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The 3.X CMBN upgrade doesn't offer upgraded unit models like RT, just some improved shader technology, right? For example, a Panther A looks a lot better in RT than vanilla CMBN. How much better does that tank look in CMBN 3.X, if at all? Thanks

The 3.X CMBN upgrade doesn't offer upgraded unit models like RT, just some improved shader technology, right? For example, a Panther A looks a lot better in RT than vanilla CMBN. How much better does that tank look in CMBN 3.X, if at all? Thanks

Thanks for the responses. Yes, it would make sense to copy a legacy version, even at 11 gigs, just to compare it with 3.1. I still enjoy CMSF and fun to move up the ladder to RT and see the obvious improvements in the engine over the years. I will probably wait until after Christmas, though. Need to get Black Sea first.

Forgive me for asking, but I don't post a lot. 1. To upgrade to 3.X, I don't have to re-install anything, just submit serials for game/modules? Also, must I remove Z folder first and then put it back. I would rather not upgrade than lose Aris and Juju's mods, particularly desktop general. 2. Do most people see a measurable increase in quality with the shaders? Basically, I'm hesitant to mess with what is already working well. Thanks!

NO, but closest would be Graviteam's Operation Star series of games.

Interesting info on the inner workings of Steam. Thank you. I know Matrix is not BFC, but let's see how they make out with their harder core titles.

Well, one of the CMANO devs says the game is doing very well on Steam on the $60 sale. As expected, there's been a huge "pricing" outcry from the same idiots who'll spend $50 for a ninja fighting game. When the price goes up to $80 it will be rougher. Matrix said they'd never go to Steam, and I'm sure we'll see BFC there in our lifetime - with all due respect. In fact, if CMANO, an extremely hardcore partly finished game is selling there, how could CMx2 possibly do poorly? Unlike, EA, if BFC makes more money, we get better games, and we get them quicker. We just don't want them to do too good on Steam and decide to retire on us. I have no hope of retiring ever, why should they

I agree completely and would be amazed if CMANO was a big hit on Steam. Very different games, and nothing compares to the immersion of CMx2 anyway. I bought CMANO on game day, and was duly impressed, as Harpoon has just looked like crap for too long. I like the in-game editor, too. I can't handle learning the game right now anyway, so will wait about a year until all the issues you mentioned are addressed. They should be fairly easy to fix once the devs find the time. I do expect the Steam CMANO forums to be pretty entertaining, though

Well, this whole Steam debate should be answered fairly soon. Matrix just put up Command Modern Air/Naval Operations on Steam. Not only will the price completely freak the Steamers out, but so will the complexity. That is one bad ass game in terms of learning curve. One way to measure its future success or failure will be to see if there is a big drop on the Steam forum discussions after a month or so. Most games that have died on Steam show little or no forum activity after a while. No big secret there.

A lot better than stock. I think BF relies on its modders a bit too much GTOS has got mm's for every hit, miss and partial penetration. So did ToW Kursk years ago.

Ah, I didn't consider PBEM, Doug. I don't play MP, but yes, that's a strong reason for many to upgrade. Also, let's try not to mock the poor. It gives our country a bad reputation.

There's no way I'm going to pay $10 to introduce the bugs I've been reading about. And who knows how mods will be affected? When they're all fixed and a new 3.0 module comes out for either game, I'll be first in line. Otherwise, that $20 for the upgrades goes toward the next CMRT module

I have CMRT and holding off on 3.0 for the others at the moment. Here is the question for me - will we be seeing CMBN and/or CMFI modules in the next year maybe that will require 3.0 upgrade? Reason is, I think it is a very good deal to just have to pay $5 for 3.0 upgrade when buying a new module. That's a very fair policy. So, any modules planned? Thanks!

No big deal really. At the moment, I feel spending $20 to upgrade CMBN and CFI to 3.0 based on the skimpy version log is not worth it. I enjoy them as they are and also have CMRT 3.0. I would rather put that money toward a new CMRT module. However, when a new, must-have module comes out for CMBN or CFI, I will consider the 3.0 upgrade. If that's how it works...

I'll pay a premium for "Black Sea" or whatever they call it - if they can get it out quicker. How's that?

So how is Matrix' World in Flames for $108 with no AI? Did anyone buy it?

CMBO on the Mac II si. I used to sneak into work on Saturdays to play it. I already had Flight Commander II. I think I saw an ad in CGW.

I haven't played through your campaigns yet, but I am in love with your helmet-style counters. I wish I could use them for the standard campaigns, too, with appropriate permissions. But I'm guessing that would take more than swapping a few files. Anyway, thanks for the brilliant artwork. Yours will be the first AoC and AoD campaigns I play to a finish.

I think we all trust BFC's judgement regarding Steam. Not that it's any of our business anyway But it is pretty darn interesting that Matrix has suddenly opened the floodgates. Distant Worlds and Pandora might do pretty good. But CC will be the better test. That and whether they hold the price for a year. I think CC will get some curiosity sales, but no big swell. We'll know the results based on the further actions (or inactions) by the publisher of those games. It's basically crazy - I see WI selling FW on Steam for $25, when it's also available at GG for $4.

Cross-platformers like Battlefleet make me nervous, but there is a dearth of naval games, barring Steam & Iron which is WWI and pretty hardcore. I just don't get the whole RTS tank rush crowd. The modus is always the same. Now, CoH turn-based, that might be nice. But CMx2 is nicest.

Thank you. Will be my first AoD since I put my computer back together.

S*** happens. XP died two weeks ago and lost everything (almost every game BF ever published) upgrading to Win7. But I have to admit, the license/activation thing caused no issues as I reinstalled and patched all those games. No CD's except CMSF. but did have all the exe's and mods backed up on external hard drive. ha!

Yes, SP scenarios will be pretty interesting now. Thank you, and for your website. Your screenshots look good, RSW. Think I need to retire my ati 4650 / XP machine

I am really missing Juju's UI - Desktop General Edition in the new game. I hope he's alive and well, anyway.

Ah, I was reading the wrong manual. I will read them all before asking obvious questions. Thanks for your answer, mj