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Pinetree got a reaction from Artkin in Combat Mission Cold War - British Army On the Rhine
If you need a source, try this: The British Army in Germany: An Organizational History 1947-2004. It's high level so doesn't got into tactical detail but will tell you what units were where at a certain time. Here's a snippet from 1981:
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Pinetree reacted to The_Capt in Combat Mission Cold War - British Army On the Rhine
Well that is a loaded question to be honest. Bil H will no doubt chime in but a few factors came into play as I recall:
- Resources. We can take a really good shot at BAOR and not cripple ourselves in development for years - along with the other BFC titles. The core team is pretty small and we were looking for a quick, but solid, follow up to the main game. Germany would have been a lot more work, as would any other NATO nations, and the French were just a non-starter. Those modules will take much longer, particularly in vehicle modelling and artwork. BAOR had a lot of new vehicle models but much more manageable in the timelines for a first DLC.
- Locale. The Northern Plain was actually where the most likely Soviet Main effort was going to fall. Hate to admit it but Fulda was a bit of a sideshow in the overall Soviet plan. It made sense game wise simply because the largest market for the game is the US, and we had a lot of details on this fight - US research is a dream as they put everything out there, Canadians are a nightmare. That said we really wanted to do the northern plains from the start and historically that is BAOR or the Germans.
- Expertise. We had experts on both UK and Canadian orbats right out the gate, which made research a lot easier. I joined in 1988 and had a lot of my old battlebox stuff to pull from and some old timers I still know from up the day. On the UK side we had similar expertise.
- Timeframe. Late 70s, early 80s is really the “tipping point” of the Cold War. It was when the doctrine and equipment of both sides was pretty balanced, each offsetting the others strengths and weaknesses. Before this you get the nuclear armies, which were just nuts. And after you get the western advantage leaning into overmatch and then we start to look a lot like CMSF or BS.
- Straight up cool factor. So how would the UK done against the Soviets? Canadians are fun because they mix European and US kit. You wanna know how a squadron of Leo’s would have done…well let’s find out. Not saying the other nations are not interesting but when you add everything up it just made more sense to do BAOR next and they would be fun to play.
As to “how will they play”…totally honest…no freakin idea. We also had no idea on the main game. It wasn’t until I played those first few scenarios while we were early in did we see that we were onto something. BFC doesn’t balance for gameplay or market. They literally plug in the data from research and then throw it at each other in game. The balance is almost entirely emergent. When we do up scenarios and campaigns there is always a level of balancing that goes on but this is macro stuff like force size and enablers. For CMCW we were amazed at how little balancing we had to do. I designed the campaigns and scenarios based on doctrine on both sides and basically how they would have gone into a fight with each other. The fact that these led to tightly balanced fights that require deep understanding of what each side can do was all pretty much emergent design.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Artkin in What would the fight for Berlin have looked like?
Thanks. I have to update it at some stage as there was a book released about the US Special Forces in Berlin recently.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Artkin in What would the fight for Berlin have looked like?
Here's a link to a link to a document for the Berlin forces I made a few years ago for Berlin'85.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Artkin in So how does a US Berlin infantry battallion differ from the standard?
Here's a document for a more realistic OOB for Berlin'85 based on my research that I made a couple of years ago, which will give you a broad strokes look at the Berlin forces.
stoss-revised.pdf
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Pinetree reacted to Vergeltungswaffe in Combat Mission Professional
So, you're saying there's a chance, Re: CW.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Vanir Ausf B in So how does a US Berlin infantry battallion differ from the standard?
Here's a document for a more realistic OOB for Berlin'85 based on my research that I made a couple of years ago, which will give you a broad strokes look at the Berlin forces.
stoss-revised.pdf
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Pinetree got a reaction from Sequoia in So how does a US Berlin infantry battallion differ from the standard?
Here's a document for a more realistic OOB for Berlin'85 based on my research that I made a couple of years ago, which will give you a broad strokes look at the Berlin forces.
stoss-revised.pdf
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Pinetree got a reaction from Splinty in The state of CMSF2
Man, some people get worked up over the smallest of things. BFC will announce a date; check in on that date, if the game's out, buy it; If it's not, check in again on the revised date. In the meantime do something else. Life goes on.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Josey Wales in The state of CMSF2
Man, some people get worked up over the smallest of things. BFC will announce a date; check in on that date, if the game's out, buy it; If it's not, check in again on the revised date. In the meantime do something else. Life goes on.
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Pinetree got a reaction from Howler in The state of CMSF2
Man, some people get worked up over the smallest of things. BFC will announce a date; check in on that date, if the game's out, buy it; If it's not, check in again on the revised date. In the meantime do something else. Life goes on.
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Pinetree reacted to Aragorn2002 in The state of CMSF2
You are both right actually. I should refrain and check in on a later date. My posts aren't helpful at all and don't change a thing. I will do everybody a favor and stop posting until the end of the year.
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Pinetree got a reaction from benpark in The state of CMSF2
Man, some people get worked up over the smallest of things. BFC will announce a date; check in on that date, if the game's out, buy it; If it's not, check in again on the revised date. In the meantime do something else. Life goes on.
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Pinetree got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in The state of CMSF2
Man, some people get worked up over the smallest of things. BFC will announce a date; check in on that date, if the game's out, buy it; If it's not, check in again on the revised date. In the meantime do something else. Life goes on.