Quintus Sertorius Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Is there a way to turn off lens flare? It's my pet bugbear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ring, ding, ding, we have a winner! QS, your complaint was the 10,000th gripe post recorded on the forum. You win a, uh... Steve? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 There is a mod in CMSF reposity called "where's the sun" if I remeber correctly that takes out the lens flare. It should work for CMBN too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stirling Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Notwithstanding the asshats around here , I just uploaded a mod to GreenAsJade's Combat Mission Mods Warehouse that should help. Look for it under CMBN author 'Stirling'. This is the same one Vinnart referenced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Gee I kind of like it. I think it's add to the "you are there" feeling. YMMV of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Gee I kind of like it. I think it's add to the "you are there" feeling. YMMV of course. LOL I have to admit when I saw the thread title I thought, 'great, someone new discovered it and wants to say how realistic that gives a feel to the game' when in fact it's a complaint. I can see that it might annoy some, but I personally rather like it, for the same reason as Ultradave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stirling Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Well, for me it adds to the "my eyeball is a camera instead of an actual eyeball" feeling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Did someone say "flare"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingan Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have always wondered what is the point of lens flare effects. Our eyes don't suffer from lens flare. So that effect is telling us, you are not there, you just look trough a camera, or maybe you have bad quality glasses on... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Jones Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I have always wondered what is the point of lens flare effects. Our eyes don't suffer from lens flare. So that effect is telling us, you are not there, you just look trough a camera, or maybe you have bad quality glasses on... LOL! I love it. Maybe you could be there but have cataracs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I liked the flare in CMSF as it added to the "Lawrence of Arabia" heat atmosphere of the desert. I may remove it from European theatre games. As an aside, most video games have put back artificial lens flare as it's what people expect having seen it in so many movies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Schultz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Wow, you mean everyone else doesn't walk around with a director's monocular just to get that effect? Everything looks better with lens flare. --- 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hurry, can some one please do a cataracts mod? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Sertorius Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Heh...I had no idea my pet bugbear would cause so much consternation! Thanks for the replies though, especially Stirling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Anyone whose ever walked down the street in the direction of the low sun sitting on the horizon knows that glare is annoying. Otherwise it wouldn't be glare. Come wintertime & the bulge, the days are going to be short and the sun's going to always be low in the sky. Northern Europe sits at about the same latitude as the Canadian province of Newfoundland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 My "forgot to remove the lens cap" mod will be available from the Repository soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I have always wondered what is the point of lens flare effects. Our eyes don't suffer from lens flare. So that effect is telling us, you are not there, you just look trough a camera, or maybe you have bad quality glasses on... Nope. Guess again. The the human eye uses a refractive lens (the cornea), just like most camera lenses. And any image that is gathered through a refractive will exhibit lens flare under the right conditions. If you want proof, just focus on a point close to, but not directly at, a strong light source. You will probably see a "halo" around the light source, as well as possibly "rays" emanating out from the light source. Neither of these types visual artifacts are "real"; they're both caused by lens flare. Of course, lens flare from glass optics on a camera usually looks a little different than that which is part of our natural vision, and the lens flare in the game certainly more closely resembles a camera lens flare than the lens flare that the human eye is susceptible to. But don't fool yourself into thinking the human eye is some sort of perfect optical device. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatehunter Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I lived in The Netherlands for 7 years. I remember signs on the side on the road warning drivers to wear sunglasses when the sun was low. The visibility was terrible then. I was in command of ships then and spent my time staring at the horizon. Lens flare is real and very annoying. Ball caps were not for fashion but for blocking the sun. The worst time was when I was entering a westerly facing lock in Antwerp and the low sun was directly in line with the lock and also reflecting off the water in the lock. I slapped two pairs of sunglasses on to be able to conn the vessel into the lock. I don't like it in the game, but it is realistic. Imagine the troops on the ground staring in the direction of a low hanging ball of fire with dust, mist and other crap in the air. ****ty, but realistic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stirling Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I think some people are confusing lens flare with sun glare. I like sun glare in games. Lens flare is silly, at best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 My "forgot to remove the lens cap" mod will be available from the Repository soon. Very funny and much appreciated - well at least by me. PS Later Panthers came with a an ability to add filters to their gunsight for sun and for dust. I doubt the Allies were as advanced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I think some people are confusing lens flare with sun glare. I like sun glare in games. Lens flare is silly, at best. Right. Lens flare is an artifact caused by internal reflections and reflections between lens elements. The most dramatic effects are seen in older zoom lenses that may have half a dozen elements or more. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 But don't fool yourself into thinking the human eye is some sort of perfect optical device. I know... The point is, those effects we usually see in games have nothing to do with human vision. Our eyeballs are quite different from video camera lens. Some games actually render reduced contrast and halos when looking into sun, and that's more realistic. See this video of IL-2 Cliffs of Dover: http://youtu.be/2GzPi8aIIZU?t=3m39s I don't like it in the game, but it is realistic. Imagine the troops on the ground staring in the direction of a low hanging ball of fire with dust, mist and other crap in the air. Read above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Sertorius Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 My "forgot to remove the lens cap" mod will be available from the Repository soon. How about a "thumb over the lens" mod? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatehunter Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I know... The point is, those effects we usually see in games have nothing to do with human vision. Our eyeballs are quite different from video camera lens. Some games actually render reduced contrast and halos when looking into sun, and that's more realistic. See this video of IL-2 Cliffs of Dover: http://youtu.be/2GzPi8aIIZU?t=3m39s Read above. Mingan, Although this particular condition that I am about to define is usually attributed to Michael Enrys, it is also applicable to you in the above statements. You are correct! No sarcasm meant or implied. Lens flare is not a good definition or in-game effect for what should be sun glare. Sun glare is very real, but really I don't think, other than for esthetics, that it has much role in this game from our 'god' view of the battlefield. However, If it in game has effects on the individual LOS, then that is just awesome, and great programming by BF. Just think if a dark valley bottom and the nicely lit up ridge with a low sun. There are very much real world effects on LOS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatehunter Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 *Emrys, oops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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