Guest Sgt. Emren Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Best visual feature in CMBO IMHO was the shockwaves. Now they seem to be gone. Can we MOD them back on, or are they simply left out of the demo to limit the size?? First brought up in this thread: http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=000071 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I prefer how it is right now. Especially the "nuke-like" explosion of buildings IMO looked very cartoonish in CMBO. Same with arty. Although it's now a bit harder to spot light arty rounds. IMO the battle looks more realistic with the new explosions and tracers. I think it's personal preference. Some like it, some don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yeah, I loved the arty hit and house explosion shockwaves (glad the tank gun shockwave has been replaced though). I miss 'em too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I also miss the old exploding shell domes. Without them, it's very tough to tell whether my tanks are shooting HE accurately, unless I go down to Cam2 or 1 and sit right next to the target point. In the old way you could see the hit-points quite clearly from almost any Cam view. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 WHAT! No shockwaves?!? Alright, I gotta download this thing so's I kin see what ya'll did. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tondu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yes, I too hope that the shockwaves make it back into CMBB. They were really cool and I want them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Let's hound BTS to bring back the arty hit shockwaves!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallybob Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Me, too. The CMBO shockwaves are cool. And somehow satisfying when you see a building full of baddies take a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Saunders Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Ditto on bringing back the HE explosion shock "sphere". I don't miss the nuke building explosions. They got it in the way and were somewhat "over the top". But I think I want more visible explosions so I can see clearly what is going on from view 3 and up. If not, then at least some modder could take up the task. IMHO. -Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tondu Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I was hoping to find that they were just modded out, but after looking individually at each and every bitmap in CMBO, I oculdn't find any! (BTW, after downloading all those mods, I am VERY IMPRESSED with the artistic ability of all the modders. Their ability REALLY shines when they are looked at individually. GREAT job guys. Thanks to all the modders.) Are the shockwaves hard coded? Does anyone know for sure? Ya know, when I was watching some 75mm artillery fall in CMBB, I couldn't help have the feeling that something was missing. I mean that artillery was downright wimpy. Maybe it was done only for the DEMO to save on the download size and that they really are in the final product. Keep yer fingers crossed guys! Hey, everybody start chanting......"SHOCKWAVES........SHOCKWAVES.........SHOCKWAVES........SHOCKWAVES......" Begin banging anything metallic in time with the chanting. Let it build until it is a roar and don't stop until the shockwaves are back. [ September 02, 2002, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: Le Tondu ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ol one eye. Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yeah, here's another vote for bringing back the shockwaves! They make a huge differance, in Yelina I can barely see why all of my Russkies are routed, it looks like some one is tossing grenades where 81mm mortars should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Another vote for not bringing back the shockwaves, why because they look cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallybob Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 How about some compromise? Having seen many a 155mm Arty round or 105/120mm tank round impact, you can usually see one heck of a lot of dust kicked up. Not the shockwave (which I love) of CMBO. Dust. A lot of it depending upon the size of the round, and if it was airburst or impact. Love the demo, and have my credit card charged up and waiting to line up to buy CMBB! On the way!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warphead Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Do not change it. It simply does not look like that in reality. And there is no problem in spotting the point of impact of the bigger rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou2000 Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Keep the shockwaves.... No, changed my mind ....leave them out... But wait ... maybe .....Errr Lets have an option to turn them on/off ... works with other effects ....smoke etc ! Lou2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I vote against shockwaves (I also think they look cheesy), but will still love the game either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 I prefer NOT to have the shockwave effect, it just doesn't look like the real thing... The way it looks now is much better, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Shockwaves for HE explosions Shockwaves for buildings collapsing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 No shockwaves please. The CMBB effect is much preferred and appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 The shockwaves were hardcoded in CMBO. They were removed because they looked kinda cheesy (and caused issues with some video cards) and we much prefer the current look. We don't plan on bringing them back. It's about moving forward people. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Bates Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 CMBO: explosions are visible. CMBB: tanks are firing with pea shooters. We get an animated effect if a gun is knocked out, but that's it. If realism is such a concern than hardcode the damn trees into the map. I bet everyone would then say "I love it! It looks crap, but I'll get used to it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Sounds like what we need here is the shockwave effect added to CM:BB, but with a hotkey to toggle it on or off, depending on which side you think has the greener grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gautrek Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by Warphead-: Do not change it. It simply does not look like that in reality. And there is no problem in spotting the point of impact of the bigger rounds.Yes but when its all said and done its only a game. So when i am playing against somebody i want BIG explosions.i know how much this pisses me off when arty is coming in on my side. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bring them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Originally posted by Warphead-: Do not change it. It simply does not look like that in reality. And there is no problem in spotting the point of impact of the bigger rounds.I beg to differ. I have seen may war time docs of bombs and artillery producing quite visable shockwaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwazydog Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Vader, I have seen such shots, but only from vietman material and beyond. I have dozens of WW2 documentaries Ive bought over the past couple of years and have never seen such a shockwave. Im guessing the explosive filler in more modern ordanance has a faster reaction, and thus produced the pronounced shockwave. Personally I prefer it without. It was requested that we take them out due to lack of realism and they were making it hard in CMBO to take descent screen shots as the bubble looked ugly. Guys, as a suggestion give it a little time to get used to CMBB before trying to turn it back into CMBO. I initially had a lot of the same thoughts you guys are having as the new features were added, but once I got used to many of the new features I couldnt go back. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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