Hensworth Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 How is this Tiger hull down ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I guess because you can't see the lower hull, as it's turned its top towards you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJK Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Should be "Hull down, Top up" though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 For real entertainment, what about this amusing ( :mad: ) occurence... There are actually two wierdnesses in this shot, but the second one is reasonably well known by now. (The Pink Panther is a joke mod, unrelated to this topic, though others who've seen this have suggested that it's blushing!) My explanation of this is that the Panther is too close: it's gun is too long. But if they went to all the trouble to simulate that, then how come AFVs allowed to area fire within 1-2m of themselves!? GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguard Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 id like to know how that panther got that close to begin with, seemingly with two shermans in its direct vicinity with neither being destroyed and one sherman looking the complete opposite direction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Whose snow mod is that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Originally posted by JonS: Whose snow mod is that? Battlefront's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 No, it's GreenAsJade's High Contrast Snow. The Panther got that close using a technique I'd just read about for "how to defeat a Sherm with a Panther after forces have engaged". It was this: It was this: to kill a Sherm with a Panther, - have the Panther in cover - point the Panther at a spot just next to the Sherm - distract the Sherm with tasty bait - Set a covered arc on the panther at 90 to the line from the panther to the Sherm, so that when the Panther arrives next to the Sherm the gun will be pointing at the Sherm - Drive the Panther fast up next to the Sherm. The Sherm's turret can't turn as fast as the Panther can close, so the Panther will arrive pointing its gun at the Sherm who is still facing forwards. It worked beautifully, as you can see. That would have been a dead Sherm ... except the person forgot to mention "don't get *too* close"!!! (Not to mention the flamethrower who popped up inside the building, but hey The Sherm in the foreground of the shot is already dead, the smoke from it provided good cover for the Panther rush ) [ October 22, 2006, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: GreenAsJade ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Originally posted by Sgt_Kelly: How is this Tiger hull down ??? It's the terrain in front of the shooter, not the terrain in front of the target. The Tiger is slightly lower and hence the edge of the plateau that the Sherman is standing on only allow the Sherman to hit the upper part of the Tiger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Originally posted by GreenAsJade: No, it's GreenAsJade's High Contrast Snow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 WTF does " " mean!? It's an excellent mod, if I say so myself! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melnibone Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Red faced at misidentifying your fine mod! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivodsi Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Anyway, back to the subject of the topic, Sgt_Kelly, 'hull down' refers to the shooting tank, not the tiger. So in this case the tiger can only 'see' the upper hull and turret of the sherman: its the sherman that's hull down not the tiger (unless I'm missing your pt??) Its still problematic because from the position of the tiger, it would seem that the angle is working to negate the slope of the sherman, reducing the amount of iron the tiger's shot would have to penetrate. The sherman might be hull down, but its even more vulnerable than it would normally be. This is the Tiger Valley scenario? Lots of fun in that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Actually the pic shown clearly shows that the Tiger is considered hull down to the Sherman. Not the other way around. When you aim at something, the info for the thing you are targeting will pop up over the thing you are targeting. If you are hull down then "hull down" will pop up over your own tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 You are correct zmoney. I think that little outcrop just in front of the sherman is the culprit. Remember the terrain is abstracted, so in game terms, that slope may be obscuring the tiger's hull in relation to the sherman. Was the Sherman also hull down? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Originally posted by Melnibone: Red faced at misidentifying your fine mod! Ah! I mistook red-embarrased for red-angry! GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hensworth Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 I don't remember if the Sherman was termed hull down but the outcrop is most definitely not in front of the Sherman doing the targeting here. The targeting line runs from the bottom of the Sherman up to the upper hull of the Tiger and it's a completely clear LOS, straight as an arrow (if it went over the outcrop you would see it curve over it), so how could it possibly be hull down ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Originally posted by GreenAsJade: Ah! I mistook red-embarrased for red-angry! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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