gunnersman Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 This just in... Valve is putting out an IPO very soon. More to come... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 IPO? What's that? Intellectual Property Something? New franchise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Did anybody else catch what Steam/Valve did when BF knocked the prices down on the ToW series last year(October)? Yup, they had a big sale for the ToW series at the same time. I forget the exact prices, but I do recall the Steam sale was much cheaper than the prices here. I figure this isn't good for BF getting undercut like that, or any company for that matter. Steam is by far the cheapest way to buy games. In the past couple of years it's gotten bigger. Directodrive, Gamersgate, and even Amazon is getting in on matching the Steam sales. Watch, in less than 3 months time Shogun will be on sale for half off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 Good Old Games is a great website too. I got Freespace 2 (one of the greatest games of all time) for five bucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 IPO? What's that? Intellectual Property Something? New franchise? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_public_offering Yes, Freespace 2 is a classic, one my all time favs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfleek Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Steam is by far the cheapest way to buy games. In the past couple of years it's gotten bigger. Directodrive, Gamersgate, and even Amazon is getting in on matching the Steam sales. Watch, in less than 3 months time Shogun will be on sale for half off. Not sure what part of the world you're from, but if you buy non-discounted Steam games it is far more expensive than amazon selling physical copies (30-40 % cheaper on average). Steam only shines price-wise with discounts, which is fine as long you have patience, new games don't get discounted that quickly. Shogun 2 is 50 euros on Steam, 31 euros on Amazon. First proper Shogun 2 sale might be in half a year, and it might be discounted to ... 30 euros or something. Steam is not by far the cheapest way to buy games. Oh, and I believe Steam/Valve does not set game prices (except for their own of course). The publisher sets game prices, so apparently BF had a hand in undercutting their own sales it seems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I believe BFC was started to get away from being slaves to publishers. I know there are advantages from reaching a bigger audience, but I think every game they produce does better than the last one (in house games that is) so the method to their madness seems to have worked, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ya Europeans get ripped off by steam, but it's all good for us in the USA . A game will be $35 for us and 35 euros for them... pretty retarded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Not sure what part of the world you're from, but if you buy non-discounted Steam games it is far more expensive than amazon selling physical copies (30-40 % cheaper on average). Steam only shines price-wise with discounts, which is fine as long you have patience, new games don't get discounted that quickly. Shogun 2 is 50 euros on Steam, 31 euros on Amazon. First proper Shogun 2 sale might be in half a year, and it might be discounted to ... 30 euros or something. Steam is not by far the cheapest way to buy games. Oh, and I believe Steam/Valve does not set game prices (except for their own of course). The publisher sets game prices, so apparently BF had a hand in undercutting their own sales it seems. I'm of course talking about their sales and not the normal MSRP. But they have sales all week practically, their midweek sale is tues-thurs and weekend deal is fri-sun. But it doesn't take half a year for games to go for a decent sale. I think your missing some deals. Here's just a few examples: Mafia 2 - 75% off just four months post launch Just Cause 2 - 50% off four months later AvP - 33% off just one month later Go ahead and look into it more and you'll see for yourself. Find a game on Steam, look at the launch date, then click on 'related news' at bottom right to find it's first sale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfleek Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I'm of course talking about their sales and not the normal MSRP. But they have sales all week practically, their midweek sale is tues-thurs and weekend deal is fri-sun. But it doesn't take half a year for games to go for a decent sale. I think your missing some deals. Here's just a few examples: Mafia 2 - 75% off just four months post launch Just Cause 2 - 50% off four months later AvP - 33% off just one month later Go ahead and look into it more and you'll see for yourself. Find a game on Steam, look at the launch date, then click on 'related news' at bottom right to find it's first sale. You're right, it might be quicker than 6 months after all, few exceptions here and there. Was just looking at the history of ToW2, wondered if the 63 Metacritic score might have something to do with the disappointing returns from Steam sales. The Metascore is always very clearly posted, and poor scores do not help. Oh well, we've seemed to have wondered way of topic here, good to see that there are CM steam group, I've joined both :-). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yes there are definitely some incredible deals on there. Just gotta keep an eye out. A shame Paradox doesn't have their whole catalog on there. (though they have some, like Hearts of Iron) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Yay, I finally have a group worth joining on steam, no more loneliness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'Rogers Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 You're right, it might be quicker than 6 months after all, few exceptions here and there. It has a lot to do with when the game comes out. Steam sales really get pushed in the Thanksgiving/Christmas season. I think Dragon Age and Batman: Arkham Asylum got sales within two months of initial release on Steam. Steam is simple economics of scale. A video game has a huge fixed cost, but very little per unit cost (even lower with digital distribution). Thus games like Left for Dead (one of Valve's franchise game) which will attract huge sales, can make money even if the price drops below $20 pretty quickly. BFCs position is probably correct that Steam won't increase their sales, so no reason to cut them a share of revenue or to pursue discount pricing. For the poor people in Australia getting 15 kb/s, I've downloaded games from Steam at over 2 MB/s. I can't imagine putting up with speeds that slow. It is an awesome service if, like me, you are patient for sales. I never buy games anymore for more than $25 - $30 (CM:BN will be the first exception in a long time). Just put a game you want in your wish list and wait for it to pop up on sale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullified Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I have to say I easily understand both sides here. My steam collection has slowly been growing, the store is addicting and it solves a problem I have; I always lose CD's after a few years! BUT Steam is annoying, games are often buggy and things that work fine for a CD copy (mods etc.) always end up being a challenge to work with a Steam version or just don't work at all. Just a quick hint for people that don't know, if you are having internet troubles and want to play your steam games there is an offline mode. I have even LAN'ed a game I owned on steam with my brother by going in offline mode and booting it up and then him logging in and playing from my account in online mode. So there are workarounds but you have to live with the fact that convenience comes with a price. And that's Steam having a grip on YOUR games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hmmm, I haven't had any issues Nullified and I've got about 20 games on steam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfleek Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 BUT Steam is annoying, games are often buggy and things that work fine for a CD copy (mods etc.) always end up being a challenge to work with a Steam version or just don't work at all. I guess that the one issue with modding is the autoupdate feature of Steam (which can be turned off) and the awkward placement of the game directory. I have several modded games (Silent Hunter IV, EU Rome for example) on Steam and I've never accounted any issues though. And Steam games being more buggy than regular PC games? Any examples? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boche Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Steam is a gift from heaven, a more than happy user for more than 6 years. Its come such a long way since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ng cavscout Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I joined two steam groups, the CMBN group and the Battle Front Gamers group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Bump, for obvious reasons . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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