Vacillator Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 While playing the excellent 'Myth of Invincibility' I noticed this: Is the HEAT round just a typo or something worse? I have to say the gun took out two T34/85s with ease, which I enjoyed immensely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Yeah... That has to be a typo... (HighExplosiveAntiTank) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RepsolCBR said: (HighExplosiveAntiTank) I know, just a bit worried my 50mm ATG is firing 150mm HEAT rounds, (but there's only 2 HEAT rounds to fire anyway). Bug? No bug? Edited October 13, 2020 by Vacilllator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The caiber should be the same...50 mm. And the low number is normal as far as i know...it is somewhat random IIRC but always pretty low... Did the gun survive ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It's correct - it's a particular type of HEAT round these guns could fire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Ooohh, damn....my misstake ! Thanks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, RepsolCBR said: Ooohh, damn....my misstake ! Thanks... I remembered the thread from way back because it was so interesting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Freyberg said: I remembered the thread from way back because it was so interesting Note to self, must search the forums more . That is definitely something I'd never heard of. It explains the fate of the T34/85s, although at the range they were at (ambush of course) normal 50mm AT rounds may have achieved similar results. Now, let's see if I have a save with it in for a closer look... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, RepsolCBR said: Did the gun survive ? If I say that they were not the only T34/85s in the area is that enough information? However, I think the crew abandoned the gun with only one casualty amongst them so it could have been worse. Oh, and then came 88mm rounds from my other ambushers . Edited October 14, 2020 by Vacilllator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Vacilllator said: Note to self, must search the forums more . There are some very interesting and well informed people on this forum. I have been stalking it for years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Freyberg said: There are some very interesting and well informed people on this forum. I have been stalking it for years And thanks to you I am now better informed than I was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Vacilllator said: If I say that they were not the only T34/85s in the area is that enough information? However, I think the crew abandoned the gun with only one casualty amongst them so it could have been worse. Ok...a light AT-gun vs two late war tanks is a nice trade though...It's hard to keep those guns alive... Getting kills with them is quite satisfactory ...Not quite as much as with hand hald AT-weapons but...almost...and in third place comes the tank destroyers...as satisfactory tank killers . Glad things got sorted eventually... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RepsolCBR said: and in third place comes the tank destroyers Well, that's another story from the same scenario - I had four Jagdpanzer IVs on the other flank. They were doing a great job, but their numbers are now sadly depleted . Agree with you on the hand-helds and had some success with them as well in the scenario. At the other end of the scale I also witnessed an 88mm (L71) shell going straight through a T34/85 turret and out the other side - that was impressive. And just in case your wondering, to my knowledge there are no more Soviet tanks to deal with, but we'll see... Edited October 14, 2020 by Vacilllator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 i pretty much played all the CMRT stuff in the first year after the module released...I don't quite remember this scenario...but i might very well have to take it for a spin a second time some day soon ... but then again...CMFR is not that far away...so maybe not ... My number ONE kill shot of all times were in CMRT...i don't remember the name of this scenario either but i was playing the germans and one of my pz 4s came across a number of russian SU76 assult guns. The panzer opened fire and hit the first one and the shot went strait through and hit a second one...and i'm almost sure that it indeed managed to penetrate that one to and continue and take out even a third assultgun...with the same shot !! I'm not 100 % sure about the third...but almost. Taking out 2 tanks with one shoot is not that extreme...but three is a bit more impressive and i remember jumping in my chair and screaming of joy.... So i do actually belive it was three...Thats some bad ass shooting !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Poked a Panther out from behind a building in a CMFI pbem when I noticed my opponent had 4 Humber AC's coming up a road and managed to hole all 4 in one shot. We still laugh about that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Hah, that 2011 thread I spotted a forgotten old post of mine where I suggested we don't have many photos of the round because it was so UGLY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, Vergeltungswaffe said: Poked a Panther out from behind a building in a CMFI pbem when I noticed my opponent had 4 Humber AC's coming up a road and managed to hole all 4 in one shot. We still laugh about that one. Ace going ! ... 27 minutes ago, MikeyD said: Hah, that 2011 thread I spotted a forgotten old post of mine where I suggested we don't have many photos of the round because it was so UGLY. To call it pretty is not...all that easy. But then again if it was a piece of art made by 'the right guy' instead of a weapon...you could probably sell it for 5 million dollars and the people who knows about these things would admire it...forever ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Vacilllator said: If I say that they were not the only T34/85s in the area is that enough information? However, I think the crew abandoned the gun with only one casualty amongst them so it could have been worse. Oh, and then came 88mm rounds from my other ambushers . What? You actually got the 88 to fire? Assuming you are talking about the Flak, those always are close to useless for me. Though they look impressive... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, StieliAlpha said: You actually got the 88 to fire? Assuming you are talking about the Flak It was actually the magnificent 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 on a Tiger II, although other L/56 variants were also on hand nearby. I did read in another post a complaint that this was a rather random inclusion of yet another Tiger II, but (perhaps ignoring history in exchange for a good game) I have no issue with it . I'm not sure I've yet encountered the 88 Flak in ground role, can you recommend a battle which has them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vacilllator said: It was actually the magnificent 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 on a Tiger II, although other L/56 variants were also on hand nearby. I did read in another post a complaint that this was a rather random inclusion of yet another Tiger II, but (perhaps ignoring history in exchange for a good game) I have no issue with it . I'm not sure I've yet encountered the 88 Flak in ground role, can you recommend a battle which has them? Yeah, some in BN, MG and FI. If that is of interest, I’ll try to remember. MG Joe’s Bridge comes to my mind immediately, but that’s a different thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Vacilllator said: It was actually the magnificent 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 on a Tiger II, although other L/56 variants were also on hand nearby. I did read in another post a complaint that this was a rather random inclusion of yet another Tiger II, but (perhaps ignoring history in exchange for a good game) I have no issue with it . I'm not sure I've yet encountered the 88 Flak in ground role, can you recommend a battle which has them? Ag, and CW Bloody Buron. There they really have an impact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: Hah, that 2011 thread I spotted a forgotten old post of mine where I suggested we don't have many photos of the round because it was so UGLY. I think it looks okay actually, although a bit complicated to manufacture. No-one would accuse the Germans at that time of making things complicated . Anyway, I'm wondering how the thing actually worked. I assume someone drew the short straw and had to run round the front and put on the HEAT round (almost like a condom if you will). Someone else meanwhile loaded the special 'cartridge' into the breech, after first removing what was already there. Not the most streamlined of procedures but I suppose the end justifies the means. When fired, this special cartridge propelled the HEAT round towards its target, assuming the round has no propellant itself, or does it? The lack of online info on this suggest it was a bit of rarity, but I like it nevertheless... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, StieliAlpha said: Ag, and CW Bloody Buron. There they really have an impact. Yes I imagine they would (or at least should) do. Thanks, will do some exploring as I liked the 88 flaks a lot in my old adventures in East Front II and West Front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeyD said: Hah, that 2011 thread I spotted a forgotten old post of mine where I suggested we don't have many photos of the round because it was so UGLY. Put two embedded in the chest of a large female Nazi robot machine thingy and ya got something attractive... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Erwin said: Put two embedded in the chest of a large female Nazi robot machine thingy and ya got something attractive... "Nurse, we've got another one. Call the men in white coats." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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