unsobill Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 i think it's more then 3 152HEAT shells tied together :eek: causing in vehicle violent overturn i wonder if CMx2 engine allows such outcome after IED explosions. sorry for last gory link - i figured this is an adult mature forum, sorry. Stryker survives violent IED [ June 07, 2007, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: unsobill ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I was wondering about physics in CMx2 as well, will vehicles have a physics model so they will be thrown around by violent explosions? Will tanks lurch back when firing there cannon, will jeeps do little jumps when they hit a bump at high speed and will strykers flip over when blown up by 3 152HEAT shells? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Whats the projection at the front of the Stryker, it's not something I've seen before and certainly isn't on the CM:SF models. Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Might be the engineer version, which is basically just a plow. Rune 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Its a device that prematurely detonates the IEDs (the shaped charge ones IIRC) ahead of the vehicle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 for some reason, i get the feeling that there wasn't a whole lot of actual damage to the stryker. It didn't blow to bits or have any visible damage, it seemed like the huge shockwave of the explosion just, flipped it over... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsobill Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 well theres a difference between AT piercing rounds explode or HEAT rounds explode - in this case damage to the vehicle would be mostly internal due the mass energy released. p.s just watched again video - damn thats a MASSIVE fuking explosion - much bigger even then some arty strikes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 unsobill, Ordinary HE shells make dandy IEDs, no HEAT ammo required! OTOH, a buried and suitably fuzed nose up HEAT round might be a nasty bottom attack device. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsobill Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 ye i must agree with you, this was just HE shell ;d i wonder how many IED options (HE, HEAT,APHV, APDS ) there will be in the game and will they have different effect ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAI Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I don't think APHV or APDS would make good IED, though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 This Stryker is in the same Brigade as me. It's a Stryker ATGM (you can tell by the Hammer head on top) Nobody was hurt, just a few shaken up Joe's thats all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikoyanPT Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Originally posted by LT Mike: Nobody was hurt, just a few shaken up Joe's thats all Excelent news, it is good to know that. Stay safe Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_56M Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Lt Mike, is this the same one that then drove back to the FOB under it's own power? Or was that the one that ran over a 500 lb bomb. None the less that is a lot of power to lift a 30 some odd vehicle up in the air. Yikes! just a few shaken up Joe'sThat would be what I call an understatement. More like shaken the @#$% up Joes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 LT Mike, what FOB are you on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Currently serving with Task Force 1-14 @ FOB Union III (where they hanged Saddam) Not sure how that Stryker recovered, but I do know of a few Strykers walking away pretty unscathed from some huge-ass IED's. My platoon has been fortunate enough to walk away from well over a dozen in the last year without any harm. Knock on wood! Just remember...These videos of Strykers getting hit on youtube and ogrish.com are very popular among the brigade. The video of the Stryker flipping is one that the Brigade Commander makes reference to, especially since there wasnt a single casualty among them. Just wish there was a way to let people know that although these videos look brutal, crew survivability in the Stryker is much higher than any other vehicle out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 "i get the feeling that there wasn't a whole lot of actual damage to the stryker." From other incidents it appears Stryker, by sheer chance, was giving an armor package so balanced that its usually able to withstand an explosion just to the point that the blast will flip it. It it had slightly lighter armor the hull would be breached, if it was slightly heavier the vehicle would crack before flipping. I heard somewhere Stryker's actually been getting better marks than Bradley in regard to withstanding IEDs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsobill Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 how about hearing from objective armor experts? will 3HE rounds able to pierce or deform 14.5 mm armor ? WWII armor experts also welcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Köhler Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Originally posted by unsobill: [QBwill 3HE rounds able to pierce or deform 14.5 mm armor ? WWII armor experts also welcome. [/QB]I dont think its that black&white anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Originally posted by Jussi Köhler: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by unsobill: [QBwill 3HE rounds able to pierce or deform 14.5 mm armor ? WWII armor experts also welcome. I dont think its that black&white anymore. [/QB]</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 "will 3HE rounds able to pierce or deform 14.5 mm armor' Stryker's got ceramic MEXAS tiles giving it the equivalent (I recall) of 56mm RHA. The soft steel backing plates for the tiles are more than 14.5mm thickness all by themselves. Also, slat cage vehicles can be seen with a sheet of stand-off plate running the length of the hull. One tough cookie! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Grunt Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 USMC LAVs have held up to IEDs surprizingly well too, even though they dont have the slat cages. I have seen many LAVs that look destroyed, but the damage is really just the wheels all tore up. In most cases, the Marines inside were all OK, if rattled and suffering minor injuries. VBIEDs tend to be a little worse, since they explode right next to vehicle and not below it. But better armor also means that the enemy will build bigger bombs. Awhile ago, 2/25 had a Amtrack that ran over an IED made of stacked AT mines. Shredded the vehicle and killed 25 I think. I remember one IED attack in Ramadi against a M113 that 1st Bde, 1st Inf Div had that was completely destroyed. All the soldiers were KIA and the biggest piece recovered was the ramp. Its amazing that so much ordnance is still available in Iraq. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Imperial Grunt, Sad to say, at least part of this is directly attributable to huge Iraqi ordnance stockpiles having been left unguarded for weeks following our overrunning of Iraq in OIF. And that was atop Saddam's own well-organized plans for an insurgency. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Grunt Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Yep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Yep. Was it 350 tons of ordnance that went missing from one bunker? I was just reading an article about it that was from some time back...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 From what I can tell, the only good news on all that missing ordnance is that no one seemed all that interested in manportable air defense missiles, which were seized in large numbers during the invasion. Remarkable, to say the least! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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