Phoenix Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 I know it's very cool looking, and that 128 kills everything it hits. But....., no turret, and it's dog slow. Other than for use on large maps, is it really worth buying? Opinions? I just noticed my opponent has one and oddly enough I'm not worried about it. Am I mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwin Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 I think so, if only to give your opponent the satifaction of zooking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Depends on the support of units around it and the terrain it is employed in. I definitely wouldn't buy one in all circumstances. But if it has a long, clear line of sight and a secure rear and flanks - it can obviously be a great danger (unless you have some heavy artillery to batter it with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raze Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Yes! Nothing can withstand that gun up close. No. Wait a minute. Zooks will get it. OK. Put it far away. Yeah. That guns got great range. Oops. No. Then arty will get. Maybe its not that great. ------------------ Sticks and stones may break my . . OUCH! Hey! Who threw . . .Stop! STOP IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pillar Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 What size arty are you talking about here? Even 290 will do nothing more than immobilize a KT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MantaRay Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Well it is a heck of a lot better than the Jagdpanther. That unit is almost a waste of money. But a JT is very effective when it has support. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiJoe Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Id rather have the jagdpanther anyday. The 88mm with kill anything the allies can field and has a faster rof and more rounds than the 128mm. Its a faster tank and its way cheaper. And it has pretty decent armour, it can sit back and bounce 76mm rounds off its front hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Captain Foobar* Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 I have used a JagdTiger once. On the 3rd round that hit it, the gun was damaged. Artillery can immobilize it, as well as cause gun damage. I dont like all my points tied up in one big unit like that, unless it's going to be a pool table map, and that hardly ever seems to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdcarcajou Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *Captain Foobar*: I have used a JagdTiger once. On the 3rd round that hit it, the gun was damaged. Artillery can immobilize it, as well as cause gun damage. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hey, Yep, only took one once, and it got gun damaged by arty on like turn 4. I have taken Jagdpanthers to great effect against the AI, but both times I brought one into a battle against a person I lost them to early-game miracles (arty gun damage, and a one-in-a-million side shot from across the board by a Priest at an extreme angle... > ). Hard to swallow when they up and die, but their performance against the AI has been stellar. Chris ------------------ What the hell is a Jagdcarcajou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monticello Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phoenix: I just noticed my opponent has one and oddly enough I'm not worried about it. Am I mad? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Of course...not! Given that the JagdTiger is merely a limited-mobility pillbox that will more than likely bog down in less than ideal ground conditions, I suggest encouraging your opponent to move it off the road. If the gun points in a direction useless for your opponent then you won't waste ammunition to kill it! [This message has been edited by Monticello (edited 10-20-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juardis Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 One of my opponents bought one. I was kicking his ass all over the map on his right flank then that beast shows up. He 2 turns he kills my Sherm 76, my Sherm 105, and my Stuart. Now we're even, except he still has that damned JT. I tried a little maneuver to get my Stuart a flank shot. My 105 had a bead on him so I left him there with orders to shoot to kill. The JT was obviously preoccupied with him. So whilst they were facing each other down, I was going to race my Stuart into his flank and kill the bastard. Didn't work. He knocked out my 105 with a first shot kill then my Stuart, valiant effort that it was, almost got to the flank (he was coming from the front of the JT), but the JT got in another first shot kill . LUCK HAVERMEYER, IT WAS PURE LUCK! Yes, they're worth it IMO ------------------ Jeff Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Opinions <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Only time I ever played against one one of my engineer squads killed it from behind with a demo charge. =) Kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Hmmm, how 'bout a platoon of Jagtigers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Captain Foobar* Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 A platoon of JagdTigers, vs. what you could buy for the price of those Jagds: Most maps and situations, the Jagds would lose, at least in Western Europe. I love it when my opponents tie up all their points in uber stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Considering that most Allied tanks have armor that gave rise to the term "paper-thin," what good would a 128mm gun actually do compared to an 88, or hell, even a 75. Answer: not a whole lot. I'd rather have a couple of Mark IVs. ------------------ Soy super bien, soy super super bien, soy bien bien super bien bien bien super super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEF BUNGIS Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Whats up with all the gun damages??? I'm getting ready to surrender in a PBEM game right now cause an M10 got a lucky gun hit on my JT. Not worth it IMO. To risky if you ask me. Like BTS has said, luck does play a role in CM. And I'm definatley not a lucky person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwin Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 I recently saw a gun hit display on an enemy jumbo only to get blown to pieces a moment later by it. Talk about a let down ------------------ I now stand upon the alter of defeat and in utter disgrace http://users1.50megs.com/lokesa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Captain Foobar* Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 IMPORTANT: As darwin has said, GUN HIT does not always mean GUN DAMAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 If you have an enemy who likes to stock up with Jumbo 76's or Super Pershings a Jagdtiger just might be worth it. Against normal tanks it's overkill, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Havermeyer- Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 The jagdT I purchased whimsically (it must a been the scotch). The terrain is all wrong and there are too many trees and its support is shaky. I've almost made up the purchase price though with kills. One more and it will be a fine purchase. If it survives it will a force multiplier for the balance of the campaign. I am a big proponent of infantry and rarely buy the behemoths (including T and KT and JT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 IMO - it depends on the situation... I purchased one in a flat terrain environment - where I had long range fileds of fire on the objectives. I used it as a building buster - the HE shells pack incredible punch. I wiped out several large heavy buildings and all the poor Brits that were in there. Of course the Churchills - did not stand up to it either - however, this was a game with 3000 points per opponent - in many circumstances -its not the ideal vehicle. BTW - he tried outflanking me but I had solid AT screens to protect the monster. Goes to say - learn about your vehicles and in what circumstances to best use them. ------------------ No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rex_Bellator Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 Used one once. Bogged down on second turn. Never again. ------------------ We're not here to take it - we're here to give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted October 22, 2000 Share Posted October 22, 2000 It's a high-stakes gamble. If it pays off, you win big. If not, you lose big. I haven't used one in a PBEM, but against the AI, theyr'e pretty good, since the AI usually isn't very good at flanking. And give him some support to defend against inf. ------------------ Charon doesn't make change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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