Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 OR we are tired off arguing the same points over and over and over to cheap people that expect everything for free. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zotek Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hold on for a second, is this true? I have been lurking this forum for a while and i was on the fence about buying this great game, but this news is horrible. Do the developers truly charge for patches? If so, then i will take my money elsewhere. One would think that with such a niche market, they would treat their customers better and with more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Is this true? I've been looking into this game and thinking of buying it, but charging 10 $ for what's basically so much of a patch that you explicitly need to state 'It's not a patch' is... Questionable, at the least. I really don't want to see another 'Rise of Flight' thing, where I get one half of a good game and need to pay more to get the other half. It's not like there are more units, maps or really improvements in this 'Upgrade'. So, you created another account to back up your own argument? How Dorosh of you. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noplan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 cheap people that expect everything for free. Are you serious? Expect everything for free? Framerate patches? Camera jumps to groups functions ? This is worth 10 Euros? Not even EA and Ubisoft go that far, and they are known for putting spyware into their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 So, you created another account to back up your own argument? How Dorosh of you. Mord. Tells quite a lot about your expectations of the site staff if you seriously think that I can be logged in two different accounts from same IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Framerate patches? Camera jumps to groups functions ? This is worth 10 Euros? Moveable Waypoints Ability to assign special uniform types for select units types on a unit by unit basis. Target Armor Arc Command Expanded Floating Icon Categories "Fog of War" Floating Icons 2D Editor Map Overlay Auto-Assemble Road/Wall/Hedge Tool Camera Jump to Groups Target Briefly Command New Rendering Shaders Bump and Normal Mapping Improved Framerates Pausable Realtime TCP/IP Mode YEP. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Tells quite a lot about your expectations of the site staff if you seriously think that I can be logged in two different accounts from same IP. Uh huh...because logging out is really hard. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hi Mom ™ .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hey you senile old man. Here's a list of changes from a Sword of the Stars patch. Updates: - Improved AI diplomatic reasoning - Expanded AI tech research strategies. - Various tweaks and changes to AI rebellion behaviour. - numerous changes to AI Rebellion and its effect on gameplay. - Improved combat ship manoeuvring. - Adjustments to the Liir’s movement Fixes: - All currently known bugs fixed. Additions: - Chat between players in the game lobby and those playing is now possible. - Numerous GUI additions - New splash screens - Weapon tool tip displays weapon arcs in combat view. - Added news events. Free of charge Uh huh...because logging out is really hard. Mord. Mord, you are visibly upset. Go to bed before you embarrass yourself even more. You are old senile man you don't even know how websites work You start saying things that conflict what you have said earlier in this same thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 That list might be impressive if this were the Swords and Stars forum...Did you lose your way? Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 1.11 P A T C H c h a n g e s f o r f r e e NEW v1.11 GAME FEATURES Corrected crashes related to barbed wire units. Corrected a rare crash/hang problem in WeGo "blue bar" calculation. Corrected the occasional failure of "buddy aid" to retrieve useful ammo from fallen comrades, and accidentally to adopt their targeting orders. Corrected a problem that sometimes made fortifications too hard or too easy to spot. Panther "shot trap" on the lower turret mantlet (potentially) deflects shots downward into the hull as expected. British 95mm HEAT shell has correct amount of internal explosive (reduced from before). Corrected a problem in WeGo mode that sometimes caused vehicle passengers to rotate forward when they should not. TCP/IP "chat" text is easier to see clearly. Teams that are part of a squad properly retain their setup positions from the editor. SPW 250/10 and 251/9 halftrack loaders perform correctly when vehicle is buttoned. Wood bunkers are a bit tougher to knock out. Corrected a problem that sometimes gave on-map artillery the ability to shoot through intervening terrain. Corrected a problem that sometimes incorrectly restricted on-map artillery from firing smoke missions. Targeting a TRP directly using the mouse works correctly. Corrected a problem that occasionally caused a destroyed building to have "floating" rubble. Prone soldiers on a slope angle their bodies correctly. Bolt-action rifles properly show the spent casing ejected when the bolt is operated. Corrected an issue with command & control values being promptly updated when splitting a squad. Tiny explosions don't damage tank tracks so much. Corrected some AI issues that caused soldiers to move away from their teams, or caused the team to be "stuck" and not move when they should. In the editor, hedges allow co-placement of trees like bocage does. Light wounds to crew are slightly more likely to cause AFV bailout. Corrections made to Luftwaffe and Waffen SS camouflage helmets. Updated graphical shaders. Updated vehicle models (Commonwealth module): Wespe, PzII Lynx, Marder I, King Tiger, Jagdpanther, Cromwell, Churchill. On the Mac side, there were Mac specific graphical and stability fixes: Fixed "blockheads" problem. Increased performance significantly for most Macs. Fixed some bugs that were keeping Combat Mission from starting on some Macs. Improved compatibility with some integrated Mac video cards. Fixed "flickering icons" for most Macs. Fixed some Mac-specific crash bugs. N E W S T U F F 2.0 n o t f r e e Moveable Waypoints Ability to assign special uniform types for select units types on a unit by unit basis. Target Armor Arc Command Expanded Floating Icon Categories "Fog of War" Floating Icons 2D Editor Map Overlay Auto-Assemble Road/Wall/Hedge Tool Camera Jump to Groups Target Briefly Command New Rendering Shaders Bump and Normal Mapping Improved Framerates Pausable Realtime TCP/IP Mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 That list might be impressive if this were the Swords and Stars forum...Did you lose your way? No, it was to show how much more every other strategy game of any type (including turn based, mind you) have in their patches. That are also free, but obviously you were born without a spine to say anything sensible or trying to have opinion of anything for that matter. But that doesn't stop you from posting childish things. Speaking of which. Do you have Alzheimer's for any chance? That disease tends to reduce the mental state of adult people to the level of a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noplan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 But if they implemented these kind of minor changes to the game free of any charge, why did they go that far and charge 10 Euro for those petty functions that serve nothing really? I could understand it if a few new units and campaigns together and threw it into a DLC that is like 15 - 20 Euro. There is a difference between selling improvements that gets rid of some trouble you had during the game and polishes other areas that were implemented already and selling new content. This is exactly the marketing strategy that promotes and spreads piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagler Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Was a bit of a sly dog thing asking for a paid patch like. I dont mind because it made Normandy better than the piece of crap demo I played all those months ago, and it was on sale when I bought it 5 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hey Noplan, wanna bet how long Mord is going to hang on to his delusion that we are same person just because we aren't gullible retards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yeah, we know...anybody that disagrees with the genius that is you, is either; A.) A Fanboy. B.) Too stupid to see your mental superiority. C.) Not brave enough to whine for an hour about 10 bucks. D.) All of the above. WE GET IT! still makes you wrong...though. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 'Noplan' has no posts on this board beside this complaining. Not one. Isn't that.... odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noplan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hey Noplan, wanna bet how long Mord is going to hang on to his delusion that we are same person just because we aren't gullible retards? Well actually, while I dislike all this blind fandom, I find seeing the developer of a promising and innovative game getting greedy and really like all the other big money companies too worrying to laugh about. 'Noplan' has no posts on this board beside this complaining. Not one. Isn't that.... odd. If you've seen my first post, I was just getting into this game. Also, calling other people out instead of refuting their facts in order to defend one side is exactly what I call 'blind fandom' and has corrupted various forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 'Noplan' has no posts on this board beside this complaining. Not one. Isn't that.... odd. Downright Doroshian... Mord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMotion Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Is $10 too much money for an upgrade? Those who like playing CMBN probably think it's not. But if you're used to this kind of prices, maybe it is: <link removed> price was below 8 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Jaksteroid, What don't you get?Patch fix bad things-free Upgrade is new stuff-pay See spot run. Understand now. Please go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yeah, we know...anybody that disagrees with the genius that is you, is either; A.) A Fanboy. B.) Too stupid to see your mental superiority. C.) Not brave enough to whine for an hour about 10 bucks. D.) All of the above. WE GET IT! still makes you wrong...though. Mord. Oh wow Mord, you try to be edgy and I make a little jab at you, which is all it requires you to go full turtle mode. Why you still haven't tried to argue sensibly about why the developers are right to charge us money from every bite of a pizza that we already paid for? Are you afraid of something Mord? Well actually, while I dislike all this blind fandom, I find seeing the developer of a promising and innovative game getting greedy and really like all the other big money companies too worrying to laugh about. Well you know the saying: "Ignorance is bliss". They are just secretly afraid that their precious game isn't a perfect gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noplan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Upgrade is new stuff-pay But this is exactly what is wrong, it's not the kind of 'new stuff' you'd pay this price for, other companies charge below 10 Euro for entire expansion packs, not cosmetic changes that don't affect gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I realize I don't have to pay for it if I don't like it (and I sure won't pay a penny) And yet, here you are, two hours later...STILL whining...The upgrade price was worth it for that alone. Mord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaksteri Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 And yet, here you are, two hours later...STILL whining...I got my ten bucks worth. Mord. lol two hours later and still you haven't gotten enough of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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