Treeburst155 Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Yep, I can buy it in Little Rock some 48 miles from my hillbilly shack. Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick614 Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Available in the Indianapolis area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Sue their butts off, Steve! Take 'em to the cleaners and send 'em home in a barrel! Woo-hoo! Attack, repeat, attack! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Pleasure Beast Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Sigh, looks like BFC isn't getting much of a rest. After they got the game out they had to work on the manuals, the patches, strategy guide issues and now this. C'mon, they deserve a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxx Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 good news: CMBB in mass retail stores bad news: cmbb illegally in mass retail stores worse news: another wave of young newbie whiners gonna flood this forum soon. "Where's the Power Upgrade ?" "What do mean, my troops has only one life ?" "Where's the Horse Mod ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I wonder how many new wargame enthusiasts this will produce? Some of the retail buyers will surely like it, even though the game won't be what they expected. Treeburst155 out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeForkSpoon Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Yup! It's out here in 94611 (Oakland, CA). Looks like it's gettin' snapped up, too. (Of course.) Emeryville Superstore Emeryville, CA 94608 Â (510) 450-9500 6 Miles In-Stock Downtown San Francisco Superstore San Francisco, CA 94102 Â (415) 391-9778 15 Miles Out-Of-Stock Concord Superstore Concord, CA 94520 Â (925) 681-0255 18 Miles Out-Of-Stock San Bruno Superstore San Bruno, CA 94066 Â (650) 244-9980 21 Miles Out-Of-Stock San Rafael Superstore San Rafael, CA 94901-3943 Â (415) 482-9199 23 Miles In-Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmorse Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Pacific NW Store Information Distance Availability Jantzen Beach Superstore Portland, OR 97217 Â (503) 240-4900 9 Miles In-Stock Portland Superstore Tigard, OR 97223 Â (503) 684-1662 17 Miles Out-Of-Stock Tacoma Superstore Tacoma, WA 98409-7709 Â (253) 473-0200 106 Miles In-Stock Tukwila Superstore Tukwila, WA 98188 Â (206) 575-2922 125 Miles In-Stock Bellevue Superstore Bellevue, WA 98004 Â (425) 452-9511 138 Miles In-Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I think the real problem will be with the patches. How is some American guy supposed to understand to download the european patches from a german website instead of the US patch? Expect lots of "patch doesn't work goddammit!!!" threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizee Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 how about sum illegal "original cm:bb available europewide though online ordering" oooooooooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunze Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Conceivably, if BFC is getting its cut of every copy CDV sells regardless, they might not be too upset about it. I mean, they don't have a U.S. retail-distribution deal more 'cause they haven't been offered a deal they're happy with than because they have some objection in principle to the game being on store shelves in the U.S., right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francky Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Here, in France, we are really disappointed with the CDV distribution : - The manuel is not complete (we have to print a lot of page from PDF files...) - Installation is quite a matter of chance because of the security keys... - We had to download the last patch from a german site (65Mo...), and I do not know if the french retailer worry about his customers.... Next time, I will prefer to pay more in order to buy an US version instead of buying a bad european version... Battlefront will have to take care a lot about this problem of european distribution. The hard core gamers do not pay any attention to these drawbacks, but think about the new players... Appui-Feu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Originally posted by laxx: good news: CMBB in mass retail stores bad news: cmbb illegally in mass retail stores worse news: another wave of young newbie whiners gonna flood this forum soon. "Where's the Power Upgrade ?" "What do mean, my troops has only one life ?" "Where's the Horse Mod ?"We were all young newbie whiners once, it's just some of us were doing it 30 years ago . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Available on Long Island, NY in the CompUSA stores in both Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 When CMBO came out it got great reviews,but when ever I went to Battlefront.com it was "sold out"! I got tired of trying to get the game and gave up after a few months!(my loss). Over the years I have bought hard to find games from "Chips And Bits" mail order, so when I was shopping at their website a month ago my jaw dropped when I saw CMBB! I ordered it ,and have been playing for weeks. For me, I'm glad I was able to purchase this great game from CDV. CDV also sent me the 65 meg patch on a CD from Germany! As far as retail stores having the game......more power to them, as long as Big Time Software gets the profits and the recognition it deserves,although as other post's have stated....the CM games are for hardcore wargamers ,and there will be disapointed buyers who thought they were getting another WW2 "Video" game! If CDV is doing this illegally then they should be prosecuted,but for guys like me who had problems getting CMBO in the first place, I was happy to finally be able to enjoy this great wargame,and get 2 of my buddies to purchase CMBB also! My wife got CMBO from Battlefront for my Christmas gift this year so......I'm a happy camper now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimguy Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 The only issue I have with it being on retail shelves is the fact that it will be sans printed manual. Having a manual included is a welcome change from the rest of the titles out there (see, e.g. Uncommon Valor - a great game that has gone through one $80 toner cartrage). With the current situation at BFC, how are these people to get a printed manual? I would loved to have been able to go to Fry's or CompUSA to get a copy to satisfy my instant gratification urges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 The CDV copy of CMBB has a 88 page manual that at least gets you started on playing. If you send in the cover of the CDV manual and 10 dollars CDV will send you the full manual. Kind of a "gyp" but it is an option?........another example of "Corporate America" I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kong Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 One more reason for me to dislike CompUSA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgdpzr Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Well, you know what the problem is? The game is SO DAMN GOOD we have stores (at least A store) just dying to sell it. So, BFC, I suppose it's your own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mPisi Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 CompUSA flunky #1: "Holy crap, look at all these searches we're getting for Combat Mission 2[sic] all of a sudden!!" CompUSA flunky #2: "Quick, order some more from Sneaky Pete the shadowy European smuggler!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrapin Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I don't think the comments concerning "Little Timmy gets CMBB and hates it" is really a Battlefront.com specific item. It happens for everyone, and it's just the business. No real harm, IMO. I have any number of games I got for Xmas that I don't play. I mean, you can pick up Falcon 4.0 at your local Best Buy, and I'm SURE that people have gotten this game from a parent who thought it was Ace Combat 5. "Dad, what is Doppler beam sharpening on an APG-68?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 Originally posted by Panzertruppe: The CDV copy of CMBB has a 88 page manual that at least gets you started on playing. If you send in the cover of the CDV manual and 10 dollars CDV will send you the full manual. Kind of a "gyp" but it is an option?........another example of "Corporate America" I guess.Corporate America? Corporate Germany is more like it. My concern is threefold. First, the aforementioned confusion about which patch to download, etc., etc. Second, BFC might sell more copies, but I would suspect their profit margin will be substantially smaller because it is sold through CDV rather than off the website. Third, I think mass-marketing the game is not necessarily a good idea because of it's niche appeal AND because "good game" + "mass market" = "certain to be pirated on the newsgroups". Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrapin Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I wonder if sales of CMBB will show up in the weekly NPD/CSFB national retailer sales numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Frunze, Conceivably, if BFC is getting its cut of every copy CDV sells regardless, they might not be too upset about it.Oh... trust me... we are upset. Every direct sale we lose to local retail is worth a LOT more than the royalties we get from a single CDV copy. So yeah, we get something for each illegal copy sold outside of Europe, but in theory we lose many times that for lack of a direct sale. Obviously not everybody buying a copy in CompUSA would buy from us directly, but 1:1 ratio is not the point. I mean, they don't have a U.S. retail-distribution deal more 'cause they haven't been offered a deal they're happy with than because they have some objection in principle to the game being on store shelves in the U.S., right? Nah, retail has been trying to get its mits on CM for years. We haven't done any such deal because it probably would be the death of us. Retail is a very dangerous place for someone like us to be. And if we wanted full coverage in North America we could sign an addendum to our contract with CDV in a day and make it so. But they know we would never do that so they have never asked for such a deal. Panzertruppe The CDV copy of CMBB has a 88 page manual that at least gets you started on playing. If you send in the cover of the CDV manual and 10 dollars CDV will send you the full manual. Kind of a "gyp" but it is an option?........another example of "Corporate America" I guess.Correction... CDV doesn't have full printed manuals. Only we do. The offer is that any European can purchase a full manual from us at COST. We make $0 from this deal since $10 covers cost of goods, order processing, shipping, and handling. If "Corporate America" was more like us the world would be a happier place BTW, to restate for the newbies... CDV had no choice but to produce the small manual. They have to put the product into a DVD box or retail won't touch it. And this is fast becoming the case here in the US. For 99.9% of the games out there this isn't a problem since their documentation is usually only 20-30 pages long. But for a few games, like Combat Mission, even an expanded DVD box is too small. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertruppe Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I'm just glad I have finally experiaced the "ultimate" wargame! My other games are all collecting dust now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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