thread, and you all have 24 hours to contact me if the scores are incorrect. After calculating the scores I will send them to Jarmo Hurri (Nabla) so that he can run it through his program. Hopefully by that weekend we will have a pre-AAR winner announced. Due to this extension we will also extend the deadline for AARs by one week, but we need to get the first step taken care of before we can announce the deadline for AARs. If all goes well we will have 12 finalists announced and the finals started by the first week of July. That is what I am shooting for. You know have an additional 2 days to complete your games. Not much, but that is really all I can grant at this point. Please use this time wisely and get those games completed. Every score submitted makes the final calculations that much more accurate. Now, as for the issue of surrenders, the rules are clear on why this is prohibited. We still have replacement players ready to go, and in a pinch I could step in to help out, but you'll need to let me know asap if you can't continue. OK, so are we all clear on whats going on? June 17th deadline, no surrenders, Keep cranking away on those turns and AARs. We need both to get us into the finals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Kingfish - I think you have to make some kind of call about my game against Chaos49... as surrender was a surprise to me I got to see his troopers and their positions AND if that wasn't enough I did send him the final file so I suspect he has checked my men out. Shall I email you my latest file (before surrender) to check this one out? I sure hope we can get this one sorted out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted June 13, 2004 Author Share Posted June 13, 2004 Yes, send me the last file before the surrender. I will help you finish out the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 When I said "I support someone asking for surrender as a resolution" I was coming from the point of view that people shouldn't be punished for their opponent being too slow. I'd totally forgotten about the business about surrendering messing up scoring, and I agree this is not what we want. But how do the rules help us with slow opponenents? At what point is someone entitled to say "I want a replacement opponent, this guy is too slow?" (And how can we tell the difference between that and "I want a replacement opponent, this guy is too good"!?) I actually made such a request a couple of weeks ago, and it was not actioned. It all turned out OK: my opponent came good. But what if he hadn't? It would be nice if there was some guideline about what will happen to people waiting on opponents as the deadline approaches... (edit: if this is as simple as "we will help you out, don't worry - if you are available to finish your game, and communicating what's going on, you will get a finish somehow" then that would let everyone be at ease...) Ta, GaJ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Kingfish, I'm sorry for your computer virus and consequent massive inconvenience, but I'm grateful for the additional time. Does this mean that the AAR deadline is now noon June 24th? Still nothing from shock trooper, and it's now nearly 6:20 p.m. PDT. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 shock trooper, Please check your E-mail. Was pretty quick on catching the arrival of the new turn, you see. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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